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Small Geezer
12th December 2009, 08:57
This is an article from a right-libertarian blog ('New Zeal') coupled with another one from the Daily Mail about Soviet infiltration of UK Labour.

Must Read-How the Soviets Controlled the British Labour Party-Lesson for What's Left of the West


Below I reproduce a briiliant article by Sue Reid from the Britain's Daily Mail.

It is a must read for every American, Kiwi, Briton, Australian, Canadian, South Korean, Taiwanese, Japanese, Israeli, South African, European or Latin American who cares about saving and restoring what's left of the West.

The article confirms a major theme of New Zeal (-that the real danger to the West, the real threat of communism and socialism is not terrorists or atom bomb spies.

It is the traitors and stooges who infest the mainstream left-The British Labour Party , New Zealand Labour (http://newzeal.blogspot.com/2008/03/kiwi-spy-who-penetrated-moscow.html), Australian Labor, the Canadian Liberals, Israeli Labor , the South African ANC, the French Socialist Party and most obviously of all, Barck Obama's Democratic Party (http://newzeal.blogspot.com/2009/01/real-secret-of-american-communism.html).

The real secret of socialism is the ability of small cliques (http://newzeal.blogspot.com/2008/11/obama-file-50-communist-party-strategy.html) of foreign directed communists and socialists, to direct, through the union movement, peace movement and other pressure groups and direct infiltration, the policies and direction of the mainstream political parties.

The KGB were always subservient to the Soviet International Department-which answered directly to the Politburo. The international Department were not spies per se-their job was to influence Western public opinion and government policies through infiltration and manipulation of Western institutions-the media (http://newzeal.blogspot.com/2009/11/obama-file-90-alice-palmer-re-examined.html), unions, "peace" movements and most importantly, the mainstream political parties-manly, though not exclusely, those of the left.

This article is historical, but points out that this process has left a legacy.

I go much further-I say the process is ongoing and continues to be directed by the "former" KGB men now in charge in Moscow, the Marxist-Leninist leaders in Beijing, Havana and now Caracas.

From the Daily Mail Online (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1225637/How-Kremlin-hijacked-Labour-Diary-Kremlin-insider-reveals-hold-Soviets-Labour-politicians.html)

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Lancashire blacksmith's son and leader of the Communist Party of Great Britain stood in front of the group of high-flying young Left-wingers at Cambridge University.

Harry Pollitt told them: 'Don't join us. Work hard, get good degrees, join the Establishment and serve our cause from within.'

It was a few years after World War II and they took Pollitt at his word. Within a decade, the Communist Party foundered (its membership peaked at 60,000 in 1945) as Pollitt's bright young devotees infiltrated the Establishment.

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They were soon exercising considerable influence in universities, the state education system, publishing houses, the legal hierarchy and the civil service.

But it was in politics that these high-flying members of the Left established their greatest power-base, both in the Labour Party and the trades' union movement.

Just how deep the tentacles of communism reached into the heart of British government has now been revealed with the emergence of an extraordinary diary by Anatoly Chernyaev, the Soviet Union's contact man with the West at the icy height of the Cold War.

Meticulously detailed and written by hand on lined notepaper, the diary has come to light in the U.S. National Security Archive.

It tells the story of a 'special relationship' not between Britain and America - but between the British Labour Party and Soviet communists.

It was a relationship that lasted more than 30 years, right up to Margaret Thatcher's arrival as Prime Minister in 1979 and beyond.

Indeed, one of the most shocking of the diary's many revelations is how Labour leaders Michael Foot and Neil Kinnock colluded with the Soviet communists to try to beat their 'common enemy', Margaret Thatcher.

But more worrying, perhaps, is the fact that the document shows in stark detail how the political ideology of so many of those who govern us today was shaped by the unspeakable communist creed of the Soviet Union.

The unpalatable truth is that many ministers in Government today rose through the ranks of a British socialist movement that was heavily influenced - and even controlled - by the Kremlin in Moscow.

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Jack Jones at a Labour Party conference

Svetlana Savranskaya, Director of Russia Programmes at the U.S. archive, describes Chernyaev's diary as 'the single most authoritative source on Soviet policy-making in the last 20 years'.

Its explosive contents have only just emerged because the pre-1985 entries remained untranslated until now.

Chernyaev was deputy in the Soviet International Department and later an adviser to President Mikhail Gorbachev. Today, he is 88 and lives in obscurity outside Moscow.

And while many senior members of the Labour Party and union movement will be appalled at his revelations, the old KGB hand himself is delighted his memories are being published.

Transport and General Workers' Union leader Jack Jones - who received effusive praise from Prime Minister Gordon Brown when he died in April this year - was a paid agent for the USSR

Ruefully, he told this week's Spectator magazine, which publishes the diary's contents, that no Russians were interested in his past: 'This great period in the history of our country has been crossed out.'

In Britain, those on the Left who know about the depth of the Soviet influence over this country in the latter half of the 20th century, have maintained an embarrassed silence about this shameful episode in British political history.

Above all, the intimate co-operation between Moscow and the trades unions which nearly brought the country to its knees in the Sixties and Seventies has been an utterly taboo subject.

It is true that tantalising slivers of information have emerged over the years.

As the Mail revealed last month, Transport and General Workers' Union leader Jack Jones - who received effusive praise from Prime Minister Gordon Brown when he died in April this year - was a paid agent for the USSR.

In exchange for information, he used to take cash handouts from his Soviet handler in London, Oleg Gordievsky, even as late as the 1980s.

But this diary reveals that the cosy relationship between the Kremlin and Labour was far more widespread than previously thought - and had been going on for years.

One of the key figures in this murky affair was Ron Hayward, the Labour Party's general secretary between 1972 and 1982, who died in 1996.

He told Chernyaev at meetings in Moscow and London that he was determined to provide a 'genuine socialist government' for Britain.

'To achieve that, he believes he must break the Labour Cabinet,' recorded Chernyaev at the time.

It is clear from the diary that Hayward envisaged a real Soviet-style system in Britain, with the Party General Secretary (ie Hayward himself) - not a Prime Minister selected by MPs - at the very top. He would refer to himself openly as the 'party leader'.

More specifically, he informed the Soviets that he wanted to develop a cadre of young activists to prepare for Communist rule.

'I am the first Labour leader in British history who is not afraid to come out alongside Communists with the same agenda', he said, boasting that he prepared like-minded young people, put them in the right places and helped them to become prominent.

In 1974, when Harold Wilson was Labour Prime Minister, Hayward smuggled Chernyaev into the heart of the Labour Party conference to try to spread the Kremlin's influence still further.

Some of those in the conference hall recognised the Russian - but did not dare admit it. Chernyaev records in his diary how he and Hayward ran into Edward Short, the Labour Party deputy leader who had been with a Labour delegation to Moscow the year before.

'He stared at us for a moment,' Chernyaev writes in the diary, 'then he pretended he did not see us. That is very English. Apparently, he instantly guessed these were Hayward's games.'

Games, of course, they were not. In those years, the Labour Party was tightly controlled (and largely financed) by its affiliated trades unions, which chose dozens of candidates for safe Labour seats.

And it was in the unions where Chernyaev's International Department aimed to infiltrate the deepest.

The regular to-ing and fro-ing between union leaders and Moscow was commonplace - even in 1980 after Mrs Thatcher's Tories were in Government.

That year, the diary says, the TGWU's deputy leader Alec Kitson turned up drunkenly at a meeting with Chernyaev in the Russian capital. He had been drinking with his Soviet trade union counterparts for hours beforehand.

'There was a f*** in every sentence that came out of Kitson's mouth,' the diary records.

But when Kitson sobered up, he and Chernyaev concocted a plan to send a team of Russians to the Scottish TUC conference 'to deliver the Soviet point of view'.

They arranged another brainwashing session with union leaders in London. Later in 1980, in Blackpool in October, Chernyaev openly attended a TGWU-sponsored drinks reception on the eve of the Labour Party conference.

The diary says that Jenny Little, then secretary of the international group of the Labour's National Executive Committee, which oversees policy-making, played a pivotal role in Chernyaev's extraordinary access.

It is clear from the diary that Ron Hayward envisaged a real Soviet-style system in Britain, with the Party General Secretary - not a Prime Minister selected by MPs - at the very top. He would refer to himself openly as the 'party leader'

During the 1980 party conference, 'she tried to sit me down next to Jim Callaghan (the former Prime Minister who was then Labour leader), but he bypassed me as if I was a column. She herself was embarrassed'.

Party leaders such as the donkey-jacketed Michael Foot and the Welshman Neil Kinnock were at times deeply reverential to their Russian 'comrades', the diary reveals.

In 1981, Foot led a big delegation to Moscow, to discuss multilateral disarmament with the Soviet leader Leonid Brezhnev. 'Dear Comrade Brezhnev,' Foot said while holding Brezhnev's hand in both his own.

In December 1984, Kinnock went to Moscow accompanied by, among others, the young Charles Clarke and Patricia Hewitt - both to become ministers in Blair's government - to see Brezhnev's successor, the senile Constantin Chernenko.

Chernenko read his brief to them and listened indifferently to Kinnock's verbose response. However, the Russian promised he would help in the Labour Party's attempts to oust Margaret Thatcher from power.

Chernyaev notes that in 1985, Kinnock again turned to Moscow for support, sending a shadow minister to the Kremlin for advice on how to topple Thatcher, who was in her second term in office.

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Michael Foot (right) with the Labour Party's general secretary Ron Hayward (left)

The diarist recorded: 'We have discussed everything with him. I took it upon myself to promise him everything they wanted from us, to beat Thatcher and get to power.'

It is not just the Left's close connection with the Soviet Union, but the lasting influence of that connection that should concern us all.

One of Jack Jones's brightest proteges, after all, was Gordon Brown.

The decision to give the young Scotsman his first and only safe seat, Dunfermline East, was made by two TGWU senior officials - one of them was Jack Jones, the other the drunken Alec Kitson. Both were friends of the Kremlin.

The union's patronage was ubiquitous. Neil Kinnock and Tony Blair, as well as Cabinet ministers Margaret Beckett, Harriet Harman and John Reid, were all sponsored by TGWU and made their Labour Party careers thanks to it.

The control the Soviets had over Labour, its leadership and aspiring politicians, is still having a profound impact on Britain.

As the Spectator says: 'Indeed, New Labour, which has governed since 1997, cannot be understood unless these communist influences are taken into account.

'Many of New Labour's characteristics - its deep suspicion of outsiders, its structural hostility to democratic debate, its secrecy, its faith in bureaucracy, the embedded preference for striking deals out of the public eye, and its ruthless reliance on a small group of trusted activists, result from the lengthy detente with the Kremlin.'

Yet even with the emergence of this diary, we still do not possess a full picture of how deep the dangerous Moscow penetration really went. Only as more truths trickle out of Russia will we learn the entirety of the betrayal.

As for Harry Pollitt, the British communist who played such a vital role in the Soviet infiltration of this country - encouraging the acquiesence of those in powerful places on the Left - he is better known in Moscow, where he is proclaimed as a hero, than here.

In 1970, some years after his death, the USSR issued a postage stamp with Pollitt's picture on it.

A year later, in 1971, his devotion to the Soviet cause and to the spread of 'international communism' was further acknowledged by Moscow. The Soviet navy launched a new battleship and named it after him.

Meanwhile, his many disciples in the fifth column he created in Britain continue to exert their malign influence.

More from Sue Reid on Jack Jones here (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1218922/JACK-THE-TRAITOR-Special-investigation-reveals-Union-boss-sold-secrets-KGB-45-years.html).

AnthArmo
12th December 2009, 11:36
It's a little sad that Right-wingers are incapable of looking at the world being the nationalistic viewpoint of "Us and Them". its the same old tired logic of "You either support the nation, or your a subversive traitor!"

a little pathetic really

ls
12th December 2009, 11:41
This is a completely pathetic joke of an article, I suppose the miners' strike was thanks to the Soviets as well? :confused: It's ridiculous and you'd do well not to repeat complete misinformation.

robbo203
12th December 2009, 13:17
This is a completely pathetic joke of an article, I suppose the miners' strike was thanks to the Soviets as well? :confused: It's ridiculous and you'd do well not to repeat complete misinformation.


Im sure you're completely right, Is, about this being a pathetic joke of an article. However, I wonder whether the best way to deal with such misinformation is "not to repeat" it. Surely it makes more sense to expose it for the misinformation it is with factual evidence to the contrary. I dont know enough about it - frankly its not a subject that greatly interests me - but perhaps there are others here who can effectively demolish Reids specific claims...

Small Geezer
13th December 2009, 04:28
Yes this is a very weak article. But it does give some insight into how far-right wingers think.

UK Labour has actually been very critical of the Soviet system and the USSR actually prefered to negotiate with conservatives.

Ismail
13th December 2009, 04:57
Here's a fairly good article on the history of the Labour Party vis-à-vis socialism: http://www.oneparty.co.uk/index.html?http%3A//www.oneparty.co.uk/html/slp2.html

Small Geezer
13th December 2009, 07:16
The real secret of socialism is the ability of small cliques (http://www.anonym.to/?http://newzeal.blogspot.com/2008/11/obama-file-50-communist-party-strategy.html) of foreign directed communists and socialists, to direct, through the union movement, peace movement and other pressure groups and direct infiltration, the policies and direction of the mainstream political parties.



Yes that's the real secret of socialism. Not as Karl Marx says 'the emacipation of the workers must be the work of the workers themselves'.

But obviously some Ron Paulite blogger must know more about socialism than one of it's chief founders.

RHIZOMES
16th December 2009, 04:04
That guy profiled me once :lol:

Got him to delete it though by pulling the "hey I'm still in high school please respect my privacy" card.

Nothing he does should be taken seriously, he's one of the biggest propagators on the internet of Obama's supposed "socialist" links. He's up to Obama File #93 and has been invited by to various American Tea Bagger conferences. I miss the days when he'd profile NZ socialists, he was actually a very good resource (and it was funny to laugh at what he got wrong).

These are the type of people who become vice president of the ACT party...

Also he's a member of a Scientology splinter sect (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zenith_Applied_Philosophy), which is sort of a mix between Dianetics and the John Birch Society.

Here's a picture of him with G Gordon Liddy
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Small Geezer
16th December 2009, 09:09
Those two look fucking sinister.

Kwisatz Haderach
16th December 2009, 19:47
The real secret of socialism is the ability of small cliques of foreign directed communists and socialists, to direct, through the union movement, peace movement and other pressure groups and direct infiltration, the policies and direction of the mainstream political parties.
A right-libertarian blog, you say? This paragraph sounds like it came directly from Herr Goebbels' office at the propaganda department of the NSDAP. It is exactly the kind of anti-communist propaganda that fascists love to use above all.

The idea that communists are foreign agents who work in secret to infiltrate political parties, trade unions and state institutions with the goal of doing some harm to the nation (which is never really described, because the mere fact that they are EEBIL COMMIES is considered enough evidence that they are plotting something nefarious) - this is one of the core beliefs of fascism.

So here we have yet another example of the relationship between libertarianism and fascism. Given that the same blog appealed to the white people of the world to resist to imminent tide of communism, I would not be surprised to see them openly endorsing the BNP in the near future - you know, to "save the West" and all that.

Keep in mind that "saving the West" was the motivation behind Operation Barbarossa.

Demogorgon
16th December 2009, 21:28
Is this the same blog that simply referred to Obama as "The Negro" after his election? Certainly I remember seeing a New Zealand based Libertarian blog doing that and this fellow is somewhat obsessed in that direction and is employing fascist rhetoric, so...

Kwisatz Haderach
16th December 2009, 22:29
Fun question to confuse fascists: If all communists are foreign agents, where did the first communists come from?

That's when they either fall silent, or start talking about the global Judeo-Masonic conspiracy.

ls
20th December 2009, 18:24
Im sure you're completely right, Is, about this being a pathetic joke of an article. However, I wonder whether the best way to deal with such misinformation is "not to repeat" it. Surely it makes more sense to expose it for the misinformation it is with factual evidence to the contrary. I dont know enough about it - frankly its not a subject that greatly interests me - but perhaps there are others here who can effectively demolish Reids specific claims...

Yes comrade, I agree, we should also spend hours carefully demolishing these articles y Sue Reid

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-1160143/SUE-REID-The-great-Olympics-jobs-lie-Foreigners-classed-locals-thousands-places-promised-British-workers.html

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-1160143/SUE-REID-The-great-Olympics-jobs-lie-Foreigners-classed-locals-thousands-places-promised-British-workers.html

And her idle-minded celebrity gossip needs refuting too, certainly she is a brilliant author worthy of so much attention and not just a tabloid scoundrel who should never be posted on a self-respecting left site.