What is the future for mobile telephony?

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Google is expected to launch its own-brand phone on Tuesday. What next for mobile telephony?

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[Dimentio]

Probably 2D holograms.

[Yazman]

Its quite surprising how quickly Google has expanded into so many different businesses. Its own phone? I'm not even sure what to think about that.

Personally I have always been pretty concerned about Google as they do not seem to be too friendly towards privacy.

[bcbm]

long term? probably brain cancer for us all.


Personally I have always been pretty concerned about Google as they do not seem to be too friendly towards privacy.

many major search engines, social networking sites and phone companies have had their manuals for assisting law enforcement leaked (http://www.wombles.org.uk/article2010015806.php), and they pretty much all show anything but a commitment to privacy. the amount of data they record that can be harvested and released is pretty astonishing. it isn't just google, but pretty much every company connected to the communications infrastructure.

[Dr Mindbender]

Google is expected to launch its own-brand phone on Tuesday. What next for mobile telephony?

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I beleive devices like I phone and the way in which notebooks are shrinking show us the way.

Hopefully the technological divide between mobiles and computers will continue to shrink, until we have fully fledged handheld computers with the processing power and memory capacity of the current hi-end laptops.



long term? probably brain cancer for us all.
Hands free sets.

[Drace]

Its own OS (http://googlesystem.blogspot.com/2009/07/google-chrome-operating-system.html) too

[Luisrah]

long term? probably brain cancer for us all.

How about heart problems and infertility too?

I know of stories of people who started having disregulated heart beats (I don't know what it's called) because they put their cell phones on their shirt pocket (the pocket for pens and cigarettes).

Those waves are very energetic.
If you put two cell phones that are making a call on each other, with an egg between them, in 45 mins, the egg is cooked.
Imagine what happens to your brain, heart, and sperm when you have the telephone on your ear, shirt pocket, and pant pocket, respectively.

It makes me afraid to hold a phone

[bcbm]

Those waves are very energetic.
If you put two cell phones that are making a call on each other, with an egg between them, in 45 mins, the egg is cooked.
Imagine what happens to your brain, heart, and sperm when you have the telephone on your ear, shirt pocket, and pant pocket, respectively.


i keep mine in my back pocket... uh oh.

[jake williams]

How about heart problems and infertility too?

I know of stories of people who started having disregulated heart beats (I don't know what it's called) because they put their cell phones on their shirt pocket (the pocket for pens and cigarettes).

Those waves are very energetic.
If you put two cell phones that are making a call on each other, with an egg between them, in 45 mins, the egg is cooked.
Imagine what happens to your brain, heart, and sperm when you have the telephone on your ear, shirt pocket, and pant pocket, respectively.

It makes me afraid to hold a phone
Source?

[Quail]

I beleive devices like I phone and the way in which notebooks are shrinking show us the way.

Hopefully the technological divide between mobiles and computers will continue to shrink, until we have fully fledged handheld computers with the processing power and memory capacity of the current hi-end laptops.


I can see this happening too, but I also question the usefulness of having what is basically a mini-laptop for a phone. Surely the screen would be too small to read anything or to play a decent game on, and you wouldn't be able to have a CD/DVD drive (although that point may not actually be that important if something replaces CD-sized discs, which is probably quite likely). Having said that though, there are a lot of things mobile phones can already do that seem a bit pointless to me since all I really use it for is texts, calls, and the occasional photo if I don't have my camera on me.

[Luisrah]

Source?

You'll have to take my word for it. I don't remember where I saw it, but you can probably search on the net.

The first part came from my biology teacher, but the the egg one, I can't remember.

[rebelmouse]

the future of mobile phones is: integrated micro bugs (to spy all people) with some excuse like: "fight against terrorism".

[Sean]

I'd personally like something clunky and 80s tastics so we could all use a similar model even if we're talking skeleton coast.

[Dr Mindbender]

I can see this happening too, but I also question the usefulness of having what is basically a mini-laptop for a phone. Surely the screen would be too small to read anything or to play a decent game on, and you wouldn't be able to have a CD/DVD drive (although that point may not actually be that important if something replaces CD-sized discs, which is probably quite likely).

Downloads are probably going to be the future. We already have the first handheld game machine that runs software entirely on downloads, PSP go.

[Quail]

^ True, but even so, a phone-sized mini-laptop would not be my first choice of game console, my first choice of equipment to read/write things online or for anything else I would normally do on a computer. It would still make more sense to me to have a phone as a phone and something with a larger screen, proper keyboard, etc for everything else (computer-wise). Although that isn't to say that the technology won't be developed, or that there won't be a function for phones with the same capabilities as laptops.

[Dr Mindbender]

^ True, but even so, a phone-sized mini-laptop would not be my first choice of game console, my first choice of equipment to read/write things online or for anything else I would normally do on a computer. It would still make more sense to me to have a phone as a phone and something with a larger screen, proper keyboard, etc for everything else (computer-wise). Although that isn't to say that the technology won't be developed, or that there won't be a function for phones with the same capabilities as laptops.

I personally would love a single unit that serves as a mobile phone, web browser, office suite, movie player and gaming device in one. That way i wouldnt have to lug around a mobile and PSP when i go on holiday.Devices like n-gage (sob), i-phone and blackberry prove its feasible, all the better if they could give it an enlarged HD screen , >100GB of memory and a dual core processor.

and hey, if youre that desperate for a DVD/Blu-ray drive, thats what external drives and USB ports are for amirite?

[Quail]

^True but much as I like my handheld games I prefer being able to see things on a larger screen. I suppose you can always connect it to a TV. I also use my laptop for writing, so I'd want a full-sized keyboard, USB mouse and again, a decent-sized screen to make reading stuff easier. It just depends on people's preferences I suppose and what they're using a computer for, but personally I really don't have much use for a phone that does everything. I also never said that it wasn't feasible to develop a hand-held phone that did everything, but I don't think it would always be the best and most useful piece of equipment for every task that it would be capable of.

Off-topic, what the hell happened to the n-gage?

[Dr Mindbender]

^True but much as I like my handheld games I prefer being able to see things on a larger screen. I suppose you can always connect it to a TV. I also use my laptop for writing, so I'd want a full-sized keyboard, USB mouse and again, a decent-sized screen to make reading stuff easier. It just depends on people's preferences I suppose and what they're using a computer for, but personally I really don't have much use for a phone that does everything. I also never said that it wasn't feasible to develop a hand-held phone that did everything, but I don't think it would always be the best and most useful piece of equipment for every task that it would be capable of.
As for the issue regarding the screen size, theres ways and means. I saw on television a new digital camera has been developed that can project a moving image onto a much larger surface. Its possible to maximise screen size through clever design- clamshell, sliding parts etc. Besides, you have to admit, the screen size of I-phone and PSP is pretty generous for machines of their size so i think a machine that closely matches those ergonomics would do the job. I can see sometime in the future one piece shades coming out that plugs into the device that covers the users proliferal vision and which could also act as the screen. It could be very interesting if you implement augmented reality, allowing you to replace mouse/keys with motion sensors. If you want a keyboard, as blackberry and other models show, its perfectly feasible to have a QWERTY keyboard around that scale. Mouse might be another issue, but until my star trek visor is available i'd be happy with a touch sensitive screen and stylus and/or PSP style analog stick.


Off-topic, what the hell happened to the n-gage?
The n-gage failed in Europe and America so was taken off the shelves, but due to some quirk in the market i read that it was a big hit in China and India where it is still commercially available.

[Quail]

As for the issue regarding the screen size, theres ways and means. I saw on television a new digital camera has been developed that can project a moving image onto a much larger surface.
That sounds like an interesting idea, although it assumes you have a suitable place to project it and you might have to be careful to keep a steady hand.


Its possible to maximise screen size through clever design- clamshell, sliding parts etc. Besides, you have to admit, the screen size of I-phone and PSP is pretty generous for machines of their size so i think a machine that closely matches those ergonomics would do the job.

The screen sizes are generous, but if I (personally) was reading an article or writing, I would prefer a larger screen. But that could just be me.

I can see sometime in the future one piece shades coming out that plugs into the device that covers the users proliferal vision and which could also act as the screen. It could be very interesting if you implement augmented reality, allowing you to replace mouse/keys with motion sensors.
There are benefits to being able to see the world around you as well as the screen! Although I'm sure there would be ways around that. It might be a while before phones can do this, although using motion sensors and a projector perhaps they could project a motion sensor keyboard onto a table in front of them, although I'm not sure whether it would be able to sense motion in 3 dimensions.

If you want a keyboard, as blackberry and other models show, its perfectly feasible to have a QWERTY keyboard around that scale. Mouse might be another issue, but until my star trek visor is available i'd be happy with a touch sensitive screen and stylus and/or PSP style analog stick.

I don't know about you, but I wouldn't want to sit down and type out thousands of words with my thumbs on a fiddly little keyboard. I can see that leading to RSI.

The main issue is that a phone by itself might need extra pieces of equipment in your suggestions, such as the shades, or some of its functionality might require being in a suitable location. While there's nothing wrong with developing the extra technology (since you never know what other applications it could have), I don't quite see the point in having tiny phone-laptops (laptop-phones?) which wouldn't be as useful as actual laptops for a lot of tasks.

If smaller laptops were what people really wanted, there would be no market for the bigger ones because people wouldn't buy them, but clearly people do. In the end, the only reason phones have so many gadgets on them is because the phone companies can go, "Look at how fantastic this phone is, it can do x, y and z!" and persuade people that they need the latest one.

[Dooga Aetrus Blackrazor]

I "hope" the cell phone industry becomes dominated by services like Skype. It's amazing that we (myself included) are paying for telephone service. I don't know about the telephone service itself, although I suspect it is cheap to maintain. But there are other methods of transmitting voice data that are cost efficient and would save people hundreds of dollars a month on phone bills.

Also, although there may be some truth to the cancer things, it's largely exaggerated. I remember a friend of mine did a project on the issue back in the day. And don't worry. There are 1000 more things that are more likely to give you cancer than your cellphone.

[AkirAmaruBolivar]

now we can watch porn as well on our phones as we can on our laptops
BRAVOOO:rolleyes: