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KurtFF8
13th December 2009, 00:06
Source (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091212/ap_on_sc/climate;_ylt=Asr7AAQJf_5OFQGEVJ.sQ_Ss0NUE;_ylu=X3o DMTM3anA5ZWh0BGFzc2V0A2FwLzIwMDkxMjEyL2NsaW1hdGUEY 2NvZGUDbW9zdHBvcHVsYXIEY3BvcwMxBHBvcwMyBHB0A2hvbWV fY29rZQRzZWMDeW5fdG9wX3N0b3J5BHNsawM5NjhkZXRhaW5lZ GE-)


By JOHN HEILPRIN, Associated Press Writers John Heilprin, Associated Press Writers – 39 mins ago

COPENHAGEN – Tens of thousands of protesters marched through the chilly Danish capital and nearly 1,000 were detained Saturday in a mass rally to demand an ambitious global climate pact, just as talks hit a snag over rich nations' demands on China and other emerging economies.

The mostly peaceful demonstrations in Copenhagen provided the centerpiece of a day of global climate activism stretching from Europe to Asia. Police assigned extra officers to watch protesters marching toward the suburban conference center to demand that leaders act now to fight climate change.

Police estimated their numbers at 40,000, while organizers said as many as 100,000 had joined the march from downtown Copenhagen. It ended with protesters holding aloft candles and torches as they swarmed by night outside the Bella Center where the 192-nation U.N. climate conference is being held.

There have been a couple of minor protests over the past week, but Saturday's was by far the largest.

Police said they rounded up 968 in a preventive action against a group of youth activists at the tail end of the demonstration. Officers in riot gear moved in when some of the activists, masking their faces, threw cobblestones through the windows of the former stock exchange and Foreign Ministry buildings.

A police officer received minor injuries when he was hit by a rock thrown from the group and one protester was injured by fireworks, police spokesman Flemming Steen Munch said.

Earlier, police said they had detained 19 people, mainly for breaking Denmark's strict laws against carrying pocket knives or wearing masks during demonstrations.

Inside the Bella Center, the European Union, Japan and Australia joined the U.S. in criticizing a draft global warming pact that says major developing nations must rein in greenhouse gases, but only if they have outside financing. Rich nations want to require developing nations to limit emissions, with or without financial help.

Swedish Environment Minister Andreas Carlgren, representing the 27-nation EU, told The Associated Press that "there has been a growing understanding that there must be commitments to actions by emerging economies as well."

He said those commitments "must be binding, in the sense that states are standing behind their commitments."

Indian Environment Minister Jairam Ramesh said his country — the world's No. 5 greenhouse gas polluter — will not offer more than its current pledge to slow its growth rate of emissions. It has offered to cut greenhouse gases measured against production by 20 to 25 percent by 2020.

"National interest trumps everything else," Ramesh told the AP. "Whatever I have to do, I've said in my Parliament. We'll engage them (the U.S. and China). I'm not here to make new offers."

China has made voluntary commitments to rein in its carbon emissions but doesn't want to be bound by international law to do so. In China's view, the U.S. and other rich countries have a heavy historical responsibility to cut emissions and any climate deal in Copenhagen should take into account a country's level of development.

Alden Meyer of the Union of Concerned Scientists told the AP that rich nations are trying to re-negotiate the deal they reached two years ago on the island of Bali, calling on developing nations to limit emissions with financial help.

"It's going to blow up in their faces," he said. "The rich countries are trying to move the goal posts. And developing countries are not going to agree to that, no matter how loudly the rich countries demand it."

The tightly focused negotiating text was meant to lay out the crunch themes for environment ministers to wrestle with as they prepare for a summit of some 110 heads of state and government at the end of next week.

U.S. delegate Jonathan Pershing said the draft failed to address the contentious issue of carbon emissions by emerging economies.

"The current draft didn't work in terms of where it is headed," Pershing said in the plenary, supported by the European Union, Japan and Norway.

But the EU also directed criticism at the U.S., insisting it could make greater commitments to push the talks forward without stretching the legislation pending in Congress. Both the U.S. and China should be legally bound to keep whatever promises they make, Carlgren said.

Thousands also marched in a "Walk Against Warming" in major cities across Australia and about 200 Filipino activists staged a festive rally in Manila to mark the Global Day of Action on climate change. Dozens of Indonesian environmental activists rallied in front of the U.S. Embassy in Jakarta.

Environmentalists staged stunts and protests in 100 piazzas across Italy, from Venice's St. Mark's Square to a historical piazza in downtown Rome. They carried banners that read "stop the planet's fever" and asked passers-by to sign a petition calling on world leaders to reach a deal to reduce emissions.

In Copenhagen, Archbishop Desmond Tutu, a Nobel Peace laureate, and Greenpeace leader Kumi Naidoo were among those ratcheting up the pressure for a fair, ambitious and binding treaty.

Naidoo exhorted politicians to act bravely by crafting a fair, ambitious and binding treaty, so they can later "look their children and grandchildren in the eyes" and tell them they did the right thing. "Failure to do so will be the worst political crime that they would have committed," he said.

At a candlelight vigil on the conference grounds, Tutu compared the mass demonstrations outside to other popular movements that made a mark in history.

"We want to remind you that they marched in Berlin and the wall fell," Tutu said. "They marched in Cape Town and apartheid fell. They marched in Copenhagen and we are going to get a real deal."

Demonstrators chanted and carried banners reading "Demand Climate Justice," "The World Wants A Real Deal" and "There Is No Planet B," navigating for miles along city streets and over bridges past officers in riot gear, police dogs and the flashing lights of dozens of police vans.

Inside the Bella Center, delegates gathered around flat-screen TVs showing both the larger peaceful rally and the police crackdown on the young activists. Riot police tied them up with plastic cuffs and made them sit down on a closed-off street before busing them to a detention center set up for the climate conference.

Britain's Ed Miliband, the climate change secretary, said dealmakers have a long ways to go. "There are difficult issues to overcome," he said, "around emissions, around finance, and around transparency and they are all issues we need to tackle in the coming days."

But conference president Connie Hedegaard sought to reassure people that world leaders have come to seriously confront climate change.

"It has taken years to build up the pressure ... that we're also seeing unfolding today in many capitals around the world," Hedegaard said. "And I believe that that has contributed to making the political price for not delivering in Copenhagen so high."

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Associated Press writers Jan M. Olsen, Karl Ritter and Arthur Max contributed to this report.

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Hmm I can't find the clips of CNN, Fox, and MSNBC's outrage over this blatant attack on the freedom fighters who are simply trying to defend democracy.

How many were arrested in the mass arrests in Iran's "uprising"?

KurtFF8
13th December 2009, 01:37
Also,

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Dragonsign
13th December 2009, 21:08
I was there! right behind that group what fired fireworks, "the anarchists" as she said... stupid reporter. There where a lot of anarchists in the demonstration, only a few was in that group.

As a whole, the demosntration was great, about 120 000 demonstrators, awsome :laugh:
over 900 of the people arrested was released after a few hours, none of them had done anything, just preemptive arrests by the police.

Keep up the pressure comrades! :D

Wanted Man
13th December 2009, 22:29
How many were arrested in the mass arrests in Iran's "uprising"?

Quite a few. But the difference is that the ones in Copenhagen don't get raped and/or murdered. Just sayin'.

Of course, that doesn't change the fact that the arrests and police brutality are disgusting as always. In this case, it seems that the police pre-planned the assault in order to ruin the demo.

Sasha
13th December 2009, 22:39
today another 300 got arrested on their way (!!) to an action.
looks like its indeed an planned tactic to prevent demonstrations.
fucking bastards...
they tried it before at an EU summit here in 1997, endend up with costing them a lot in damages (http://www.fecl.org/circular/5508.htm).

it explains why i havent seen tyrlop for some days ;-)

Vladimir Innit Lenin
14th December 2009, 00:04
This sort of stuff makes me angry. The reactionary musings of 'Middle Englanders', too. You tell them that something like this happens - nearly 1,000 arbitrary arrests comparable to any of the repressino that occured in socialist/former socialist states - and they come out with some rubbish about 'freedom.'

I don't have too much to say about environmental change. From the rudimentary education on the subject that I have I certainly support those who are pushing for change, it seems clear that climate change is happening and is man made.

L.J.Solidarity
14th December 2009, 10:24
The demo itself was unfortunately led by NGOs, Greens and Social democrats (making up the first three blocks), the first speaker at the closing rally was a former president of Ireland and arrests or the fact that at the time of the rally several 100 people were still surrounded and being mistreated by the cops on the street wasn't mentioned at all.
However, marching behind all those bourgeois there were trade unions and all kinds of leftist organisations marching, among them a large group of belgian unionists who sat down, made noise with their helmets on the ground, ran 100 meters forward and sat down again all the time, several scandinavian youth organisations who were in a very good mood and the NPA who were shouting out slogans non-stop for two hours or more.

Jimmie Higgins
14th December 2009, 11:34
I was reading about this in the Guardian. Obviously my sympathies are with the protesters, but there was one quote that I had to laugh at. A protester from the UK was quoted as saying that their friends were arrested for supposedly throwing rocks and bottles at cops. The protester went on to explain that the charge was impossible because: "my friends were dressed as a cow and could not have possibly thrown a rock with their hooves.":laugh:

Fuck the cops, I feel for your friends... but that's a funny fucking quote.

Mowgli
14th December 2009, 18:12
I got arrested to, after only 1 hour of demo. It's so stupid that there were 2 black blocs. If there would have been only one the situation would have been a lot different I think. I knew at the beginning of the demo I had to go check in front if there was another one. Let this be a lesson for the future: WE MUST BE BETTER ORGANISED THAN THIS. 1 BLOC, 1 MOVEMENT!! ANTICAPITALISTA!!!!! WE'LL GET YOU NEXT TIME COPS!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tc2JTIiP-Ak

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQ_cBxFfrD0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ivh5whWtAOo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FP4EwIqhGc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4gkf6tUMkk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fF968o6tGPs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=osLYbxTU9Hk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QpJMIC2D9Aw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=InDcIr5_reg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTjadrzlPyI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZtBWATne5s

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIjRHCy3FN8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9C3cXBO_DY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9C3cXBO_DY)

rebelmouse
16th December 2009, 09:40
suma sumarum, cops made repression like in burma dictatorship. they wanted to stop any counter way of thinking than official. it was not repression against violent actions, it was repression against freedom of thinking.
every announced demo was totally destroyed by cops. so I think some actions like "hit the production", action of trying to close harbor for one day, should be done in secret, if they really want to close the harbor. public calling for this action just brought cops and people were arrested and demo was destroyed. there were several hundreds people, after public call, so, activists could gather so many people even without public call. I think so.
in any case, you can follow situation at my website www.inventati.org/anarhizam (http://www.inventati.org/anarhizam), click on English section in right up corner, but also you can follow news at http://indymedia.dk although there are stupid statements like: firebrigade came to place for sleeping and activists had to go out on winter because firebrigare said that place is not secure for so many people, but firebrigade is not guilty for it. http://indymedia.dk/articles/1489
when I see such statements which are clear protecting of state departments which participate in repression, I am sick of it. there are more such blabla. but if you ignore such parts of news, indymedia give good reports.

Mowgli
17th December 2009, 03:15
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PrmkJoJUqO4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PrmkJoJUqO4)

Grrrr, she's right. It was fucking STUPID as fuck from the first Bloc to just start shooting fireworks at the police. We've blown it this time. And it seems that people started a riot at Christiana, not the cops. Not smart people. There should be a real discussion about tactics, cause this is just random trashing and it's contraproductive.

bcbm
17th December 2009, 03:35
PrmkJoJUqO4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PrmkJoJUqO4)

Grrrr, she's right. It was fucking STUPID as fuck from the first Bloc to just start shooting fireworks at the police. We've blown it this time. And it seems that people started a riot at Christiana, not the cops. Not smart people. There should be a real discussion about tactics, cause this is just random trashing and it's contraproductive.

but there wasn't a huge riot and none of the "civil disobedience" or whatever the hell she's talking about appears to have had an impact on the inside, since the whole thing is on the verge of collapse. cop15 is no different than other summits; if the "developed" countries don't get their way then they sink the whole thing. i don't think fighting the cops is always productive and i think there is a real need for a more developed strategy. however i don't see why we suddenly need to play nice and hope, really hope, that the same people who've been screwing us forever will suddenly stop screwing us because we had a well coordinated civil-disobedience action in the lobby? its absurd.