Camden fascist pub Gloucester Arms has most of their windows shot out!

[Steve_j]

From indymedia


Fascist pub The Gloucester Arms at 59 - 61 Leighton Road has been the centre of protests from anti racists following the decision by landlord John Coyne to let hardline neo nazis, the Jobbik Party hold meetings in the pub. The Jobbik Party are part of a European Alliance of Nationalist Movements drafted by the BNPs Nick Griffin. During the past 24 hrs most of the pubs windows have been shot out.Not sure of the ins and outs of this pub, nor the true extent of the jobbik link, but anyway this was posted on indymedia and might interest some here.

http://indymedia.org.uk/en/2010/01/445026.html

[ls]

Why did they choose Camden? Are they thick or what? I'm surprise this hasn't happened sooner, I mean I'd understand up the road in Barnet but Camden..

[ls]

Whoops you've got it wrong; The Gloucester Arms is in Kentish Town "Transit: Kentish Town (0.1 mi) National Rail Northern" ;)

There is a big difference, Kentish Town is much more white suburbanish, anyway it's still not surprising they got shit seeing as Camden is just a tiny bit down the road. :lol: I like the reviews on trustedplaces saying it's a shit pub anyway.

[Steve_j]

Yeah i am aware that the pub is in Kentish town, i was just repeating the title of the post on indymedia. Someone in the past has pointed that out to them (on indymedia) but they keep posting it as "camden"

Edit: Haaa haaa i checked the reviews you mentioned

[*Viva La Revolucion*]

Good! I hope the pub shuts down, or at least bans the fascists from holding meetings there. The landlord sounds like a bit of an idiot, tbh.


Why did they choose Camden? Are they thick or what? I'm surprise this hasn't happened sooner, I mean I'd understand up the road in Barnet but Camden..

I don't see why they wouldn't choose Camden? How is it so different to Barnet? I don't know London that well...

[Bitter Ashes]

The Jobbik Party seem to be a Hungarian Fascist party. What on earth were they doing outside of thier hallowed Hungary? :confused:
If they want to fawn over national borders then why're they meeting outside of them?

[Bitter Ashes]

http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2010/01/444583.html

Apparantly the landlord is a fan of "Skrewdriver" too...
Christ, who is this guy? Al Murray's long lost brother?

[Vladimir Innit Lenin]

Good! I hope the pub shuts down, or at least bans the fascists from holding meetings there. The landlord sounds like a bit of an idiot, tbh.



I don't see why they wouldn't choose Camden? How is it so different to Barnet? I don't know London that well...

Barnet: Traditionally right-wing Conservative, but also in recent years a hotbed of reactionary racism and those who might be sympathetic. Also, it is generally suburban and quite a 'sleepy' place, although it has its hotspots.

Camden: Indie kids and other left-liberal pretenders, but also full of real activists and more importantly those who join together within a strong anti-fascist current.

Essentially, Barnet is a regular greater london suburb, whereas you only have to walk down Camden High Street to understand how and why it's different. I <3 Camden:D

[No pasarán]

I argee with some of what el barnet says, but personel I think camden town is mostly an overpriced shitehole these days. Camden town is not the edgy, rougher place it was when I was a kid, but then again london has changed a lot since then. However camden as a borugh still has its highlights such as The Cock Tavern (now thats a proper republican pub!) and some good people. I'd rather be in Holloway or though Finsbury Park meself.

Anyways back on topic, the landlord of the pub is still irish born (not 'northern irish'
as the rumours are going) which makes me wonder why he'd want anything to do with the fash, but then again despite being an immigrant himself not all irish people share that view. The irish didn't exactly reach the enlightenment the like to think they did after (some of) the country gained its inderpendance?

If half of what is being said on indymedia is true looks like the pubs gonna put itself out of business at any rate wether or not its got the fash custom. Still every little effort should help?

[Patchd]

I argee with some of what el barnet says, but personel I think camden town is mostly an overpriced shitehole these days. Camden town is not the edgy, rougher place it was when I was a kid, but then again london has changed a lot since then. However camden as a borugh still has its highlights such as The Cock Tavern (now thats a proper republican pub!) and some good people. I'd rather be in Holloway or though Finsbury Park meself.
Let's face it, north of the river's just shit. :D


Anyways back on topic, the landlord of the pub is still irish born (not 'northern irish'
as the rumours are going) which makes me wonder why he'd want anything to do with the fash, but then again despite being an immigrant himself not all irish people share that view. The irish didn't exactly reach the enlightenment the like to think they did after (some of) the country gained its inderpendance?
Yeah, could be a nationalist, spurred on by his Catholicism (perhaps), a bit like the nationalists who went to fight in Spain on the side of Franco, or he could have been a protestant born in Ireland, there are still quite a number.

Still, good action.

[No pasarán]

I think its genralising to asume he's protestant. My dad is a prod born in ulster, but he's from a republican family. I could write a long list of protestant republicans but this topic has nothing to do with that.

I think its safer just to say the pub is run by a right wing wanker who alows a shower of facist c*nts to meet/drink in there. Which in my eyes means you deserve your windows put through.

[ls]

I argee with some of what el barnet says

:lol: I bet there is a cafe in barnet called that. It's assertively saying THE HAIRCUT.


but personel I think camden town is mostly an overpriced shitehole these days. Camden town is not the edgy, rougher place it was when I was a kid

Yes, Camden has become extremely gentrified. You only have to go around that 'gallery' place and then take a look at what it used to be like, you know the bit around Camden market late at night, yeah it's completely different now, all done up and shit, funnily enough there's still the very rough estates opposite that where you can see working-class people going round to the side pubs which are quieter.


but then again london has changed a lot since then. However camden as a borugh still has its highlights such as The Cock Tavern (now thats a proper republican pub!) and some good people. I'd rather be in Holloway or though Finsbury Park meself.

Hm, the cock tavern? Isn't that more towards kilburn and in hampstead or am I confused here.

I quite like Finsbury Park, although it can be incredibly dangerous in certain places. Holloway is quite a bit worse, although it has its nice points.. the bits more towards Camden are where it gets slightly better, it still isn't gentrifried around there though thankfully.


Anyways back on topic, the landlord of the pub is still irish born (not 'northern irish'
as the rumours are going) which makes me wonder why he'd want anything to do with the fash, but then again despite being an immigrant himself not all irish people share that view. The irish didn't exactly reach the enlightenment the like to think they did after (some of) the country gained its inderpendance?

If half of what is being said on indymedia is true looks like the pubs gonna put itself out of business at any rate wether or not its got the fash custom. Still every little effort should help?

Well, http://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=cache:2QRSAnKFqR0J:democracy.camden.gov.uk/alfresco/guestDownload/direct/workspace/SpacesStore/d4b35043-e4dd-11de-a631-9580b6e7d859/2009-11-25-minutes-Licensing%2520Panel%2520(C).pdf+john+coyne+camden&hl=en&sig=AHIEtbTdh2aMijmHa-volL4n5udwRtG4kw

Here we can see that the licensing panel sees "concerns" ;) there is an email at the bottom of it, perhaps collectively sending mail with "concerns" could help the next licensing application fail. I mean seriously, this guy has no place in the borough of Camden, all it will take is one incident with racism outside - which is likely, to prove that this is indeed a fascist little crap pub.

You can see the local Residents/Tenants associations voicing many concerns against the pub too, all good stuff really, he should not have a license.

[Lyev]

Barnet: Traditionally right-wing Conservative, but also in recent years a hotbed of reactionary racism and those who might be sympathetic. Also, it is generally suburban and quite a 'sleepy' place, although it has its hotspots.

Camden: Indie kids and other left-liberal pretenders, but also full of real activists and more importantly those who join together within a strong anti-fascist current.

Essentially, Barnet is a regular greater london suburb, whereas you only have to walk down Camden High Street to understand how and why it's different. I <3 Camden:D
I used to live in Barnet. From what I remember it was very multicultural. I didn't get an inkling of any tory crap when I was there, although it was a while ago. Oh and I think Dick Griffin (LOL!) lives there actually.

[ls]

I used to live in Barnet. From what I remember it was very multicultural. I didn't get an inkling of any tory crap when I was there, although it was a while ago. Oh and I think Dick Griffin (LOL!) lives there actually.

It is in some places, but mostly not. I lived in Finchley for a time around 1994 (when that bomb made national news outside the Jewish charity shop). Nick Griffin actually lives somewhere else in Wales now I think, in some rural countryhouse, because he's a posh fuck.

[Vladimir Innit Lenin]

I used to live in Barnet. From what I remember it was very multicultural. I didn't get an inkling of any tory crap when I was there, although it was a while ago. Oh and I think Dick Griffin (LOL!) lives there actually.

I went to school there for 7 years. I agree the centre of town is quite multicultural, and Friern and New Barnet, towards Southgate, Finchley etc are quite urban and what have you, but Arkley/Barnet area, the backroads are filled with ageing Tories. Ugh.

[Lyev]

Oh right, yeah, well it's just that one random memory that sticks in my head is driving past a kosher butchers on the way to school. Oh and I remember a good friend of mine came from a traditional, Indian family and his parents made lovely curry and indian sweets :) I was born in 1994 so that headline means nothing to me, I moved from Barnet (I was around the cockfosters area) when I was 9 I think.

[Vladimir Innit Lenin]

I used to play cricket for Cockfosters CC. Quite liked that area, nice and working class tbh. Friendly. Next to the station there was a greasy spoon, great fry up after training every week :)

[No pasarán]

To Is:

The Cock Tavern is in Somers town,which is still in the borough. The landlady is fierce but has a heart of gold. Great pub, though if I'm honest I mostly go there for celtic games- they have a lot of 'naughty' irish songs on the juke box. But the pub also has a long history of anti fascist and republican regulars. You might of been thinking of the Corrib Rest or the Kingdom? Both Kilburn pubs.

I've never had any trouble in Holloway or Finsbury, but then I've a fair bit of family round there and I used to work in Hollaway. But also I've a London-irish accent. That and I'm usualy wearin a arsenal or celtic scarf...