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Eastside Revolt
12th June 2003, 21:20
I understand that when trying to live in the shadow States it is impossible to survive without a society based on conformity.

But do you think Che would have critisized today's Cuba?

I mean it does look rather suspect that the revolutionary's brother will likely take over after him.

kiwisocialist
13th June 2003, 02:32
Perhaps he would have, though what this proves is beyond me. He certainly wouldn't have approved of the way the 200 other countries in this world operate.

I think we should be concentrating our criticisms on the other 200 rather than expecting Cuba to be the communist utopia that people here believe it should be.

Eastside Revolt
13th June 2003, 22:26
'tis true

Nobody
15th June 2003, 03:13
But Che fought to make it a communsit utopia, I think he would be unhappy with how it turned out. /then again, he is very much reposible for running the econmy into the ground.

Pete
15th June 2003, 05:20
Ernesto was extremely smart. I doubt he would have thought that in less than 2 generation a Utopia could have been created, especially with America right there.

redstar2000
16th June 2003, 02:35
I mean it does look rather suspect that the revolutionary's brother will likely take over after him.

"Suspect" is too kind a word; try stupid!

Given the constraints under which Cuba must operate, the need for young, vigorous, and collective "leadership" is imperative.

Much more democratization within the context of the socialist revolution is likewise imperative.

In fact, those are the only chances Cuba really has. A "hereditary gerontocracy" (rule by old farts who hand their positions on to other old farts when they die) would be an absolute fucking disaster for Cuba.

We can only hope that Fidel Castro understands this...or will understand it before it's too late!

:cool:

Danton
24th June 2003, 15:12
Very easy to dismiss Raul's eventual appointment as simple nepotism. Raul is/was involved in many important decisions ever since Moncada. His massive popularity amongst the Union of young communists and his close high-ranking allies make him Fidel's natural successor regardless of their kinship - although Fidel's trust in his brother must also be considered an important factor. Raul's politics on a superficial level resemble Guevara's own ideals more closely than Fidel's, he certainly lacks his brothers charisma and is dogged by rumors of homosexuality and illegitamacy, they say his mother was the families chinese cook - hence La China as his detractors call him. Anyway I'm ramblin now but the fact remains that Fidel is healthy and has robust measures in place should he die, which I dont expect for at least a decade.




"CREEMOS EN FIDEL Y EN LA REVOLUCION

Red Comrade
25th June 2003, 02:13
I've heard different. Many people say that Raul is a dogmatic Stalinist.

TXsocialist
5th July 2003, 03:56
Could you cite that(please, no FOX)?

Raul is a great leader, no doubt.

Danton
9th July 2003, 11:34
Yes, name your sources.....







"Creemos en Fidel y en la revolucion"

TXsocialist
9th July 2003, 19:31
Raul wont last as long as Castro, though.