Hangover remedies..

[Le Libérer]

Got one that works for you? Any suggestions appreciated. Thanks. And ouch.

[Rjevan]

Well, many people swear on the Bible that pickled herring and pickled gherkin do wonders but since my stomach wouldn't survive this in the morning I go for salt sticks or those little salty pretzels together with some kefir, works great for me! One of my friends claims that drinking milk is the best you can do but I never tired it.

[Lord Testicles]

I have found only two things that cure a hangover, weed and hair of the dog.

[Dr Mindbender]

You probably dont have it over there, but Lucozade (especially tropical flavour) used to work well for me.

I'm guessing Gatorade is the nearest US equivalent.

Apart from that get a nice, greasy breakfast with loads of fluid.

[An archist]

Take a shower, take a shit, eat something sugary, drink lots of fruit juice and watch silly movies for the rest of the day.

[Tyrlop]

Well, many people swear on the Bible that pickled herring and pickled gherkin do wonders but since my stomach wouldn't survive this in the morning I go for salt sticks or those little salty pretzels together with some kefir, works great for me! One of my friends claims that drinking milk is the best you can do but I never tired it.


I have found only two things that cure a hangover, weed and hair of the dog.


You probably dont have it over there, but Lucozade (especially tropical flavour) used to work well for me.

I'm guessing Gatorade is the nearest US equivalent.

Apart from that get a nice, greasy breakfast with loads of fluid.
yes drink cream(English is such a wierd language it allows words as cream) drink alot of cream, cream it tastes good,

Johannisbeer-Pudding mit Sahne /// rødgrød med fløde //

pudín con crema de grosella //currant pudding with cream
tastes extremely good:wub: best cure is to not drink water with alcohol, it would be better to select an item that doesn't contain alcohol.
(if you don't know what alcohol is then here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alchohol) how to see if your soda doesn't got alcohol you just look at the can or bottle if there is a symbol that say example 14% acohol or 40%
this way you prevent hangover/carpenters the following day.

[Sasha]

yup gathorade against the headpain (dehydration) and greasy food

[Dr. Rosenpenis]

water hydrates just as good as, if not better than gatorade

[BOZG]

Well, many people swear on the Bible that pickled herring and pickled gherkin do wonders but since my stomach wouldn't survive this in the morning I go for salt sticks or those little salty pretzels together with some kefir, works great for me! One of my friends claims that drinking milk is the best you can do but I never tired it.

I'd debate the milk thing for most people. Milk on top of acidic drinks tends never to be good.

[BOZG]

And in fairness, the best cure is sleep.

[LeninBalls]

Or a nice big greasy fry up (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fry_up) packed with salt and a 2 litre bottle of water, works everytime for me.

[Autodidakt]

It is best to drink plenty of water between alcoholic drinks. A hangover is the result of severe dehydration and therefore the best remedy is indeed water. Eating meat or other heavier sorts of foods and grains will also help because they will take in some of the alcohol that your liver the won't have to. I would also stay away from things like gatorade because they might cause problems all their own.

[mykittyhasaboner]

weed, followed by food, followed by rest/sleep.

[FreeFocus]

Not drinking seems to do the job..:marx:

[Sam_b]

A glass bottle of Irn Bru. Yes, i'm a national stereotype.

[ellipsis]

weed and fried chicken aren't working so well right now. not in pain but not on my game either.

[Luisrah]

Not drinking seems to do the job..:marx:

rep if i could

Don't drink at all in the first place, or be cautious, and you will 100% surely be 100% free of hangovers

[Le Libérer]

A male friend of mine suggested a bloody mary and lots of sex.

[Sasha]

he was volunteering i guess :lol:

[Ravachol]

Take a shower, take a shit, eat something sugary, drink lots of fruit juice and watch silly movies for the rest of the day.

this man speaks the truth.

The best thing to do, imo, is to eat some really greasy stuff (fries, burgers, god knows what) just before going to bed and drinking lots of water and fruit juice just after waking up. Also, avoid intensive activities like, say, early demos and such :rolleyes:

[the last donut of the night]

water hydrates just as good as, if not better than gatorade

true. i find that lots of cold water help

[Le Libérer]

he was volunteering i guess :lol:
And it worked.

[9]

Not drinking seems to do the job..:marx:


rep if i could

Don't drink at all in the first place, or be cautious, and you will 100% surely be 100% free of hangovers

Oh yes! More patronizing responses, please. :rolleyes:
Alternately, you could GTFO of the thread.


A male friend of mine suggested a bloody mary and lots of sex.

Haha, but the question is how to remedy them, not what causes them.

Anyway, besides advil and drinking lots of water, I don't know that there's much you can do. Most of the other suggestions sound more like bubbie mayses than anything that would actually work (beyond a placebo effect, anyway), but whatever floats your boat.

[Sugar Hill Kevis]

Haha, but the question is how to remedy them, not what causes them.

The hair of the dog that bit you.

[MarxSchmarx]

A male friend of mine suggested a bloody mary and lots of sex.

Bloody mary indeed. Cognac is also valuable.

[FreeFocus]

Oh yes! More patronizing responses, please. :rolleyes:
Alternately, you could GTFO of the thread.

Or, better yet, you could do something productive with your day, something to better yourself or help other people..or at the very least, respect your body a little bit more.

owait lol, rock-n-rollin' all nite is what it's about. silly me. nvm!

[Floyce White]

File this for next time.

Sit on the pot, hot shower, sip a little water, brush your teeth, put on sunglasses, then go out and walk for about half an hour. Move your arms around, stretch, twist, get your system working. Keep sipping water until your stomach can handle Tylenol and coffee.

It's the dorm-to-classroom solution, but it works as well as anything else I've tried.

[9]

Or, better yet, you could do something productive with your day, something to better yourself or help other people..or at the very least, respect your body a little bit more.

owait lol, rock-n-rollin' all nite is what it's about. silly me. nvm!

Alternatively, you could quit acting like a sanctimonious fuck and accept that people are going to enjoy themselves regardless of you harping on them about it behind a computer screen. I work hard, and like most people who do, I like to enjoy myself when I have the chance. If you don't like that, if you disagree with what I choose to do in my freetime, don't do it and don't concern yourself with it. Simple as.

[FreeFocus]

Alternatively, you could quit acting like a sanctimonious fuck and accept that people are going to enjoy themselves regardless of you harping on them about it behind a computer screen. I work hard, and like most people who do, I like to enjoy myself when I have the chance. If you don't like that, if you disagree with what I choose to do in my freetime, don't do it and don't concern yourself with it. Simple as.

:lol:

Someone's getting very defensive. If you don't like my posts, I could also say "don't concern yourself with it. Simple as." If you didn't say GTFO out of the thread, I probably wouldn't have replied again, and if I had it wouldn't have been in the manner that I did.

[Il Medico]

I've never had a hangover (Well, not a bad one anyways), but I'd imagine that a pill I tke for migraines would work well. You can buy it in the drug store possibly and if not most herbal stores carry it. It's called Feverfew, it gets rid of migraines so I would think it could deal with a headache from a hangover.

[Hiero]

Sleep, that is it.

If you do wake up before the hang over has finished, shower, then the best pain killer you have (codeine) and try to go back to sleep.

[Dr. Rosenpenis]

I drink a good deal of water before going to sleep after a night of serious drinking and that way I avoid hangovers
But even when I drink in excess and don't drink water I don't get bad hangovers
nothing that comes close to a migraine

[Tyrlop]

I've never had a hangover (Well, not a bad one anyways), but I'd imagine that a pill I tke for migraines would work well. You can buy it in the drug store possibly and if not most herbal stores carry it. It's called Feverfew, it gets rid of migraines so I would think it could deal with a headache from a hangover.
bad suggestion doctor. don't take pills unless you're going to die.

[An archist]

this man speaks the truth.

The best thing to do, imo, is to eat some really greasy stuff (fries, burgers, god knows what) just before going to bed and drinking lots of water and fruit juice just after waking up. Also, avoid intensive activities like, say, early demos and such :rolleyes:
Hahaha, I remember the great idea people had in Gent to have a party the night before we'd have a demo against prisons at 14h, you couldn't even hear the megaphone because the guy had such a hangover:D

[Pogue]

I hear the best remedy is to learn to handle your alcohol!!!! AMIRITE!?!?!

I was playing football in the park after getting back form my new years party, everyone else needs to take a leaf from my book.

[BOZG]

Sleep, that is it.

If you do wake up before the hang over has finished, shower, then the best pain killer you have (codeine) and try to go back to sleep.

I always find it's better to wake up before the hangover finishes and then go back to sleep rather than sleep right through it, which I find rarely works or it takes half the day with it. My hangover's usually disappeared even if I only go back to sleep for an hour or two.

Sometimes I start taking headache tablets before I finish drinking, seems to work or it might be just having a placebo affect on me. I'm not sure how those pills actually work.

[Saorsa]

I hear the best remedy is to learn to handle your alcohol!!!! AMIRITE!?!?!

dick

[Il Medico]

bad suggestion doctor. don't take pills unless you're going to die.
Feverfew is an herb, so it isn't affected by taking it with alcohol. It just comes in conveint pill form.

Also, if anyone here takes the Doctor's advice, take before or while you are drinking as it works better as a preventive. If you already have a hangover take 2-3 as 1 take a while to combat a headache you already have.

Also do not drive or operate heavy machinery. :p

[Luisrah]

Oh yes! More patronizing responses, please. :rolleyes:
Alternately, you could GTFO of the thread.


Oh yes! Swear more and be more angry at us for suggesting you to be healthier, please. :rolleyes:
Alternatively, you could be less rude and actually thank people for suggesting ways of you being healthier, go through less hangovers, and live longer.


I hear the best remedy is to learn to handle your alcohol!!!! AMIRITE!?!?!

I was playing football in the park after getting back form my new years party, everyone else needs to take a leaf from my book.

Now there's an intelligent person.

[Bandito]

Lots of water before going to bed and at least 8 hours of sleep.
Seems to work 100%, and it is the only "cure" that actually has scientific support.

[Il Medico]

Oh yes! Swear more and be more angry at us for suggesting you to be healthier, please. :rolleyes:
Alternatively, you could be less rude and actually thank people for suggesting ways of you being healthier, go through less hangovers, and live longer.

Please, please, please,please, pretty please with a cherry on top, shut up. No offense mate but I don't care to hear your self righteous moralism, I get enough of that shit from Christian in the conservative hell hole that I live in. Do you actually think that Apikoros or anyone else here doesn't, drink, smoke, and do drug full well knowing it isn't "healthy"? If you don't want to drink, then more power to ya. But to be honest, no one gives a shit what you think they should do with their lives. If someone ask your opinion, give it. Otherwise please for the love of Jesus, Mary,Joseph, and all other false icons, shut up.
/rant.

[FreeFocus]

Alternatively, you could be less rude and actually thank people for suggesting ways of you being healthier, go through less hangovers, and live longer.

Nah, it's kind of funny to see so-called revolutionaries disrespect their bodies, compromise their health, and turn around and complain about capitalism and being broke after spending their whole paycheck getting "crunk."

[piet11111]

lots of water and 2 headache pills before going to bed and then sleep in as long as you can.

[Nwoye]

yeah drink water before you go to bed.

[9]

Nah, it's kind of funny to see so-called revolutionaries disrespect their bodies, compromise their health, and turn around and complain about capitalism and being broke after spending their whole paycheck getting "crunk."

I only get "crunk" on other peoples' paychecks.



True story.

[Honggweilo]

1 liter of water before going to bed

[BobKKKindle$]

Nah, it's kind of funny to see so-called revolutionaries disrespect their bodies, compromise their health, and turn around and complain about capitalism and being broke after spending their whole paycheck getting "crunk."

What a load of nonsense. Yes, abusing alcohol over an extended period of time can damage your health. However, getting moderately drunk every now and again because you're celebrating a special occasion like NYE or a birthday does not mean that you are disrespecting your body or that you are in danger of compromising your health. Also, something being unhealthy doesn't mean that it's bad or that people shouldn't do it. Nor are people going to stop getting drunk after the abolition of capitalism. There are also a lot of ways you can get drunk without incurring large expenses - I for one spent the first part of this year's NYE at a friend's place where each person brought a bottle of something, so that by the time I met up with a bunch of other friends at a fairly expensive bar, I didn't need to drink anything else.

In total I spent less than the equivalent of 15 pounds throughout the entire night and most of that was getting to and from various venues in taxis. I'm sure I wasn't the only one who managed to spend a relatively small sum and even if some people did spend a lot more it's frankly pathetic that you see yourself as having the right to criticize people for what they've chosen to do with their own hard-earned money.

To the OP, I'm sure you've resolved your problem by now, but yeah, drinking water is the best.

[Vanguard1917]

http://www.englishexercises.org/makeagame/my_documents/my_pictures/2009/may/1Z3_209.jpg

[FreeFocus]

Also, something being unhealthy doesn't mean that it's bad or that people shouldn't do it.

What a fucking stupid comment. Seriously. Pathetic.

[BobKKKindle$]

What a fucking stupid comment. Seriously. Pathetic.

It's not stupid at all. You can't get out of life alive, after all, so why go through it avoiding anything that harms you, or has the potential to case harm? Some of the funnest things you can do are unhealthy but in the interests of having fun and a wide range of interesting experiences, we should do them anyway. You're just a puritanical fuck who presumably thinks that most if not all drugs should be banned and that no-one should ever do contact sports, or BDSM.

[Vanguard1917]

What a fucking stupid comment. Seriously. Pathetic.

Not really.

[Dr Mindbender]

In total I spent less than the equivalent of 15 pounds.

Thats my weeks food shop right there.

If you want to get drunk mega-cheaply, white cider is the way to go.

[BobKKKindle$]

Thats my weeks food shop right there.

If you want to get drunk mega-cheaply, white cider is the way to go.

Well sure, I wouldn't ever spend that much on alcohol or nights out on a weekly basis. But for something like NYE I don't think it's too bad, given how much alcohol costs in bars and pubs.

Also on the point of doing things that are unhealthy, by FF's logic people shouldn't live in quite a few cities, because by walking outside you're breathing in automobile fumes that you could avoid by living in the countryside.

[Dr Mindbender]

Also on the point of doing things that are unhealthy, by FF's logic people shouldn't live in quite a few cities, because by walking outside you're breathing in automobile fumes that you could avoid by living in the countryside.

In most peoples cases its an unavoidable evil given the price of rural living and the cost of commuting to most workplaces.

[BobKKKindle$]

In most peoples cases its an unavoidable evil given the price of rural living and the cost of commuting to most workplaces.

Er, yeah, I'm not actually suggesting that people should live in the countryside. I was simply pointing out that if we accept FF's view that people should never do anything that has the potential to cause harm to themselves, then it would be logical to go and live in the countryside, on the grounds that simply living in a city and walking outside each day you run the risk of breathing in automobile fumes, which are harmful, at least in highly congested areas. We can also assume that he thinks that no-one should ever do something like BDSM because it can cause physical harm, in spite of the fact that some people find it highly enjoyable, and involves two or more people consenting to do something. What he is essentially suggesting is a system of liberties more restricted than those we enjoy under bourgeois democracy, which already seeks to restrict the scope of individual expression and consensual activity.

[Dr Mindbender]

some leftists would argue that intoxicants are as if not more effective than religion at dulling organisation and class sentiment.

I believe its the case that in pre revolutionary russia the bolsheviks burnt down the vodka bars because the workers kept getting pissed instead of organising.

[FreeFocus]

It's not stupid at all. You can't get out of life alive, after all, so why go through it avoiding anything that harms you, or has the potential to case harm? Some of the funnest things you can do are unhealthy but in the interests of having fun and a wide range of interesting experiences, we should do them anyway. You're just a puritanical fuck who presumably thinks that most if not all drugs should be banned and that no-one should ever do contact sports, or BDSM.

I don't think drugs should be banned, people should have access to them if they so desire. Doesn't mean you're not a fucking idiot, but it's within your rights.

On a side note, I have no problem with contact sports. In fact, I support contact sports fully - my favorite sport is mixed martial arts, the sport which has the most contact. BDSM, however, is silly to me. Still, it's within one's rights.

Moreover, actually, I hate cities. If people are able to move away from them, I fully support that. It's also considerably cheaper in a lot of places to move outside of cities. Cities are consistently shown in surveys to be unhappy places. They tend to be polluted, congested, and expensive.

I do understand why some people call leftists "loonies," it's because of ridiculous stuff like upholding this do-whatever-whenever-you-think-of-it type of lifestyle. Wanna have fun? Go get blasted, get high, act like a fucking buffoon with no self-respect. Get drunk, have all the sex you want. It's simply irresponsible. People should be free to do this, yes, but to uphold this and encourage it is pathetic. I don't respect people like this, and I'm sure you don't respect me. What are you going to do though, kick my ass? Not when you're drunk and unhealthy. :lol:

[9]

Let me finish your quote for you in "real world" format:



I do understand why some people call leftists "loonies," it's because of ridiculous stuff like......being holier-than-thou paternalistic lifestylists who talks down to workers who eat meat because it's "murder", or workers who drink or smoke or fuck because it's "dangerous" and "unhealthy" and "OMG, bro, i totally cant respect those reckless sheeple who want to go out and have a drink with their friends on the weekends, it is totally gross, OMG, and I hear they even murder cows just to eat them, I mean, OMFG how can they live with themselves!? and i bet the women even have sex SICK!!!, no self-respect; leftists having normal fun - totally weird, bro!".

[Tyrlop]

I've never had a hangover (Well, not a bad one anyways), but I'd imagine that a pill I tke for migraines would work well. You can buy it in the drug store possibly and if not most herbal stores carry it. It's called Feverfew, it gets rid of migraines so I would think it could deal with a headache from a hangover.


It's not stupid at all. You can't get out of life alive, after all, so why go through it avoiding anything that harms you, or has the potential to case harm? Some of the funnest things you can do are unhealthy but in the interests of having fun and a wide range of interesting experiences, we should do them anyway. You're just a puritanical fuck who presumably thinks that most if not all drugs should be banned and that no-one should ever do contact sports, or BDSM.
what does contact sports, or BDSM mean comrade?


I believe its the case that in pre revolutionary russia the bolsheviks burnt down the vodka bars because the workers kept getting pissed instead of organising.
http://www.ooops.pl/blog/wp-content/uploads/2006/04/CCCP-USSR-niet.jpg
and like most people in this board and thread i say no to overdosis of alcohol

[Le Libérer]

Nah, it's kind of funny to see so-called revolutionaries disrespect their bodies, compromise their health, and turn around and complain about capitalism and being broke after spending their whole paycheck getting "crunk."
Sweetheart I have spent my entire adult life doing everything I do hard, that includes being productive. In fact, because I over exceed at everything I do, I need some down time with chemicals or alcohol.

So until you've conquered the world 3 or 4 times over like i have, keep this kind of advise to yourself. In fact, it sounds to me, you might just need to get drunk and fuck.

I recommend it highly. ;)

[gorillafuck]

what does contact sports, or BDSM mean comrade?
Contact sports are sports that involve aggressive physical contact like American football or rugby. BDSM means "bondage, discipline, sadism and masochism" which is a sexual practice that can look a bit like medieval torture but some people really enjoy.

[Luisrah]

You can't get out of life alive, after all, so why go through it avoiding anything that harms you, or has the potential to case harm? Some of the funnest things you can do are unhealthy

I hope you don't firmly agree with the text in bold.

So since I can't get out of life alive, why avoid walking in the middle of the street, or putting your head in the microwave when it's on? :sneaky:

A bit more and this gets closer to the religious thought of why try to make our lifes better if everyone is going to die and got to a final judgement?
If you firmly believe in the text in bold, then you are undermining your revolutionary feeling.

[Tyrlop]

Contact sports are sports that involve aggressive physical contact like American football or rugby. BDSM means "bondage, discipline, sadism and masochism" which is a sexual practice that can look a bit like medieval torture but some people really enjoy.
sounds interesting i used to play rugby and i onces tackled 7 players in a fight. i was the hero. but our team allways lost.

[the last donut of the night]

It's very annoying how some of the posters here keep talking down to people like Apikoros and co. because they chose to have a fucking good time on NYE. The attitude reeks of paternalism, and frankly, it carries the same fucking tone that my health teacher over in high school does.

People like having fun, and some alcohol and some weed make fun funner. Face it. Hell, we are all stressed due to various financial or social problems. So what's so fucking wrong in going out occasionally and enjoying ourselves?

No, we might get too fucked up. Yes, because we should be little stoic revolutionaries, getting home from shitty work or school, and then spend the whole night digesting all the texts on Marxists.Org. Seriously, please STFU.

[Redmau5]

.So since I can't get out of life alive, why avoid walking in the middle of the street, or putting your head in the microwave when it's on?

Because doing that stuff isn't fun. Smoking, drinking, getting high and taking risks may be detrimental to our health, but they're sure as hell fun to do.

[Tyrlop]

It's very annoying how some of the posters here keep talking down to people like Apikoros and co. because they chose to have a fucking good time on NYE. The attitude reeks of paternalism, and frankly, it carries the same fucking tone that my health teacher over in high school does.

People like having fun, and some alcohol and some weed make fun funner. Face it. Hell, we are all stressed due to various financial or social problems. So what's so fucking wrong in going out occasionally and enjoying ourselves?

No, we might get too fucked up. Yes, because we should be little stoic revolutionaries, getting home from shitty work or school, and then spend the whole night digesting all the texts on Marxists.Org. Seriously, please STFU.
ouhm you're all wrong, wrong wrong, etc etc etc.
you shouldn't do bad stuff its wrong, imoral and bad. think about all the gift and skills and abilities you have. you could use them for something more then just be wrong.

[Luisrah]

It's very annoying how some of the posters here keep talking down to people like Apikoros and co. because they chose to have a fucking good time on NYE. The attitude reeks of paternalism, and frankly, it carries the same fucking tone that my health teacher over in high school does.

People like having fun, and some alcohol and some weed make fun funner. Face it. Hell, we are all stressed due to various financial or social problems. So what's so fucking wrong in going out occasionally and enjoying ourselves?

No, we might get too fucked up. Yes, because we should be little stoic revolutionaries, getting home from shitty work or school, and then spend the whole night digesting all the texts on Marxists.Org. Seriously, please STFU.

I came here with a light spirit and made a suggestion. A suggestion any person can think of, which is not drink too much.

Someone responded rudely

I asked them not to be rude because I think it's quite stupid to be rude at someone who suggested something (not drinking too much) that makes you healthier, and go through less hangovers (which no one likes). And I got more rudeness.

I suggested not drinking, or being more careful, and not drinking too much, for their own sake.
There's not need to be rude at someone who suggests you do something that will only do good things to you is there?

Blah blah, because getting drunk or stoned is the only way to have fun and to relieve ourselves from a shitty work or school day.

So, to finalize, it is you who should shut the fuck up, moron.

[Tyrlop]

I suggested not drinking, or being more careful, and not drinking too much, for their own sake.
There's not need to be rude at someone who suggests you do something that will only do good things to you is there?

I have my right to drink! you can't take my rights away commie brother, you can't handle the truth! the truth is that Everybody likes to drink and we drink when ever we want to drink. just because some reactionary tell us to stop we're not going to, ARE WE CLEAR?

[Dr. Rosenpenis]

I would rather have cirrhosis than be one of these assholes who don't drink
or who don't drink enough

[Tyrlop]

I would rather have cirrhosis than be one of these assholes who don't drink
or who don't drink enough
Thats like saying i would rather die the liver :lol:

[the last donut of the night]

I came here with a light spirit and made a suggestion. A suggestion any person can think of, which is not drink too much.

Someone responded rudely

I asked them not to be rude because I think it's quite stupid to be rude at someone who suggested something (not drinking too much) that makes you healthier, and go through less hangovers (which no one likes). And I got more rudeness.

I suggested not drinking, or being more careful, and not drinking too much, for their own sake.
There's not need to be rude at someone who suggests you do something that will only do good things to you is there?

Blah blah, because getting drunk or stoned is the only way to have fun and to relieve ourselves from a shitty work or school day.

So, to finalize, it is you who should shut the fuck up, moron.


Ouch. The point is that this thread was mostly about people getting drunk on NYE, which isn't too atypical seeing that the day is one of partying. It's not like we're getting shit-faced every single fucking day after work, right?

Furthermore, if you have people with hangovers posting about their own hangovers, does it seem really fucking sensible to advise them not to drink? Well, hell, maybe they could drink less. But they all have headaches, are probably in a bad mood, and rightfully get pissed at your paternalistic 'suggestions'. They all know they drank just a bit too much, maybe. However, nobody needs your advice when it's well known that people like Apikoros and etc are fine, responsible people.

They were in this thread to discuss cures to hangovers, a shared malady, so what's the fucking point in smart-ass jabs at their behaviors? They're all adults, God damn it.

[Le Libérer]

I would rather have cirrhosis than be one of these assholes who don't drink
or who don't drink enough
Being one with a slew of original quotes, the one I have on this subject is this:

"Theres only one thing worse than a alcoholic that drinks, and thats one who doesnt."

Anyone who has gone to an AA meeting and had to sit thru endless stories of those dealing with sobriety, knows what I mean.

:D

[Luisrah]

Ouch. The point is that this thread was mostly about people getting drunk on NYE, which isn't too atypical seeing that the day is one of partying. It's not like we're getting shit-faced every single fucking day after work, right?

Furthermore, if you have people with hangovers posting about their own hangovers, does it seem really fucking sensible to advise them not to drink? Well, hell, maybe they could drink less. But they all have headaches, are probably in a bad mood, and rightfully get pissed at your paternalistic 'suggestions'. They all know they drank just a bit too much, maybe. However, nobody needs your advice when it's well known that people like Apikoros and etc are fine, responsible people.

They were in this thread to discuss cures to hangovers, a shared malady, so what's the fucking point in smart-ass jabs at their behaviors? They're all adults, God damn it.

Again, and to end this discussion, I made a friendly advice in light spirit.
Heck, even CotR hasn't mentioned this, so you guys are the only pissed off.

This is chit chat, and I made a small comment, you know? One of those comments for teh lulz.
And suddenly they tell me to get the fuck out, and shut the fuck up.

The whole conversation just popped up because people were rude to me when I think there was no necessity.

I wasn't being paternalistic, I was in joking spirit, it was you who are being touchy ''rebel'' kids.
Plus, I don't really think that a drunk person is a responsible person. He couldn't contain himself when drinking, and he can't control himself when drunk.

Chill, I'm getting the fuck out.

[FreeFocus]

http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/5326/wakeup.jpg

Dear drunks/addicts/hippies/rock-n-rollers,
Just hope there isn't a revolution in your lifetimes. If there is, consider fighting for the right (they have people who are in shape and focused) or killing yourselves because you will get utterly and completely destroyed fighting. If you don't do one of those two things, be wary of friendly fire. Not all leftists like fighting alongside idiotic tools.

Sincerely,
FreeFocus

:lol:

(ok, I think I'm done now. But seriously.)

[BOZG]

Thats my weeks food shop right there.

If you want to get drunk mega-cheaply, white cider is the way to go.

White cider that's perpetually sold with 50% free! And that appears only to be sold as extra strong!

[BOZG]

I suggested not drinking, or being more careful, and not drinking too much, for their own sake.


I get worse hangovers from drinking small amounts.

[Sleeper]

Tomato juice with fresh chopped red pepper.

[Le Libérer]

Dear drunks/addicts/hippies/rock-n-rollers,
Just hope there isn't a revolution in your lifetimes. If there is, consider fighting for the right (they have people who are in shape and focused) or killing yourselves because you will get utterly and completely destroyed fighting. If you don't do one of those two things, be wary of friendly fire. Not all leftists like fighting alongside idiotic tools.

Sincerely,
FreeFocus

:lol:

(ok, I think I'm done now. But seriously.)Thank you for that. When revolution comes, I suggest whomever is still standing, break out the vodka and/or weed and celebrate a victory proper, like the revolutionaries before us did!

[Le Libérer]

Well its my birthday and the party is in 2 hours. I have been drinking tons of water as suggested by Dr. Pink Penis and will be in the presence of truly evil men and their music, a party gig just for moi.

Wish me well. I shall follow the one commandment of my adult life.
"SEX, DRUGS AND ROCK AND ROLL", darlin'!!

[Floyce White]

Come on, everybody! Free Focus is obviously a kid who never had to face utter humiliation day after day, and then had to wake up the next morning and do it again. He has no idea how MEN behave.

Free Focus thinks that working-class soldiers are his enemy (and he apparently knows nothing about how soldiers drink). He machos on about martial arts as if MEN are so self-conscious to give a damn how others perceive their physical strength.

He's not wrong to struggle with comrades over their physical health. But he knows nothing about our struggle for mental health. So don't take it so seriously.

[Sugar Hill Kevis]

He has no idea how MEN behave.

What about err, women?

[BOZG]

What about err, women?

There are no women on the internet. Everybody knows that :rolleyes:

[FreeFocus]

Come on, everybody! Free Focus is obviously a kid who never had to face utter humiliation day after day, and then had to wake up the next morning and do it again. He has no idea how MEN behave.

Free Focus thinks that working-class soldiers are his enemy (and he apparently knows nothing about how soldiers drink). He machos on about martial arts as if MEN are so self-conscious to give a damn how others perceive their physical strength.

He's not wrong to struggle with comrades over their physical health. But he knows nothing about our struggle for mental health. So don't take it so seriously.

What makes you think I'm a minor? Moreover, you can come to all the (incorrect) conclusions you want about me, you don't know where I live, who I am, or what I've been through. So really, piss off. You're making a fool of yourself.

[Panda Tse Tung]

What makes you think I'm a minor? Moreover, you can come to all the (incorrect) conclusions you want about me, you don't know where I live, who I am, or what I've been through. So really, piss off. You're making a fool of yourself.
I'll help him. There's 5 billion people worldwide, so we gotta narrow things down.
Your from the US (150 million left)
a man (75 million left)
a communist (3 left)
scan on rhetoric....
results: your Bob Avakian.

[FreeFocus]

I'll help him. There's 5 billion people worldwide, so we gotta narrow things down.
Your from the US (150 million left)
a man (75 million left)
a communist (3 left)
scan on rhetoric....
results: your Bob Avakian.

:lol: :lol:

[Dr. Rosenpenis]

http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/5326/wakeup.jpg

Dear drunks/addicts/hippies/rock-n-rollers,
Just hope there isn't a revolution in your lifetimes. If there is, consider fighting for the right (they have people who are in shape and focused) or killing yourselves because you will get utterly and completely destroyed fighting. If you don't do one of those two things, be wary of friendly fire. Not all leftists like fighting alongside idiotic tools.

Sincerely,
FreeFocus

:lol:

(ok, I think I'm done now. But seriously.)

Is anybody here involved in any armed movement? What's the point of pretending to be? Do you frankly believe that soldiers in capitalist armies don't drink and use recreational drugs?

[Dr. Rosenpenis]

Well, hell, maybe they could drink less. But they all have headaches, are probably in a bad mood, and rightfully get pissed at your paternalistic 'suggestions'. all know they drank just a bit too much, maybe. However, nobody needs your advice when it's well known that people like Apikoros and etc are fine, responsible people.

I disagree
I have many regrets in life, but partying is not among them

[FreeFocus]

Is anybody here involved in any armed movement? What's the point of pretending to be? Do you frankly believe that soldiers in capitalist armies don't drink and use recreational drugs?

Well, people on here often complain when the state sends police or soldiers to stifle dissent, rough up protesters, or kill leftists. Is it any wonder they get roughed up or killed when they aren't even familiar with basic self defense or living a healthy lifestyle?

I know for a fact that soldiers do drink and use recreational drugs, but do you "frankly believe" that they aren't reprimanded for this type of behavior by their officers/superiors? If they do it, they keep it under wraps, as this type of stuff is usually not tolerated.

What I know is that the right-wing is well-prepared. It's right-wingers that go to the shooting ranges. It's right-wingers that hunt. It's right-wingers who learn how to survive outdoors. You might claim that they are potential allies because most of them are workers, but really, what happens more often: a person moving from the political right, or a person moving from the political left? I see the latter more often. We tend to lose leftists. And yeah, after the right-wingers come from the range they might bust out the 6-pack of beer, but they still did more than 99.9% of leftists when it comes to self-betterment.

Meanwhile, as the right is doing all of this, leftists argue and debate about people who died 150 or 200 years ago after drinking and getting high right before. Granted, some leftists get more hypertheoretical than others, and argue and debate about the word choice of people who died 150 or 200 years ago, and how it affects organizing today. :rolleyes:

[Dr Mindbender]

what freefocus is saying resonates with me. The majority of leftists have the stereotype of unwashed, unshaven, lethargic (probably middle class) hippy students in baggy clothes that stink of weed and the attitudes of a lot of people here only serve to perpetuate this. Like it or not, i do think this stereotype hinders revolutionary thought from permeating the mainstream. The machismo of the far right on the other hand, does attract a lot of young, angry working class men, orientated around 'self embetterment' as Freefocus puts it. It certainly goes some way to explaining the size of Stormfront.

[FreeFocus]

what freefocus is saying resonates with me. The majority of leftists have the stereotype of unwashed, unshaven, lethargic (probably middle class) hippy students in baggy clothes that stink of weed and the attitudes of a lot of people here only serve to perpetuate this. Like it or not, i do think this stereotype hinders revolutionary thought from permeating the mainstream. The machismo of the far right on the other hand, does attract a lot of young, angry working class men, orientated around 'self embetterment' as Freefocus puts it. It certainly goes some way to explaining the size of Stormfront.

I just went on the Stormfront forum and they have these as main forums:

Privacy, Network Security & Encryption (http://www.***************/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=30)
Self Defense, Martial Arts & Preparedness (http://www.***************/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=35)
Health and Fitness (http://www.***************/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=32)
Homemaking (http://www.***************/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=68)

I mean, shit, look at that. And people on here talk about going to rallies and counterprotesting or attacking the "fash?" Good luck with that. I hope you have money for your medical bills. "No war but class war?" I mean, LOL. No wonder Stormfront laughs us off. You can't act surprised when someone posts something from Stormfront insulting leftists and whatnot.

[9]

what freefocus is saying resonates with me. The majority of leftists have the stereotype of unwashed, unshaven, lethargic (probably middle class) hippy students in baggy clothes that stink of weed and the attitudes of a lot of people here only serve to perpetuate this. Like it or not, i do think this stereotype hinders revolutionary thought from permeating the mainstream. The machismo of the far right on the other hand, does attract a lot of young, angry working class men, orientated around 'self embetterment' as Freefocus puts it. It certainly goes some way to explaining the size of Stormfront.

I'm not understanding what the stereotype you cite has to do with leftists who, like the overwhelming majority of regular people, go out and have a few drinks now and then. The stereotype I have of a lot of "leftists" is of self-righteous middle class vegan college students who have never worked a day in their lives and who think they are morally superior to regular people because they don't eat meat or because of some other shallow lifestyle choice. The closest thing resembling that mentality in this thread is FreeFocus's, who apparently bases his respect for someone - or lack thereof - on whether or not they make the personal choice to consume alcohol. There is a word for that: snobbery.

[FreeFocus]

I'm not understanding what the stereotype you cite has to do with leftists who, like the overwhelming majority of regular people, go out and have a few drinks now and then. The stereotype I have of a lot of "leftists" is of self-righteous middle class vegan college students who have never worked a day in their lives and who think they are morally superior to regular people because they don't eat meat or because of some other shallow lifestyle choice. The closest thing resembling that mentality in this thread is FreeFocus's, who apparently bases his respect for someone - or lack thereof - on whether or not they make the personal choice to consume alcohol. There is a word for that: snobbery.

Interestingly enough, I'm not "middle class," nor am I a vegan. And, hilariously, the "regular people" you speak of have the image of leftists that Mindbender described.

While I think it's silly to consume alcohol, it is a personal choice. A drink here or there, fine, whatever. But the thread title was Hangover remedies. Most people aren't hung over from one drink, or two drinks. A hangover means you went overboard so much that your body responded negatively to it. It means a lack of discipline and self-control. I think that's dangerous not only to the individual, but to others that are around the person.

A person who drinks alcohol once, twice, or thrice a month may still be otherwise respectable. They're using it with at least a modicum of responsibility. A person who gets drunk, and regularly at that, can't really be construed as responsible.

[bcbm]

I mean, shit, look at that. And people on here talk about going to rallies and counterprotesting or attacking the "fash?" Good luck with that. I hope you have money for your medical bills. "No war but class war?" I mean, LOL. No wonder Stormfront laughs us off. You can't act surprised when someone posts something from Stormfront insulting leftists and whatnot.

i don't think the ability to destroy the capitalist mode of production rests in our lifestyle choices. your rhetoric doesn't make a ton of sense anyway. if every pro-revolutionary in the us was a trained war-machine, they would probably still be decimated by the military/police/far-right in civil war as the lines are drawn today. but those lines will be drawn in dramatically different places if a revolutionary situation is developing, regardless of how often we go to the gym.

i agree with you generally that we could do better to stay in shape and learn useful survival skills. i don't think being an arrogant teetotaler is the answer.

[FreeFocus]

i don't think the ability to destroy the capitalist mode of production rests in our lifestyle choices. your rhetoric doesn't make a ton of sense anyway. if every pro-revolutionary in the us was a trained war-machine, they would probably still be decimated by the military/police/far-right in civil war as the lines are drawn today. but those lines will be drawn in dramatically different places if a revolutionary situation is developing, regardless of how often we go to the gym.

i agree with you generally that we could do better to stay in shape and learn useful survival skills. i don't think being an arrogant teetotaler is the answer.

Fair enough, but would you rather have people who are at least capable than have people who are literally the walking dead? There's definitely something to be concerned about when you go on Stormfront and see their board, how it is thriving, and what their board covers.

[bcbm]

Fair enough, but would you rather have people who are at least capable than have people who are literally the walking dead?

who is literally the walking dead? i'm fairly enthusiastic about recreational drug use, even by this forum's standards and i drink fairly often but i think i'm in pretty normal shape physically for someone my age.


There's definitely something to be concerned about when you go on Stormfront and see their board, how it is thriving, and what their board covers.

why? stormfront thrives because their politics are almost completely irrelevant in the real world. the national gathering of the nsm, probably the largest white supremacist organization in the us, doesn't draw more than a few hundred, if that.

you also probably shouldn't let their forum titles fool you. most of the far right isn't particularly committed to staying healthy or being in shape, if the one's i've encountered are anything to judge by.

[FreeFocus]

who is literally the walking dead? i'm fairly enthusiastic about recreational drug use, even by this forum's standards and i drink fairly often but i think i'm in pretty normal shape physically for someone my age.

why? stormfront thrives because their politics are almost completely irrelevant in the real world. the national gathering of the nsm, probably the largest white supremacist organization in the us, doesn't draw more than a few hundred, if that.

you also probably shouldn't let their forum titles fool you. most of the far right isn't particularly committed to staying healthy or being in shape, if the one's i've encountered are anything to judge by.

By walking dead, I meant people who are hypothetically physically able to (undertake things to make themselves stronger, more knowledgeable, more well-rounded and independent), but aren't due to lifestyle choices.

You can make the argument that leftist politics are almost "completely irrelevant in the real world" as well. The right still has a stronger presence than we do, and are often taken more seriously. And the NSM might not draw much, but the Republican Party does.

Even if everyone there isn't healthy, they're studying things like encryption, security, martial arts, DIY stuff, etc. Leftists tend not to, and instead prefer to read obscure, irrelevant texts and then act rebellious by undertaking the type of extreme behavior I'm arguing against.

[bcbm]

By walking dead, I meant people who are hypothetically physically able to (undertake things to make themselves stronger, more knowledgeable, more well-rounded and independent), but aren't due to lifestyle choices.

and, again, i often take drugs, drink to excess and generally abuse my body when the desire strikes me. i also goto the gym, read books, dialogue with others, go to the shooting range and learn about survival and strategy. it isn't impossible to be well-rounded and independent and enjoy getting out of your head.


You can make the argument that leftist politics are almost "completely irrelevant in the real world" as well. The right still has a stronger presence than we do, and are often taken more seriously. And the NSM might not draw much, but the Republican Party does.

sure. working out and learning to survive off edible wilderness plants isn't going to change that, though.


Even if everyone there isn't healthy, they're studying things like encryption, security, martial arts, DIY stuff, etc. Leftists tend not to, and instead prefer to read obscure, irrelevant texts and then act rebellious by undertaking the type of extreme behavior I'm arguing against.

some do. some don't. i don't think it really matters.

[FreeFocus]

25,000 Pull-Ups For Stormfront (http://www.***************/forum/showthread.php?t=651015)


It is the duty of every WN to stay in shape, and after doing all those Push-ups it's probably about time to balance those muscles groups with Pull-Ups.

Anyone can pick up an exercise and join us. Follow this progression from the start if you are an absolute beginner, or move along if you find the entry exercises too easy. It lists the variations of the movement from easiest to hardest:

A) Supine Row (on hips) (http://www.exrx.net/WeightExercises/BackGeneral/BWSupineRowHips.html)
B) Supine Row (high bar) (http://www.exrx.net/WeightExercises/BackGeneral/BWSupineRowHigh.html)
C) Supine Row (http://www.exrx.net/WeightExercises/BackGeneral/BWSupineRow.html)
D) Supine Row (feet elevated) (http://www.exrx.net/WeightExercises/BackGeneral/BWSupineRowFeetElevated.html) (AKA Inverted Row)
E) Self-assisted Chin-up (http://www.exrx.net/WeightExercises/LatissimusDorsi/AsChinupSelf.html) (underhand grip)
F) Assisted Chin-up (partner) (http://www.exrx.net/WeightExercises/LatissimusDorsi/AsChinupPartner.html)
G) Chin-up (http://www.exrx.net/WeightExercises/LatissimusDorsi/BWChinup.html)
H) Pull-up (http://www.exrx.net/WeightExercises/LatissimusDorsi/BWPullup.html) (overhand grip)
I) Weighted Pull-up (http://www.exrx.net/WeightExercises/LatissimusDorsi/WtPullup.html)

...

I'll start. 5x10 Supine Rows.

50.

I'm just sayin'.. They take things seriously. I can't say many of us do. I think I'm done here, it's just slightly frustrating that people don't really consider consequences, or think about things deeply, and just do things because it's considered "cool" or because they felt the impulse. That is all. Maybe I was too abrasive, but this all started after my little comment (something like "Not drinking seems to help stop hangovers") was quoted by someone who took offense to it and told me to "GTFO the thread."

[bcbm]

I'm just sayin'.. They take things seriously. I can't say many of us do.

but what is it they're taking seriously exactly? being in shape? i think its important, but there are way more pressing concerns.


I think I'm done here, it's just slightly frustrating that people don't really consider consequences, or think about things deeply, and just do things because it's considered "cool" or because they felt the impulse.

how do you know what someone's thought process is before they do whatever? and even if they take things on an impulse, why does that preclude being "serious" in other ways?

[Small Geezer]

Back to hangover remedies... soda water with lemon/lime and a greasy full english breakfast (later on when the nausea wears off).

[Dr. Rosenpenis]

i walk about a km every day (to avoid ridiculous subway fares)
i play football every week and therefore I have the need to do some excecises and stretches and shit so as to not injure myself
I feel I'm good shape
and I still drink almost every day

[Ravachol]

Even if everyone there isn't healthy, they're studying things like encryption, security, martial arts, DIY stuff, etc. Leftists tend not to

You must be from a very different 'left' than I am I guess.
Also, the antifascist movement would like to differ with you on the issue of the far right 'studying security' heavily :D


http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/5326/wakeup.jpg

Dear drunks/addicts/hippies/rock-n-rollers,
Just hope there isn't a revolution in your lifetimes. If there is, consider fighting for the right (they have people who are in shape and focused) or killing yourselves because you will get utterly and completely destroyed fighting. If you don't do one of those two things, be wary of friendly fire. Not all leftists like fighting alongside idiotic tools.

Sincerely,
FreeFocus

:lol:

(ok, I think I'm done now. But seriously.)

These leftists would like to disagree with you on that as well

http://southasiarev.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/communist_party_of_india_maoist_2.jpg

Honestly however, unless you are planning on waging open all-out Urban guerilla warfare against the bourgoise (which I advise against at this time, to put it lightly) what use is running around with guns, training in the forests, reading maps and generally being a macho dick attracting the attention of the security services. There isn't gonna be a guerilla war in the first world, nor a general insurrection in most countries (Greece possibly being excluded from this, but I doubt the insurrectionists actually run around like some paramilitary force :p).

The stressing of the masculine macho image doesn't really serve the cause of labor either. If you are arguing that in case of guerilla warfare or an insurrection one should be prepared, I agree, but that simply isn't the case in the countries of most members here. One must do what advances the class war most and in most of the first world that's community-building, union struggles, agitation and propaganda and antifascism.

[Dr Mindbender]

^
staying in shape and developing combat readiness is probably useless against bourgeoisie armies i concede, but the same certainly cant be said for antifascist activity.

[Ravachol]

^
staying in shape and developing combat readiness is probably useless against bourgeoisie armies i concede, but the same certainly cant be said for antifascist activity.

Very true, although I know from personal experience fascists brag a lot. Except for the odd C18 musclehead most fascists hide behind their bomberjackets and combat boots. When it comes to physical confrontation i've seen fascists who claim to 'train daily in martial arts for the advancement of the white race' getting kicked the shit out of them by rather stereotypical crusties, so meh. I've seen situations where antifascists where outnumbered by fascists one to three and still they fled the scene, regardless of all the 'pushups' they claimed on stormfront.

When it comes to preparedness and security, yes that's crucial, but so is organizing and, more important than all paramilitary 'fun' stuff, community support.

[bcbm]

^
staying in shape and developing combat readiness is probably useless against bourgeoisie armies i concede, but the same certainly cant be said for antifascist activity.

mace and an extendable baton work about as well as martial arts training against most fascists.

[Dr Mindbender]

mace and an extendable baton work about as well as martial arts training against most fascists.

thats not a lot of use if you live in a country where both happen to be illegal.

also to quote grey fox ''only a fool trusts his life to a weapon''.

[Panda Tse Tung]

To answe the OP though: beer.

[9]

"Yeah, bro, I could take the fash with my bare hands!"

Grow up. The e-machismo in this thread is obnoxious as hell.

[KC]

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[bcbm]

thats not a lot of use if you live in a country where both happen to be illegal.

also to quote grey fox ''only a fool trusts his life to a weapon''.

seems odd to be concerned about legalities when discussing politically motivated assault.

but anyway, then you're probably better off running away. most nazis aren't worth scrapping with and fighting fair is stupid.

[Ravachol]

"Yeah, bro, I could take the fash with my bare hands!"

Grow up. The e-machismo in this thread is obnoxious as hell.

You fail to realize this board is full of commies on steroids who bash bonehead skulls every day of the week! :p

[brigadista]

hot hot bath , white russian and a fried breakfast

[Dr Mindbender]

seems odd to be concerned about legalities when discussing politically motivated assault.

.

I was thinking more in terms of self defence.

I dont know about the states but in the british isles the fash love pre-emptive left wing violence because it gives them something to cry about in their newspapers and blogs.



but anyway, then you're probably better off running away. most nazis aren't worth scrapping with and fighting fair is stupid.
Speak for yourself.

Back on topic: Before you go home from pub/club, get a big kebab. Preferably extra large donner, naan bread and everything on. *drool*

I pity you yanks who will never know such joyous, life shortening sustinence.

[BOZG]

I was thinking more in terms of self defence.

I dont know about the states but in the british isles the fash love pre-emptive left wing violence because it gives them something to cry about in their newspapers and blogs.



Speak for yourself.

Back on topic: Before you go home from pub/club, get a big kebab. Preferably extra large donner, naan bread and everything on. *drool*

I pity you yanks who will never know such joyous, life shortening sustinence.

And the best part about kebabs is that when you wake up the next morning, you can eat half of it back off your fingers and clothes!

[bcbm]

You fail to realize this board is full of commies on steroids who bash bonehead skulls every day of the week! :p

i don't just bash their skulls, i eat their brains when i'm done.


I was thinking more in terms of self defence.

me too


Back on topic: Before you go home from pub/club, get a big kebab. Preferably extra large donner, naan bread and everything on. *drool*

I pity you yanks who will never know such joyous, life shortening sustinence.whatever, we have taco bell.:thumbup1:

[Le Libérer]

whatever, we have taco bell.:thumbup1:
And Denny's, Waffle house, IHOP, and Steak and Eggs, tho taco bell the next day does work on hangovers.

[bcbm]

we don't have waffle house in the north. :crying:

[Le Libérer]

we don't have waffle house in the north. :crying:
No Awful House? Damn Man, you are missing out.

[Uncle Hank]

Dear drunks/addicts/hippies/rock-n-rollers,
Just hope there isn't a revolution in your lifetimes. If there is, consider fighting for the right (they have people who are in shape and focused) or killing yourselves because you will get utterly and completely destroyed fighting. If you don't do one of those two things, be wary of friendly fire. Not all leftists like fighting alongside idiotic tools.

Sincerely,
FreeFocus

:lol:

(ok, I think I'm done now. But seriously.)
A little late to the party. Oh well.

Let me ask you a question. Which revolution have you participated in? You see, it escapes me. But thank you for telling people off based on your experiences. And yes, brilliant! Telling your comrades how pathetic they are because you don't agree with lifestyle choices is almost as good as the useless infighting and sectarianism produced by the Stalinkiddies; albeit a little more rare. Your friendly fire statement... don't worry, we'll be wearing neon pink and green during the revolution to identify ourselves as leftists. Your last sentence is a particularly sharp blade that cuts both ways. So next time you're so vague about who the idiotic tool is, think reeeeeeal hard about who it could possibly be. :)

Look, what the hell form do you think the revolution is gonna take? Because without a doubt I can assure you there will be no octagon or ring beyond the metaphorical, and hand to hand combat will be ruled practically obsolete! A fatass with a Barrett .50 Cal is sure as hell gonna beat a lean mean Royce Gracie-like hand-to-hand fighting machine. It's up to you to decide who's who. Also, why in the fuck do you feel it's so necessary to alienate people who party a little more than you? (which apparently isn't saying much) OK, Mr. Army of One. Mr. Morally Superior. Have fun turning everyone to your way of taking a load off. People who let getting fucked up fuck them up have a problem regardless of who they are, and I'm sure we all recognize a revolution is definitely not the time to get fucked up.

Sigh, this is getting all muddled. Just think next time you decide people need your help to improve their lives. Next time you think they need to improve their lives even, unless they're in very dire straights and there's something you can do about it.

[Bright Banana Beard]

I got drunk and fuck. Good time.

[FreeFocus]

A little late to the party. Oh well.

Let me ask you a question. Which revolution have you participated in? You see, it escapes me. But thank you for telling people off based on your experiences. And yes, brilliant! Telling your comrades how pathetic they are because you don't agree with lifestyle choices is almost as good as the useless infighting and sectarianism produced by the Stalinkiddies; albeit a little more rare. Your friendly fire statement... don't worry, we'll be wearing neon pink and green during the revolution to identify ourselves as leftists. Your last sentence is a particularly sharp blade that cuts both ways. So next time you're so vague about who the idiotic tool is, think reeeeeeal hard about who it could possibly be. :)

Look, what the hell form do you think the revolution is gonna take? Because without a doubt I can assure you there will be no octagon or ring beyond the metaphorical, and hand to hand combat will be ruled practically obsolete! A fatass with a Barrett .50 Cal is sure as hell gonna beat a lean mean Royce Gracie-like hand-to-hand fighting machine. It's up to you to decide who's who. Also, why in the fuck do you feel it's so necessary to alienate people who party a little more than you? (which apparently isn't saying much) OK, Mr. Army of One. Mr. Morally Superior. Have fun turning everyone to your way of taking a load off. People who let getting fucked up fuck them up have a problem regardless of who they are, and I'm sure we all recognize a revolution is definitely not the time to get fucked up.

Sigh, this is getting all muddled. Just think next time you decide people need your help to improve their lives. Next time you think they need to improve their lives even, unless they're in very dire straights and there's something you can do about it.

Guns will win, but it's not the era of trench warfare anymore, you know. It's not 1914. Many of the wars going on today are urban in nature, it's door to door, it's close quarters combat. Grappling is important. Also, shows how much you know about much of anything - Royce Gracie is a BJJ artist, not a "hand-to-hand fighting machine," and his striking was never more than below average.

The rest of your post, good effort trying to be witty. You get an A for effort, but that's just about it.

[Uncle Hank]

Guns will win, but it's not the era of trench warfare anymore, you know. It's not 1914. Many of the wars going on today are urban in nature, it's door to door, it's close quarters combat. Grappling is important. Also, shows how much you know about much of anything - Royce Gracie is a BJJ artist, not a "hand-to-hand fighting machine," and his striking was never more than below average.

The rest of your post, good effort trying to be witty. You get an A for effort, but that's just about it.
Please. Wars are not won on the front lines today. I put the Royce Gracie thing in there to piss you off- nice to know it worked. :) And how in the fuck does me not knowing much about the fighting style of an obscure legend in a quite obscure sport equate to my knowledge of anything beyond the sport being limited? :rolleyes:

No, I'll tell you about the rest of my post. The rest of my post you totally ignored. You ignored my reaching out to you, my asking you to not be so judgmental, my asking you to not be the idiotic tool. You get an F for effort, because honestly? Shit's weak. But thanks for the A.

[FreeFocus]

Please. Wars are not won on the front lines today. I put the Royce Gracie thing in there to piss you off- nice to know it worked. :) And how in the fuck does me not knowing much about the fighting style of an obscure legend in a quite obscure sport equate to my knowledge of anything beyond the sport being limited? :rolleyes:

No, I'll tell you about the rest of my post. The rest of my post you totally ignored. You ignored my reaching out to you, my asking you to not be so judgmental, my asking you to not be the idiotic tool. You get an F for effort, because honestly? Shit's weak. But thanks for the A.

lulz :lol:

and how are wars "not won on the front lines?" I'm just talking about tactics, not strategy. Wars are won behind doors when strategy is developed.

[Uncle Hank]

lulz :lol:

and how are wars "not won on the front lines?" I'm just talking about tactics, not strategy. Wars are won behind doors when strategy is developed.
Gee, that's funny, it's almost like you ignored parts of my post again. :)

They're not won on the front lines because the only examples of war today, the war keeps on going despite the losses on the front lines.

[FreeFocus]

Gee, that's funny, it's almost like you ignored parts of my post again. :)

They're not won on the front lines because the only examples of war today, the war keeps on going despite the losses on the front lines.

Losses basically only matter when they prevent the accomplishment of strategic goals. I think the US accomplished many of its goals in Iraq, but Afghanistan will probably be a bottomless pit for its occupiers, and a geostrategic disaster for them.

[Il Medico]

we don't have waffle house in the north. :crying:
We don't have many in Florida either. :(

[Ravachol]

i don't just bash their skulls, i eat their brains when i'm done.


I love you so much comrade


Guns will win, but it's not the era of trench warfare anymore, you know. It's not 1914. Many of the wars going on today are urban in nature, it's door to door, it's close quarters combat.

The point is, what use is Urban Guerilla warfare in this stage? You honestly believe urban guerilla warfare alone can overthrow first world bourgoise states? Secondly, even if that was technically possible, would that be the kind of strategy that would emancipate our class? I suspect that however well meant it would most likely result in bonapartism and the establishment of a revolutionary military ruling class. The class war is to be fought along class lines and in the places where class struggle is most present, the workfloors and the communities.

I agree with you on the need for professionalisation of a lot of the 'left' though. I've seen some serious backwards actions that could have been prevented by proper organising and a professional and dedicated attitude :glare:

[Pirate turtle the 11th]

Most people are not strange beefed up gym freaks.
The fash have a strong tendency to be fat fucks
Revolutionary nuns are probably the kind of social retards the left really dosent need.

[the last donut of the night]

Speak for yourself.

Back on topic: Before you go home from pub/club, get a big kebab. Preferably extra large donner, naan bread and everything on. *drool*

I pity you yanks who will never know such joyous, life shortening sustinence.


you obviously have never heard of wendy's baconator:


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[Dr. Rosenpenis]

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