The only solution for israel is socialism !!

[LeninistKing]

THE ONLY SOLUTION FOR ISRAEL IS SOCIALISM !!



http://www.marxist.com/against-blanket-boycott-israel-working-class-solution.htm (http://www.marxist.com/against-blanket-boycott-israel-working-class-solution.htm)


There is no force on Earth other than the Israeli working class that can destroy Israeli imperialism. Unity between the Israeli proletariat and the Palestinian toilers and fallaheen (farmers) is the first necessity for carrying out a revolution that will end the bloodshed once and for all.

The movement in solidarity must be based on that unity. We reject the perspective of "Jews to the sea". The solution will not come without working class Israeli Jews; they will play the central role! This is why we reject the BDS campaign as counter-productive, and a campaign that strengthens bourgeois Zionism.

We reject any attempt to place blame on the Israeli workers for the crimes of their ruling class, no less than we reject attempts to blame the Palestinian masses for the blood spilt by Hamas and Fatah. The blame rests squarely on the shoulders of the Israeli and Palestinian bourgeoisies, and the capitalist classes in the US, Canada and the rest of the western world.

This is why the workers and youth in the advanced capitalist countries cannot stop at solidarity. This fight must be linked to the fight for socialism at home. Our imperialists profit from these wars, and the only solution is a movement to throw them out here as well. Capitalism worldwide must be overthrown.

The Jewish and the Palestinian peoples both have a strong socialist and revolutionary history. With help from the international workers’ and solidarity movement, they will be able to find the way back to these traditions and throw nationalism and fundamentalism on both sides to the trash pile.

Freed from fratricidal warfare and the meddling of imperialism, the Palestinian and Israeli working masses would be able to unite in a voluntary socialist union of both peoples as the first step towards a Socialist Federation of the Middle East: liberating their resources and using them for human need instead of for profit, and to rapidly develop in common and rise out of the collective misery.

Therefore, we appeal to all those who fight for the liberation of the Palestinian peoples to adopt the following course of action:


Abandon the blanket boycott of Israel, which pushes the Israeli workers into the arms of the imperialists.

Adopt a workers’ boycott that targets the Israeli state and representatives of the regime.

Promote strategies that build solidarity between Jewish and Arab workers.

Fight for socialism, both at home and in the Middle East.


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[Y-Love]

Do you know about Chada"sh -- the Israeli "Communist" Party?

יש אנשים הרבה בארץ שחושבים בדיוק כמוך - there's mad people in Israel thinking just like you... :cool:

[un_person]

It sounds like a good strategy, but at the same time didn't a boycott of South Africa help bring an end to apartheid there?

[Revy]

I wonder what the IMT's political strategy in Israel really is. Since in Britain they want to reclaim Labour, is it true they might want to "reclaim" Avoda (the Israeli Labor Party)?

[Y-Love]

What sucks about Avoda is that the Israeli Knesset system kind of stops them from doing anything (and let's not even talk about Chada"sh or Meima"d or any other awesome further-left parties) is that to do anything, parties have to form "coalitions" with other parties -- and this means you have to compromise.

SERIOUSLY compromise.

Which is why legislative things usually need something majorly grassroots to back them up in Israel, because working only "inside the Knesset/parliamentary system" can be futile sometimes...;)

[Conghaileach]

I completely support the BDS campaign. It's being supported by the Palestinian General Federation of Trade Unions and around 180 other Palestinian organisations, both in the "Occupied Territories" and within the state of Israel itself.

The piece above suggests that the IMT are more concerned with the bread and butter issues affecting Israeli workers than with the brutal occupation under which the Palestinians suffer.

[FreeFocus]

When the Israeli working class shows a modicum of sympathy for Arabs by not supporting, in huge majorities, every single war against them until Israelis face casualties and consequences, then we can talk about this and possibly consider the Israeli working class playing "the central role" in ending Israeli imperialism. For now, however, I'll place my faith and support in the Palestinian resistance, which fights imperialism.

[Revy]

Indeed, I also noticed the fact that they said Israeli workers will play "the central role" in defeating Israeli imperialism. They also use the "boycotts are anti-Semitic" idea. And of course, the ultra-left "socialism is the only solution to the conflict". Even the Bolsheviks knew of the immediate importance of overthrowing the Tsarist autocracy.

[~Spectre]

Comrades, I question the approach in the original post on the following basis:

-Any socialist coalition involving Palestinians would be hampered by the fact that the Palestinian working class is (I believe) virtually nonexistant due to the constant bombing and destruction of infrastructure, along with the choking harassment of checkpoints and lack of border movement (and indeed sanctions on what material can enter the occupied territories).


-The Israeli state propaganda apparatus seems to be several orders of magnitude larger than any sort of voice that socialist groups could muster in that region. The contradictions present in Israeli capitalism seem to be vastly overpowered and emptied by constant militarism that has the whole nation in a war fervor against a perceived "existential threat".

To wait for such a coalition to form may be an exercise in futility.

[Vladimir Innit Lenin]

The problem is that religious sectarianism is so entrenched in this part of the world, and in particular in the divide between the Israelis and Palestinians, that simply proposing a simple 'working class unity' solution will not make inroads.

Unfortunately, traditional Marxist theory must, in this instance, be flexible enough to adapt to a compromise solution in this part of the world. This is not anti-Socialist, but merely the recognition that any end to this conflict is a positive step forward, bar the end of conflict being replaced by an equally horrific situation, such as Fascism, religious fundamentalism or the like.