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cyu
4th January 2010, 19:52
Excerpts from http://online.wsj.com/article/SB126238854939012923.html

In recent research, University of Washington economists Yoram Bauman and Elaina Rose found that economics majors were less likely to donate money to charity than students who majored in other fields. After majors in other fields took an introductory economics course, their propensity to give also fell.

Economists long have studied "free riders," the sort of people who take more than their fair share of something when circumstances permit. Think of the person who orders the most expensive entre at a restaurant, knowing that the check will be shared equally among companions.

University of Wisconsin sociologists Gerald Marwell and Ruth Ames, in a 1981 paper, found that in experiments, economics students showed a much higher propensity to free ride than other students.

The professors also ran an experiment in which participating Cornell undergraduate students could get a higher payoff if they agreed to have their partner get less. Economics majors were more likely to go for the higher payoff, they found.

"When my wife buys a car, she seems to care what color it is," he says. "I always tell her, don't care about the color." He initially wanted a gray 2007 Mercury Grand Marquis, but a black one cost about $100 less. He got black.

Milton Friedman, the late Nobel laureate, routinely returned reporters' calls collect.

her economist father kept the thermostat so low that her mother threatened at one point to take the family to a motel. "My father gave in because it would have been more expensive," she says.

RadioRaheem84
4th January 2010, 22:46
This is so true! I was an Econ major in college and me and my gf used to fight over how cheap I was. It has nothing to do with necessarily being evil, it had more to do with a hatred for irrationality. This translated into a disdain for irrational purchases based on subjective feelings like personal tastes, i.e. color of a car.

I am still a bit like this though. It's this constant quest to not be duped by marketing techniques you know are geared toward taking advantage of irrational consumers.

cyu
5th January 2010, 20:30
This translated into a disdain for irrational purchases based on subjective feelings like personal tastes, i.e. color of a car.


The problem with certain definitions of "irrationality" is, is it really irrational? Should ignoring the color of a car be considered more rational than ignoring the appearance of a potential girlfriend? If it's OK to put more effort into pursuing a girl you think is prettier, would it also not make more sense to put more effort into pursuing a car you think is "prettier"?

Agnapostate
5th January 2010, 21:41
I have to laugh at Friedman's strategy, though; that's awesome. :laugh:

Vladimir Innit Lenin
6th January 2010, 20:34
Or maybe Economics students are enlightened enough to see that expanding charity is not the best way to help the poor, exploited and needy;)

cyu
6th January 2010, 20:41
I have to laugh at Friedman's strategy, though; that's awesome.

Depends on the reporter and what kind of relationship you want with them I think. If the reporter is rich or can be reimbursed by a wealthy corporation, they'd probably just think you're weird. If the reporter is independent and doesn't have a whole lot of money, and they know you are already wealthy, then that's going to start you off with a bad taste in their mouth.

If the independent reporter was going to be antagonistic anyway, it doesn't matter, but if you wanted the reporter to put your comments in a positive light, I wouldn't say that's a very good strategy.

cyu
6th January 2010, 20:43
Or maybe Economics students are enlightened enough to see that expanding charity is not the best way to help the poor, exploited and needy

I don't like charity as much as expropriation either, however, that still doesn't explain why they're more likely to be free riders or more likely than others to try to gain at their partners' expense...

Vladimir Innit Lenin
6th January 2010, 20:43
I was more being tongue in cheek, my dear comrade.

Agnapostate
7th January 2010, 00:14
Yeah, I wasn't being particularly serious either. ;)


Or maybe Economics students are enlightened enough to see that expanding charity is not the best way to help the poor, exploited and needy;)

True enough; my greatest economics professor was a Christian communist.

cyu
7th January 2010, 20:01
Nuts, my joke-dar must be on the fritz again :D