For men only, would you want to get pregnant?

[The Vegan Marxist]

As the world has been revealed by Mr. Lee Mingwei's pregnancy, & I'm not talking about the woman who had surgery that turned her into a man & then got pregnant, but I'm talking about a real, biologically-proven, man that is actually pregnant, we are now realizing that there are no boundaries any longer between men & women - that it is possible for men to become pregnant, & so this will become the choice of a man as well now, & not just a woman's. So, my question to you would be, for men of course, would you want to get pregnant & be able to go through, what is said to be, the beautiful process of creating life? If yes, why? If no, why?

http://www.malepregnancy.com/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmsdyWcpnvA&feature=player_embedded
Realize though, that this is the next step of bringing equality between men & women, & finally decreases the inequality through a large step.

[RedAnarchist]

I wouldn't want to, no.

Of course, if men had always been able to get pregnant, abortion would have been legalised centuries ago, and the drugs they give pregnant women would probably be much better.

[Pirate turtle the 11th]

No and No.

[The Vegan Marxist]

Again, provide reasons. The black & white idea of just saying no or yes without justifications is detrimental towards the understanding on why people think of things they think about or why they choose to do what they do.

[Vladimir Innit Lenin]

No. There is no 'inequality' between men and women just because they are different biologically. We must accept these biological differences, and not end up chasing some ridiculous notion of 'equality = similarity', since that is simply not true in this specific case.

[The Vegan Marxist]

But, despite the inevitable disability of bringing equality through biological differences, a man is now able to become pregnant, which brings an equal matter between men & women, beyond biological control.

[The Red Next Door]

No. I couldn't deal with that.

[revolution inaction]

So, my question to you would be, for men of course, would you want to get pregnant & be able to go through, what is said to be, the beautiful process of creating life? If yes, why? If no, why?

I don't think I would, i don't want children at the moment, and even if that changed being pregnant appears to be rather inconvenient.


As the world has been revealed by Mr. Lee Mingwei's pregnancy, & I'm not talking about the woman who had surgery that turned her into a man & then got pregnant, but I'm talking about a real, biologically-proven, man that is actually pregnant, we are now realizing that there are no boundaries any longer between men & women - that it is possible for men to become pregnant, & so this will become the choice of a man as well now, & not just a woman's.

http://www.malepregnancy.com/

Realize though, that this is the next step of bringing equality between men & women, & finally decreases the inequality through a large step.

this seems to be a art project, http://www.museumofhoaxes.com/birth/birth.html http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2008-03/31/content_7891932.htm


Curiously, the website has been up since 1999, and Lee is apparently still pregnant! Either the poor man has been in labor for nearly a decade (talk about a rough delivery!), or the story is a fake. Of course, Mr. Lee doesn't exist; the Web site is a hoax created as performance art by an artist named Virgil Wong.

[The Vegan Marxist]

I don't think I would, i don't want children at the moment, and even if that changed being pregnant appears to be rather inconvenient.



this seems to be a art project, http://www.museumofhoaxes.com/birth/birth.html http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2008-03/31/content_7891932.htm

Not a hoax whatsoever, & the site is of many topics, ranging from Men Pregnancy, Nanodocs, Genchoice, etc. So the idea that it's a hoax based on it being previewed through a site that's been going on since 1999 is illogical & the person didn't keep an open mind to it.

[revolution inaction]

Not a hoax whatsoever, & the site is of many topics, ranging from Men Pregnancy, Nanodocs, Genchoice, etc. So the idea that it's a hoax based on it being previewed through a site that's been going on since 1999 is illogical & the person didn't keep an open mind to it.

don't you think it unlikely that someone has been pregnant since 1999?

[counterblast]

& I'm not talking about the woman who had surgery that turned her into a man & then got pregnant


You mean the man that had surgery to have make his body biologically male?

[The Vegan Marxist]

don't you think it unlikely that someone has been pregnant since 1999?

the man has not been pregnant since 1999, if you watch the video, he clearly states he's 4 months in, so I seriously doubt that 1999 was 4 or 5 months ago.

[counterblast]

the man has not been pregnant since 1999, if you watch the video, he clearly states he's 4 months in, so I seriously doubt that 1999 was 4 or 5 months ago.

That site is a joke.


Here is the "live feed" of the ultrasound;

http://www.malepregnancy.com/images/ultrasound.gif

Its just an animated .gif image played on loop.

And also the weight/blood pressure of a fetus wouldn't fluctuate this much in a single day;

http://www.malepregnancy.com/images/vitals.gif

[Ovi]

No. Man and women can be equal in rights even with biological differences. There are black people, white people, chinese, south african, french, blonds, brunettes, tall, short, homosexuals, straight, bi, women, man, whatever. Celebrate equity by celebrating diversity. Trying to get man to be more like women is like painting the skin of some people to look like others so that they're no longer discriminated. Plus I seriously doubt a man can do better at bringing a child to birth better than a woman. I have doubts that it's even possible for a man to get pregnant and deliver a healthy child with all the technology today or in the near future. And really now, why do we need this in the first place?

[JazzRemington]

You know this is a hoax, right?

Edit: Someone beat me to it :(

[h0m0revolutionary]

I am male bodied, and wouldn't like to get pregnant right now, or at any other time in the future because I don't want children.

I think we need to be careful as well not to make the dizzy mistake of confusing sex and gender here. Many men already have the conventional biological features in which pregnancy most commonly occurs. However most of these are not cis-gendered men.

The OP example however is of a cis-gendered man being pregnant. But it's not the first man by any stretch, and the example of the FtM transition pregnancy that you refer to, wasn't the first of it's kind either.



Realize though, that this is the next step of bringing equality between men & women, & finally decreases the inequality through a large step.

Im not so sure about this though, i can see where you're coming from, but you're far too optimistic.

Without being reductionist, there are three concrete categorisations of sex; male, female and intersex. Conventionally females and female-bodied peoples are able to undergo gestation.. and now apparently male-bodied people can too.

I'm still failing to see how this is equality? For me liberation, the annulment of sexism, gender hierarchy and female subordination goes so much further than merely allowing men and male-bodied individuals to mirror the things females can do specifically. Men and male-bodied pregnancy isn't any significant step, as this board illustrates there is so little desire for male-pregnancy it's not going to make any marked impact.

For me one of the awful by-products of abortion is the way in which males can, and do, put the burden of child-rearing on the mother because it was she who make the choice not to abort. If male pregnancy was to become a phenomena that caught on, it could help remedy this, it could bring about some form of equality between the sexes.

But let's be real, there isn't going to be any takeup of this. Although I can see how it could prove a tool for greater female liberation and reproductive autonomy.

[revolution inaction]

the man has not been pregnant since 1999, if you watch the video, he clearly states he's 4 months in, so I seriously doubt that 1999 was 4 or 5 months ago.

no he hasn't been pregnant since 1999, because he's never been pregnet at all

here is a article from 2000 about his 'pregnancy' http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1P1-35995260.html

and a couple form 2001

http://www.rediff.com/search/2001/may/30mrmom.htm

http://www.metroactive.com/papers/cruz/01.17.01/wwweb-0103.html

and 2002
http://www.nigeriamasterweb.com/MalePregnancy.html

i could go on

http://news.google.co.uk/archivesearch?um=1&cf=all&ned=uk&hl=en&q=Mr.+Lee+Mingwei&cf=all

[The Vegan Marxist]

no he hasn't been pregnant since 1999, because he's never been pregnet at all

here is a article from 2000 about his 'pregnancy' http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1P1-35995260.html

and a couple form 2001

http://www.rediff.com/search/2001/may/30mrmom.htm

http://www.metroactive.com/papers/cruz/01.17.01/wwweb-0103.html

and 2002
http://www.nigeriamasterweb.com/MalePregnancy.html

i could go on

http://news.google.co.uk/archivesearch?um=1&cf=all&ned=uk&hl=en&q=Mr.+Lee+Mingwei&cf=all

hm...well, even if it was an artsy hoax, the idea is still interesting all in itself, & I'm sure some day we'll be seeing the first real male pregnant, until then, I guess man has a lot to think about.

[Glenn Beck]

No, I don't really want kids right now. I'm not in any position to really think about this because this is a hoax, male pregnancies are medically impossible, and I don't know what having the biology required to get pregnant is like, nor do I know what it's like to be socialized as someone with that biology. It kinda just never really came up, y'know?

[Drace]

How does a man with a penis, no vagina and no uterus become pregnant?

[Muzk]

How does a man with a penis, no vagina and no uterus become pregnant?

Radiation causes a mutation.

Anyways, I'd get pregnant, nothing wrong about it. It's nice to know a little revolutionary is growing inside of my bum.

[9]

Haha, what a joke.

[jake williams]

To actually answer the thread question - at some point probably, depending on what it would entail. It'd be cool in a pretty serious way, but the actual process of changing my body to the extent that it would be possible (if such a change were itself even possible) might not be worth it.

[JazzRemington]

How does a man with a penis, no vagina and no uterus become pregnant?

Ask Arnold Schwarzenegger.

[Dooga Aetrus Blackrazor]

It's a hoax. That doesn't eliminate the topic, though. I don't want kids. If I had kids, I'd adopt them. Secondly, I certainly wouldn't want to get pregnant. It's also going to be a guaranteed c-section for a man.

Instead of wanting male/female equality in pregnancy, why aren't we promoting test-tube babies? Shouldn't it be desirable to spare any human being the pain involved in pregnancy?

[Manifesto]

Ask Arnold Schwarzenegger.
DAMN YOU!! Beat me to it:( but still how would a mutation do that much to a man?

[rebelmouse]

one of things why I am happy that I am man, it is that I don't like to be pregnant:) especially I would not like to feel pain in moment of born of child.

["Red Scum"]

Enough unwanted children in the world without striving to create MORE. Adopt instead of pursuing such idiotic ideas.

[Chambered Word]

Originally Posted by Drace http://www.revleft.com/vb/revleft/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.revleft.com/vb/showthread.php?p=1645521#post1645521)
How does a man with a penis, no vagina and no uterus become pregnant?Radiation causes a mutation.

Sounds like the storyline of a really bad comic book.

[Le Libérer]

I wouldn't want to, no.

Of course, if men had always been able to get pregnant, abortion would have been legalised centuries ago, and the drugs they give pregnant women would probably be much better.
Gloria Steinem said it best, " If men could have babies, abortion would be a sacrement."

[Muzk]

Enough unwanted children in the world without striving to create MORE. Adopt instead of pursuing such idiotic ideas.


You can start telling us this once you've adopted your own.
I can't stand armchair revolutionaries :P

[counterblast]

You can start telling us this once you've adopted your own.
I can't stand armchair revolutionaries :P

Um, no. NOT having kids and NOT adopting kids is a perfectly valid choice to make.

I can respect someones choice to have/adopt kids, but lets be real -- its not a "revolutionary act" to do so.

[Muzk]

Um, no. NOT having kids and NOT adopting kids is a perfectly valid choice to make.

I can respect someones choice to have/adopt kids, but lets be real -- its not a "revolutionary act" to do so.


Yeah, sure, let all the white conservative scum have children, raise them into total ignorant republicans while we say "it's not revolutionary to have children" (it totally is)


It's time for Mao!


The world is yours, as well as ours, but in the last analysis, it is yours. You young people, full of vigor and vitality, are in the bloom of life, like the sun at eight or nine in the morning. Our hope is placed on you. The world belongs to you. China's future belongs to you.

[Pirate Utopian]

No, I dont like kids and giving birth sounds terrifying.

[Le Libérer]

No, I dont like kids and giving birth sounds terrifying.
It sure aint no walk in the park. I've had em and chose to do so.

[Quail]

I'm not a man, but I thought I'd post anyway.

I don't think that men being able to give birth would be an important step in gender equality. As long as we have equal rights (in society, not just in law) and equal opportunities, I see nothing wrong with women continuing to carry babies. For a start, their bodies are biologically well adapted to pregnancy and birth, and men's are not. Secondly, a woman can choose to terminate the pregnancy or to give the baby up for adoption if she doesn't want or can't care for the child, and she is the one that ultimately makes that decision (unless the father's name is on the birth certificate). She isn't forced to have and look after a child she doesn't want.

[newsocialism]

It can decrease female population, if it become common. If a strong male body can give a birth, males can choose the gender of a baby. Some people, unthinkingly may say it is like homosexuality, but any person with a complicated thinking ability will know that self-impregnation is nothing to do with homosexuality. Furthermore, if I used my own sperm to impregnate myself, that would feel different. Imagine, you are the only one, who gives all genes to another human-being. The baby is the only work of you.

[Lynx]

Hypothetically, yes. If given the choice, maybe. If pregnancy is the only way I can have children, then this is a rhetorical question.

[Patchd]

I listened to my mum telling me how painful it was giving birth, and how risky my birth was (to her life) ... so no chance in hell.

[smellincoffee]

Pregnancy doesn't sound appealing in the least to me.

[Chambered Word]

It can decrease female population, if it become common. If a strong male body can give a birth, males can choose the gender of a baby. Some people, unthinkingly may say it is like homosexuality, but any person with a complicated thinking ability will know that self-impregnation is nothing to do with homosexuality. Furthermore, if I used my own sperm to impregnate myself, that would feel different. Imagine, you are the only one, who gives all genes to another human-being. The baby is the only work of you.

It would be like cloning yourself. :unsure:

Seriously, I would not want to push something that big out of my arse.

[Raúl Duke]

Would you want to get pregnant?

Personally,
No

[FreeFocus]

It depends on the circumstances, and if I could minimize the pain associated with childbirth today. Diet, lifestyle, etc all affect the ability to give birth, and today it's more painful than it has to be because people aren't able to eat properly and their lives are filled with stress.

So my answer is possibly, but not likely.

[Kamerat]

No, i don't want to be pregnant. I hear there is a lot of pain in the end of a pregnancy when your giving birth. I don't even have that large of a penis that i can squeeze a 4,5 kilo, 56 cm length and 18 cm width baby through it.

This whole tread is chit chat material.

[RedAnarchist]

It would be like cloning yourself. :unsure:

Seriously, I would not want to push something that big out of my arse.

If a man got pregnant, a baby would have to be delivered via c-section only. No part of a male pelvis is large enough for a baby to fit through.

[RedAnarchist]

No, i don't want to be pregnant. I hear there is a lot of pain in the end of a pregnancy when your giving birth. I don't even have that large of a penis that i can squeeze a 4,5 kilo, 56 cm length and 18 cm width baby through it.

This whole tread is chit chat material.


No human has. I bet no animal whatsoever could fit an entire newborn baby through it's urethra.

Anyway, I agree with you that this is more Chit Chat material than anything.

[NecroCommie]

No human has. I bet no animal whatsoever could fit an entire newborn baby through it's urethra.
I dare you to try!

[gorillafuck]

No I would not like to be pregnant, giving birth is painful and sounds terrifying.

[Chambered Word]

Originally Posted by RedAnarchist
No human has. I bet no animal whatsoever could fit an entire newborn baby through it's urethra.

Someone could turn this into a brilliant horror film. :cool:

[Panda Tse Tung]

No, it's been proven men would bleed to death if they would have to bare a child. Or so i recall, i dont really wanna die for the sake of having a baby :p. But if this wouldn't be the case. And there's some sort of awkward exit for the child out of the body (Soi (s)he wont crawl out through my penis) i'd be down with it.

[NecroCommie]

Well, personally I don't want to have a child at all, no matter who it came through.