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reltih floda
22nd December 2009, 16:06
I've read up on Communism and I still have a few questions to ask.

Karl Marx says that the proletarian will stand up against the burgeoisie, and plant the seeds of Communism through Socialism. However, it seems like this won't happen. Since pure Communism (nor Socialism, for that matter) has never been practiced on a full scale in modern society, and has instead grown sour somewhere along the way, wouldn't that imply that Communism was more of an idea than a realistic political system that could effectively be put into practice?

A Communist society would probably fall apart, anyway. Even if Communism were to be established, since there would be no national bond between the people, it would be very likely that the society would divide itself into several different tribes (Communism is basically tribalism with a few modern touches) and fight amongst itself? How would you prevent this?

There always needs to be some form of government. Communism may have worked during the times of Cro Magnon, but that all changed with the development of cities and civil law. Although I level with you on the fact that capitalism is cruel and unjust, however, wouldn't the other extreme would lead to total chaos?

The whole Marxist idea seems pretty idealistic, and I'm curious as to how you would go about making your dreams come true.

9
22nd December 2009, 16:13
Xram Lrak wrote extensively on this subject... Wonder how long you'll last.

reltih floda
22nd December 2009, 16:30
Btw, I was also wondering why fascists are the only ones who can't post here.

SocialismOrBarbarism
22nd December 2009, 17:05
Well, you call communism a political system that has gone sour in the past at one point, and then you call it a stateless ideal at another, so which is it? If you're talking of stateless communism, then it's not supposed to be some system you can just "put into place," it's only the speculated effect of the abolition of relative scarcity. If your beef is just with this utopian-seeming communism, then what's wrong with the lesser developed "state" socialism?