Communism or Anarchism?

[Faust]

Communism? or Anarchism? I just want to know what the proportions on Revleft are.

[Dr. Rosenpenis]

yawn

[Kléber]

99% of anarchists are communists and a good number of those will identify as socialists. I think you meant to ask "Marxism or Anarchism?" :P

[bcbm]

no thanks

[Comrade Anarchist]

anarchist b/c i believe in the individual not just the oppressive collective.

[Dr. Rosenpenis]

anarchist b/c i believe in the individual not just the oppressive collective.

boofuckinghoo

[Comrade B]

You should put in a neither for the Stalinists

EOOOOHHH! served *****es!

[FreeFocus]

You mean statism or anarchism?

[Nolan]

You mean statism or anarchism?

No, the OP means legitimate working-class ideology or petit-bourgeois sillyness.

[JazzRemington]

No, the OP means legitimate working-class ideology or petit-bourgeois sillyness.

Boring critique is boring.

But this type of poll has been done nearly to death.

[ZeroNowhere]

I'm fairly sure there aren't all that many Proudhonists around presently.

[Forward Union]

whatever?

[(A)narcho-Matt]

No, the OP means legitimate working-class ideology or petit-bourgeois sillyness.

Now i dont think marxism actually is petit-bourgeois sillyness, but it is easy to see why some might reach that conclusion....

[Yazman]

I choose both.

[bricolage]

Pikachu I choose you.

[Kléber]

If you're going to rename it anything, it should be "Marxism or Anarchism?" Virtually all the anarchists here are communists.


We do not after all differ with the anarchists on the question of the abolition of the state as the aim.
http://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1917/staterev/ch04.htm

[Glenn Beck]

Given that Communism already encompasses the abolition of the state and all forms of social oppression and exploitation, it's clearly a superior position to 'anarchy' because it is far more specific and well-elaborated, with a clear logical argument for how to get there through class struggle. Anarchy by contrast is many things to many people, and loosely defined as the absence of hierarchy. This definition in abstract and moral terms is not realistically actionable, and the closest anarchists have come to refining it into something useful is by redefining what they mean by anarchy into being identical with communism, and becoming themselves highly idiosyncratic communists. The strands of anarchism that have rejected Marxist political economy haven't had much success and in fact many if not most of them are censured on this site (primitivism, post-leftism, various forms of 'market anarchy').

[Angry Young Man]

You can often glean a poster's allegiances by looking at their info and seeing whether they are listed as anarchists, Trotskyists or redfascist lunatics

[Sam_b]

You could have checked the recent results for the chit-chat survey.

[Bilan]

Goethe.

[Kléber]

Given that Communism already encompasses the abolition of the state and all forms of social oppression and exploitation, it's clearly a superior position to 'anarchy' because it is far more specific and well-elaborated
By the same logic, given that the color blue is all-encompassing and refers to all things blue, the sky can not also be blue.

[F9]

No, the OP means legitimate working-class ideology or petit-bourgeois sillyness.

:lol::lol:Or he means dictaroship vs freedom..

haha with those answers when this things come up once every month:lol:

[Nolan]

Now i dont think marxism actually is petit-bourgeois sillyness, but it is easy to see why some might reach that conclusion....

So Statism is legit working class ideology? You Stalinist bastard.

[(A)narcho-Matt]

So Statism is legit working class ideology? You Stalinist bastard.

How is Anarchism statism??? Im not a marxist because marxism is inherently statist...

[Nolan]

Im not a marxist because marxism is inherently statist...

:rolleyes:

[Stand Your Ground]

I voted Anarchism, but I'd be happy with Marxism or Anarchism.