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Patchd
25th December 2009, 07:30
Hey, might be a bit pissed, but fucking happy xmas is it? I found some guy sleeping on the streets getting pissed on xmas eve, why cos he's got nothing fucking other to do, brought him back to mine just so he dont have to fucking sleep in the cold. Fuck capitalism man, all this talka bout fucking helping the poor even during xmas, fuck em the fucking pricks boss cocks,. They dont give a shit bout nowt, fucking pricks.

FUCK IT DICKHEADS.

RHIZOMES
25th December 2009, 11:14
Christmas for my extended family = spoiling my all my under-10-year-old cousins rotten with lots of expensive gifts which they got from extracting surplus value from Pizza Hut workers

Disclaimer before getting the wrong ideas: they live on the other (rich) side of town, my own family is very prole

Chambered Word
25th December 2009, 13:07
Christmas for my extended family = spoiling my all my under-10-year-old cousins rotten with lots of expensive gifts which they got from extracting surplus value from Pizza Hut workers

Disclaimer before getting the wrong ideas: they live on the other (rich) side of town, my own family is very prole

Shit. Do they know you're a commie?

The Essence Of Flame Is The Essence Of Change
25th December 2009, 22:17
Christmas for my extended family = spoiling my all my under-10-year-old cousins rotten with lots of expensive gifts which they got from extracting surplus value from Pizza Hut workers

Disclaimer before getting the wrong ideas: they live on the other (rich) side of town, my own family is very prole
Ouch.

Angry Young Man
25th December 2009, 22:26
Can you actually call yourself a very working class family if most of your extended family is middle-class?

9
25th December 2009, 22:32
I don't think your relationship to the means of production is dictated by the status of some uncles and aunts...

Angry Young Man
25th December 2009, 22:49
But by your grandparents.

mykittyhasaboner
25th December 2009, 23:20
Hey, might be a bit pissed, but fucking happy xmas is it? I found some guy sleeping on the streets getting pissed on xmas eve, why cos he's got nothing fucking other to do, brought him back to mine just so he dont have to fucking sleep in the cold. Fuck capitalism man, all this talka bout fucking helping the poor even during xmas, fuck em the fucking pricks boss cocks,. They dont give a shit bout nowt, fucking pricks.

FUCK IT DICKHEADS.

I concur with everything mentioned here.

The Red Next Door
27th December 2009, 09:00
it was the perfect time of the year for my cousin to a spoiled little rat.

RHIZOMES
27th December 2009, 09:26
Shit. Do they know you're a commie?

No not yet but it's inevitable. I don't give a fuck though it's more just I can't be arsed arguing with people over communism when they're completely blinded by their own class position.

It's more ironic considering I do volunteer work for the union that organizes Pizza Hut, lulz


Can you actually call yourself a very working class family if most of your extended family is middle-class?

Um, yes? We've never received financial support from them and we live in the opposite side of town, we only really visit them for special occasions. We struggle to make ends meet on a single-parent teacher income and I've always lived in a very working class area of the city for basically my entire life. I would describe that as "very prole".

The economic position of me and my extended family has shifted a lot. My mother's side are mostly the managerial class (but they arose from Manchester and Welsh working class immigrant families, and some of my great aunts worked in factories) and with my father's side - my great-granddad was a millionaire theatre actor and my granddad is some alternative medicine quack businessman (but the wealth dissipated by my generation). Due to unfortunate life decisions and events that happened with my parents (including my fathers suicide which caused me to grow up in single-parent household), we moved down the class ladder rather than up.

I think the best way to describe the class position of my immediate family is proletarianized former petty-bourgeoisie.

The Essence Of Flame Is The Essence Of Change
27th December 2009, 09:39
Can you actually call yourself a very working class family if most of your extended family is middle-class?
Extended families are just that-extended.If you had a big extended family just as me you would see that as it is logical there are sheer differences between members of some sides.Some gene relationships with some members doesn't make you having grown up in the same enviroment and with the same messagess.We also have a rich branch in our family from my mother's side, a distant second uncle or something, but that dumb fuck never helped any of his brothers or sisters when they needed money.He even refused to pay his son's rent while he was going on university and so he finally dropped university and worked as a taxi driver.I don't think anyone will be sad when that scrooge dies tbh

RHIZOMES
27th December 2009, 09:43
Come to think of it the entirety of my extended family are middle class, but me and my mother are quite geographically isolated from all of them (mother's side = opposite side of town, father's side = opposite side of the Pacific Ocean) and we're like the only poor ones in the family, lol.

The Essence Of Flame Is The Essence Of Change
27th December 2009, 09:48
Middle class is an american economist term, not a marxist.As for my family's class well it's the opposite of yours Arizona.I grew up to see my parents climbing from prole to middle class prole and in the last two years to petty bourgeioise.My father is now living the american dream in his head while he was a communist while in my age so now I'm getting all the ''ye it's only a phase of your life you will get over it shit''.Can't wait for that year to finish and enter uni

RHIZOMES
27th December 2009, 09:54
Middle class is an american economist term, not a marxist.As for my family's class well it's the opposite of yours Arizona.I grew up to see my parents climbing from prole to middle class prole and in the last two years to petty bourgeioise.My father is now living the american dream in his head while he was a communist while in my age so now I'm getting all the ''ye it's only a phase of your life you will get over it shit''.Can't wait for that year to finish and enter uni

To put it in Marxist terms - My father's side basically went from bourgeois to petty-bourgeois (lawyers, artisans, small businessmen, etc, we even have a famous historical industrialist (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matthew_Boulton) in our bloodline), my mother's side went from peasants to working-class to petty-bourgeois (middle-management and small businessmen).

RedRise
27th December 2009, 10:36
Neither sides of my family have a great deal of money (although my dad's must have once if you go back far enough) but I can assure you that nobody would be helping anybody financially even if they did. Not so much that they're scrooges but my dad's family is on the other side of the country and we get contact with them about twice a year and my mum's family have this idea that everyone should claw their own way up the ladder of success without so much as a bit of encouragement.
Not surprisingly my Christmas presents were a load of crap.:rolleyes: