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(A)(_|
18th December 2009, 00:24
Hey there fellow revolutionaries of the left-wing. My name is Ali, I am 16 years old and I hail from a developing country steadily forging alliances with the capitalist front and painfully turning its back on its own people. As well as being agents for the all-powerful American government, the government of my country is painkilling its people and sedating their very miniatures of aspiration and dreams by artistically allowing them to imbibe themselves with as much religion and as much football as they can possibly get. You can get the point that I am shattered to tell you that these people have gotten as close to being politically conscious as Homer Simpson has to losing 5 pounds but yet, I feel that there must come some hope from these masses, some sort of trigger to ignite them into sheer mayhem and frustration. But with such, there also lies ignorance, no moral compasses, no education, no political awareness and a withholding capitalist front that has disallowed any hope for the progression of these people. I say all of this because it is this out of a number of reasons that has motivated me to join the left-wing.

I first got interested in communism when I had found myself questioning my religious beliefs. However, it couldn't be said that my reaching of any political interest in communism was an act of rebellion. It is well noted in my country that communism is very well much equated with atheism, and that is why I started checking up Karl Marx on google; to see why this man hated religion so much considering that the idea of any religious suspicion based on reason and evidence seemed atrocious to me. Although many of the people in my country know communism to be anti-religious, that is as far as they pretty much know about it. This was only a short phase however as I had only been invoked to search about communism for the reasons it was thought to be religiously synonymous. I then watched the movie Zeitgeist, and as much as I know people on this board would think about this movie, it still remains that you must take into consideration that to someone with very little political knowledge, the idea of a failed monetary system, or the ills of profit-based societies, or the corruption that lies within the capitalist system, would seem very astounding. To me, the possibility that all the hardships of the poor and inequality of humans would be a result of a world governing political ideology was very much unthought of.

Yet, this did not necessarily push me towards communism. The influence of punk rock bands and my admiration for the band Rage Against the Machine were a prime reason for me to consider any real political motivation or tendency. RATM were like gods to me, and after much research, I found the lump of all these influences was this lovely political ideology RATM also held to. I began seriously getting into it and tried to understand as much of the theory as possible. The greek riots sparked my interest into Anarchism and I was motivated to read into its theory. I would consider myself to lack a ton of required political theory which is why I came on here; to learn as much as possible and to get involved with discussions which would allow me to try and strengthen my political beliefs. I guess I would be labeled Libertarian socialist, or Anarcho-communist however, I've got a lot to learn. I hope I can :)

*Sorry about the essay* :D

hugsandmarxism
18th December 2009, 00:28
Welcome aboard :)

New Tet
18th December 2009, 00:32
I first got interested in communism when I had found myself questioning my religious beliefs. However, it couldn't be said that my reaching of any political interest in communism was an act of rebellion. It is well noted in my country that communism is very well much equated with atheism, and that is why I started checking up Karl Marx on google; to see why this man hated religion so much considering that the idea of any religious suspicion based on reason and evidence seemed atrocious to me.

Where did you read that Marx "hated religion"?

Oops, sorry: Salaam!

(A)(_|
18th December 2009, 00:46
Where did you read that Marx "hated religion"?

Well, not read as much as heard. My dad always went on about the "religion is the opiate of the people" quote that it started getting me interested. Plus I'd get into arguments with my school teachers about religion on a very light level (not in anyway opposing it) but saying that Christians weren't going to burn in hell for believing Jesus is a god. So then for some reason they would call me a "communist". So that's where I received the impression that "Marx hated religion". After 2 years from then, I understand more why the guy opposed of religious indoctrination and the myth of material satisfaction and all the other ills attributed to religion. Especially after seeing from an objective perspective how these things really kept people with a motive to continue on living. With six kids and a shitty salary, you'd need to believe that there was something else there or some sort of an eternal laying where you would be compensated for your hardships on earth. What sickens me more is how the rich go on about how materially satisfied they are and yet how they wouldn't see how narcissistic that would sound. People here have become very materialistic, probably due to their insecurity, it sucks to live in a country where someone's salary equals another's dinner outing in a fancy restaurant, yet he boasts about how materially satisfied he is. It sucks and I'm sorry for getting carried away again :(

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18th December 2009, 02:46
Welcome ( :

Weezer
18th December 2009, 04:04
Hi...welcome to my forum. Beware of Wallmasters. :ninja:

Q
18th December 2009, 07:02
Well, not read as much as heard. My dad always went on about the "religion is the opiate of the people" quote that it started getting me interested.
That quote is often misunderstood. Let me cite the full quote:


Religious suffering is, at one and the same time, the expression of real suffering and a protest against real suffering. Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world, and the soul of soulless conditions. It is the opium of the people.

Source (http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1843/critique-hpr/intro.htm)

Whereas "opium" should be understood as a drug used by the elite of those days, to enter a state of ecstasy.

So this quote cannot be used as the basis of some anti-religion stance of Marxism. However, Marxism is a scientific method and as such relies on empirical data of social development. Religion has no place in such a materialist way of thinking and it is therefore not that strange many Marxists are also atheists.

Welcome :)

(A)(_|
18th December 2009, 15:24
Thanks for all the welcomes everybody, and Q as well for validating my account and clearing that up :)

Искра
18th December 2009, 16:03
Salam Aleikum

Lyev
18th December 2009, 20:46
Pleased to meet you comrade. I love RATM too, but you'll get some users on here (like Pirate Utopian :glare:) who'll say otherwise... don't listen to them :lol:

(A)(_|
19th December 2009, 19:22
Pleased to meet you comrade. I love RATM too, but you'll get some users on here (like Pirate Utopian :glare:) who'll say otherwise... don't listen to them :lol:

Shun the non believers! :lol:

Girl A
19th December 2009, 23:09
Welcome to RevLeft comrade =) Cool intro post.

Forumpost
22nd December 2009, 14:14
hi this is forum post.

革命者
22nd December 2009, 14:58
Hi (A)(_| !

Welcome to the forums. Interesting introduction.

And Marx couldn't always be spot on :lol:

Religion is a strange concept anyway. Seen as anything metaphysical I think it's great. Equated to the church it's atrocious.

Enjoy your stay!