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Pirate turtle the 11th
11th January 2010, 21:46
The Islamist group Islam4UK, which planned a march through Wootton Bassett, and its "parent" organisation, al-Muhajiroun, are to be banned under new legislation outlawing the "glorification" of terrorism.
The home secretary, Alan Johnson, is expected to sign off a parliamentary order later this week proposing the ban, based on months of monitoring the output of websites and comments by senior figures.
The decision to proscribe the two organisations, which will have to be endorsed by parliament, will make it a criminal offence punishable by a prison term of up to 10 years to be a member of either organisation, or to attend or address their meetings. Al-Muhajiroun was founded by Omar Bakri Muhammad and Anjem Choudary, and has been operating in Britain since the mid-1980s.
The group became notorious for praising the September 11 attacks in 2001. Bakri was banned from Britain by the former home secretary Charles Clarke in August 2005, on the grounds that his presence in the country was "not conducive to the public good".
At the same time, the Home Office announced its intention to ban the group but it disappeared from view before relaunching itself in June last year.
Two offshoots – the Saviour sect and al-Ghurabaa – are already proscribed under the 2000 Terrorism Act.
Islam4UK has called off its planned march through Wootton Bassett, the Wiltshire market town that has come to symbolise the fatalities sustained by British forces in Afghanistan.
It said it had "successfully highlighted the plight of Muslims in Afghanistan globally".
The group said that if their organisation and al-Muhajiroun were banned by the government, "another platform with a new name will arise to continue to fulfil these divine objections until the sharia has been implemented".
Counter-terrorism legislation passed in 2006 is designed to automatically ban any "successor" organisations set up by proscribed groups.
Home Office lawyers were believed to be drawing up the necessary parliamentary order implementing the ban so that it can be debated by MPs within days. The move was being finalised today, as MPs heard evidence of tensions within government over the direction of the official programme aimed at preventing violent extremism.
Written evidence from the Local Government Association for a special Commons select committee held in a Birmingham mosque today, confirmed that tension between the Home Office's office of security and counter-terrorism and the Department of Communities and Local Government has been a problem at times.
The LGA said that at the heart of the disagreements has been the focus of the Prevent programme, with the communities secretary, John Denham, arguing that it should be part of the broader work on community cohesion and equalities. "Police and the security services will necessarily see things in a different perspective," said the LGA memo.
Its evidence said that the security services have moved away from developing a profile of a "typical extremist", to a more rounded analysis of potential risks and interventions.
Evidence from the Association of Chief Police Officers to the MPs' inquiry said that so far 228 young adults aged under 25 "who have been inspired by the al-Qaida ideology" have been referred to the Channel Project, which provides support to those believed to be vulnerable to radicalisation.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2010/jan/11/islam4uk-al-muhajiroun-ban-laws


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Seriously - fuck this shit

IrishWorker
11th January 2010, 22:26
The Islamist group Islam4UK, which planned a march through Wootton Bassett, and its "parent" organisation, al-Muhajiroun, are to be banned under new legislation outlawing the "glorification" of terrorism.
The home secretary, Alan Johnson, is expected to sign off a parliamentary order later this week proposing the ban, based on months of monitoring the output of websites and comments by senior figures.
The decision to proscribe the two organisations, which will have to be endorsed by parliament, will make it a criminal offence punishable by a prison term of up to 10 years to be a member of either organisation, or to attend or address their meetings. Al-Muhajiroun was founded by Omar Bakri Muhammad and Anjem Choudary, and has been operating in Britain since the mid-1980s.
The group became notorious for praising the September 11 attacks in 2001. Bakri was banned from Britain by the former home secretary Charles Clarke in August 2005, on the grounds that his presence in the country was "not conducive to the public good".
At the same time, the Home Office announced its intention to ban the group but it disappeared from view before relaunching itself in June last year.
Two offshoots – the Saviour sect and al-Ghurabaa – are already proscribed under the 2000 Terrorism Act.
Islam4UK has called off its planned march through Wootton Bassett, the Wiltshire market town that has come to symbolise the fatalities sustained by British forces in Afghanistan.
It said it had "successfully highlighted the plight of Muslims in Afghanistan globally".
The group said that if their organisation and al-Muhajiroun were banned by the government, "another platform with a new name will arise to continue to fulfil these divine objections until the sharia has been implemented".
Counter-terrorism legislation passed in 2006 is designed to automatically ban any "successor" organisations set up by proscribed groups.
Home Office lawyers were believed to be drawing up the necessary parliamentary order implementing the ban so that it can be debated by MPs within days. The move was being finalised today, as MPs heard evidence of tensions within government over the direction of the official programme aimed at preventing violent extremism.
Written evidence from the Local Government Association for a special Commons select committee held in a Birmingham mosque today, confirmed that tension between the Home Office's office of security and counter-terrorism and the Department of Communities and Local Government has been a problem at times.
The LGA said that at the heart of the disagreements has been the focus of the Prevent programme, with the communities secretary, John Denham, arguing that it should be part of the broader work on community cohesion and equalities. "Police and the security services will necessarily see things in a different perspective," said the LGA memo.
Its evidence said that the security services have moved away from developing a profile of a "typical extremist", to a more rounded analysis of potential risks and interventions.
Evidence from the Association of Chief Police Officers to the MPs' inquiry said that so far 228 young adults aged under 25 "who have been inspired by the al-Qaida ideology" have been referred to the Channel Project, which provides support to those believed to be vulnerable to radicalisation.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2010/jan/11/islam4uk-al-muhajiroun-ban-laws


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Seriously - fuck this shit

This is an attempt by the British Intel community to turn Islam4UK into a subversive "terrorist" group.
I believe the Intelligence community in the UK (MI5) are directly responsible for the establishment of this group Islam4UK and intend to use this group to gather Intel on suspected Islamist "terrorists" within the UK borders.
British Intel have a long history of covertly financing and supporting certain subversive groups as a source of intelligence to identify potential threats to UK national security.
Through out the last phase of armed Revolution in Ireland when the PIRA and the INLA waged a 30 year "long war" British Intel were responsible for a number of counter revolutionary "Republican" groups the IPLO being one of these groups which it used to wage war on other republicans and assassinate key political socialist thinkers.
Only MI5 can benefit from Islam4UK going under ground because when or if it dose become a proscribed organization under UK law it will then have the credibility needed within fundamentalist Islam to be introduced to more militant jihadist elements domestically and internationally.
It will then be labeled by the UK tabloid rags as the Al Qaeda of the UK Muslims will be further demonized in the press and by the BNP and UK Intel budgets will be flush with tax payer’s cash.
All the while “justifying” the UKs New Imperialist interests in Iraq Afghanistan and possibly Yemen telling the lie that they are occupying these sovereign nations under the guise of spreading “Democracy” and preventing international and domestic terrorism in the UK.


And all the while MI5 sitting back pulling the strings and playing the big Imperialist monopoly game.

Vladimir Innit Lenin
11th January 2010, 22:34
In all fairness, Choudhary and his clan are nasty pieces of work.

However, it is worrying that 'extremist groups' are being banned with alarming regularity.
I can see leftist groups being next, should there be some sort of catalyst - a spike in the fortunes of the left, for example.

AkirAmaruBolivar
11th January 2010, 22:45
ban evryone except communist party ml

punisa
12th January 2010, 00:25
In all fairness, Choudhary and his clan are nasty pieces of work.

However, it is worrying that 'extremist groups' are being banned with alarming regularity.
I can see leftist groups being next, should there be some sort of catalyst - a spike in the fortunes of the left, for example.

I wouldn't worry much about it. Islam is the new "communism" for them and we are old school to whom authorities don't actually pay too much attention ;)

ls
12th January 2010, 03:00
I wouldn't worry much about it. Islam is the new "communism" for them and we are old school to whom authorities don't actually pay too much attention ;)

Not really, they pay attention when we're a threat, trust me.

NaxalbariZindabad
12th January 2010, 04:46
^ That's true, but the left hasn't been a threat in imperialist countries since decades.

ls
12th January 2010, 05:32
^ That's true, but the left hasn't been a threat in imperialist countries since decades.

I don't think you know what you're talking about tbh.

The Ungovernable Farce
12th January 2010, 16:12
Yep, the authorities don't care about what the left in "imperialist countries" do. That's why they peacefully facilitated the G20 protests, taking care not to obstruct anyone as they went about their non-threatening business.

ls
13th January 2010, 07:24
Yep, the authorities don't care about what the left in "imperialist countries" do. That's why they peacefully facilitated the G20 protests, taking care not to obstruct anyone as they went about their non-threatening business.

In fairness, they armed themselves with teeny bin lid shields rather than the full-body length flameproof ones that link together (like they have in Greece, an 'imperialist country' where there certainly is something to worry about) and they only brought out the riot police in full black when they wanted to force a couple of people down south of the river, still with bin lid shields. :P

Granted, they used dogs a couple of times, but still.. in comparison to the miner's strike, where they had full body-length shields and smashed their way into innocent and pacifist supporter's homes, then attempted to bludgeon the shit out of them and their families.. it doesn't exactly seem like 'state terrorism'...... in many ways we were lucky they didn't come out in full force at the g20 protests. Then again, they are lucky we (workers generally in this country) aren't as forceful as we could be too. ;)