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Comrade_Stalin
16th January 2010, 18:23
The forum system tells me that I have to post again, or I well be deleted, so I’m going to post what I posted in my “about me” section. Note that there was not enough room in the location section to post what I would have liked to write.


Biography
Nothing that could go into the history books, or be made into a movie.

Location
In a country that gives you ever reason to die, but not one to live.

Interests
Fighting for a better world, not a perfect one. Also like anime and video games, mostly in the form of real time strategy games.

Occupation
A low level proletariat job, which is far below the masters I have in engineering

Political Statement
Marxist–Leninists, who believe that Communism is where we have public ownership, not private ones, or even no ownership, I don’t believe that Communism should look like Star trek, as it is a system closer to anarchism. I hate double standards, always have, and always will. This also means that I hate double standards that some on the left post, which makes us look like we believe there, should be a Bourgeois.

Gender
Male

By the way does any one know how I can add that I'm a Marxist–Leninists under my name?:)

CELMX
16th January 2010, 18:33
to get out of zero-post mode, post in somewhere other than chit-chat and introductions.

click customize profile
click edit your details
then type in whatever you want under Custom User Title

welcome:)

*Viva La Revolucion*
16th January 2010, 19:43
Hello comrade

I think it's obvious that you're a Marxist-Leninist since your username is ''Comrade Stalin''. :lol:


I don’t believe that Communism should look like Star trek, as it is a system closer to anarchism.

What do you mean by this?

革命者
16th January 2010, 20:12
Hi and welcome!

Why do you want to fight for a better world and not for a perfect one? That would count for me as something like anarchism, not communism. And I don't mean that as a disqualification of anarchism altogether.

Yes, and how is anarchism like Star Trek? Star Trek is just American imperialism set in space, as far as I can tell.


Scotty

Q
16th January 2010, 20:18
to get out of zero-post mode, post in somewhere other than chit-chat and introductions.
Emphasizing.


Political Statement
Marxist–Leninists, who believe that Communism is where we have public ownership, not private ones, or even no ownership, I don’t believe that Communism should look like Star trek, as it is a system closer to anarchism. I hate double standards, always have, and always will. This also means that I hate double standards that some on the left post, which makes us look like we believe there, should be a Bourgeois.

Besides the already stated question (how is Star Trek anarchist?) I miss a positive claim. You say how communism shouldn't look, but remain vague on how it should. Could you elaborate more?

Also, as Marxism-Leninism is a tag used by the Stalinists, I ask you why you feel you should identify with the counter-revolution in the USSR? Is the Soviet Union a role model for you?

Comrade_Stalin
16th January 2010, 21:53
First to answer the question of the better world vs. the perfect one.

Good questions. First, I believe that a perfect world would be utopia. The word for Utopia comes from Greek. It means no place (οὐ</SPAN>, "not", and τόπος, "place") and good or well place, (εὖ, "good" or "well", and τόπος, "place",) which in this case means perfect place. Which means that utopia has a double meaning for no place and good (perfect) place. With that said, I believe that I should fight for a better place not “perfect place” (no place).

Also a perfect world would have solved all of its problem. If you think about it, we will never reach it. Our parents before us had the problem of women right, and we have the problem of gay rights. Who know what our children’s’ problem will be, robot rights, clone rights, etc.

Now, to the question of Star Trek

First the United Federation of Planets, is defined as a post-capitalist liberal democracy and constitutional republic (from wiki). Post capitalist in this case is post scarcity which results in a world were money is not needed. No money, means no public or private ownership, which results in no ownership. No ownership is more like anarchism, as there is no government to enforce ownership.

Now I could of used Iain M. Banks ‘The Culture’, which would of not lead to this debate, but I think that less people know what I’m talking about.

And finally to answer Q questions.

First off, counter-revolution changes based on your point of view. From the point of view of a Marxist-Leninists, a Trotskyist is a counter-revolutionary.

The other part of the question was answered in the post itself.

Communism should be a place with state(public) ownership. I quess, I could say that am for a planned economy. Communism should not have double standards. The rest I’m working on. I still trying to figure out what I should believe in, when asked the question of national defense, and national security.

革命者
16th January 2010, 22:14
Historically, anarchism does respect personal property and communism aspires no private property and no State.

Comrade_Stalin
16th January 2010, 22:39
Historically, anarchism does respect personal property and communism aspires no private property and no State.

Anarchism, is not so much for private property, as they are against any form of goverment.

Goverment is need to protect private poperty(in the case of the USA) or to protect public poperty(in the case of the Soviet Union).

革命者
16th January 2010, 23:21
Anarchism, is not so much for private property, as they are against any form of goverment.

Goverment is need to protect private poperty(in the case of the USA) or to protect public poperty(in the case of the Soviet Union).I agree that the future State has to protect public property, but this State is a means to an end, not an end in itself. So I'd argue that Star Trek is more like anarchism, since the communist variety of it doesn't so much believe in property, but some others do (when it comes to the fruits of labour, for example). And I could protect my property without help of the State.

But frankly, I don't really think that analysing science fiction is particularly helpful in analysing different ideologies in such detail. At least I don't think Star Trek is a good means for that. But you might be able to convince me to think otherwise, since I don't know it too well.

I don't think by saying post-capitalist, they mean this in a somehow Marxist or anarchist way.

Q
16th January 2010, 23:45
Now, to the question of Star Trek

First the United Federation of Planets, is defined as a post-capitalist liberal democracy and constitutional republic (from wiki). Post capitalist in this case is post scarcity which results in a world were money is not needed. No money, means no public or private ownership, which results in no ownership. No ownership is more like anarchism, as there is no government to enforce ownership.
But communism is exactly that: a post-scarcity moneyless economy run to provide in the needs of society.


And finally to answer Q questions.

First off, counter-revolution changes based on your point of view. From the point of view of a Marxist-Leninists, a Trotskyist is a counter-revolutionary. That is not really an answer, you simply reverse the question I made. My question was why, in your point of view, do you view yourself as a Stalinist?


But frankly, I don't really think that analysing science fiction is particularly helpful in analysing different ideologies in such detail. At least I don't think Star Trek is a good means for that. But you might be able to convince me to think otherwise, since I don't know it too well.

Analyzing Star Trek in itself isn't very useful indeed. Here however it serves as a device to seek out possible points of confusion and to provide clarity (e.g. "What is communism?").

Comrade_Stalin
17th January 2010, 01:22
You both bring up got points about Star Trek, there is too much room for debate, as well as it being a poor model for analyzing different ideologies, so I’m going to drop it from my political statement about me.

Seems we had a miss understanding their Q. First off, I posted that answer like that, to point out that who is a counter-revolution changes with your point of view. Now let’s go on to your question about my point of view.

Why am I Marxist- Leninist(Stalinist), you ask.

Well the answer will shock you. When I at first moved to the left, I was lost. So I did what a good engineer would do, I modeled the system. I set goals, and then modeled which Tendency( as it is called here) would reach it. What I found was that the Marxist-Leninist Tendency would help me reach my goals, of a better world, not a perfect one, as I believe their can never be a perfect world.