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SuicideisPainless
9th December 2002, 18:30
Any other Scottish people post on here? if so where abouts you from I am from Greenock and also what do you think about Tommy Sheridan and the Socialist Party?

Disgustipated
10th December 2002, 20:58
I'm Scottish by lineage, don't live there though....would like to however. Have been over a bunch of times. My grandfather was from Rosehearty. Love that town. Would love to move there. Consider yourself lucky that you don't live in this American shithole. I think there are at least two other real Scots on this site..I believe one of them is Peacenicked and I forget who the other one was.

canikickit
11th December 2002, 00:55
Moloch, McLeodstickle and I think Sugarcandy are all from Scotland. I believe there are also others.

peaccenicked
16th December 2002, 06:15
Glasgow.
To give you an idea of where I stand. This is a recent letter of mine.

Economistic

I have been going over the Scottish question again and find myself returning to previous conclusions and it seems to me the CPGB’s position is not sufficiently thought out. It seems that the GB part of the CPGB has the upper swing.

This concept of a “historically constituted working class” - is there any other sort? The working class is a product of universal capitalist development. Perhaps you need to be more specific here. I don’t like guessing what you mean by it, but perhaps it means the TUC plus the English language. However, I don’t want to confound your vagueness.

You say “separatism would indeed weaken the UK state but also the working class”. This seems to suggest that if it did not weaken the working class then that separatism would be progressive. It is just the type of nationalism that does not weaken the working class that is not progressive. This goes directly to the question. Does it weaken the working class?

Lenin not only recognised the right to secede, but supported campaigning for it - arguing that it strengthened ties between workers. No nation could secede under your conditions because they share the same state. Ireland was once part of the British state. Does a stretch of water make the difference? Or does the presence of the major British trade unions in the Six Counties affect the struggle for a united Ireland?

I think the CPGB is taking an economistic approach. This is a democratic question and surely that should unite workers and not divide them. What divides workers is the chauvinism of the big state. In this case England. To recognise the right to self-determination but to be opposed to campaigning for it seems a tad hypocritical. Lenin did say that not advocating it was a matter of tactics. I can’t see him anywhere actively opposing it.

Paul Anderson

http://www.cpgb.org.uk/worker/456/letters.html

peaccenicked
16th December 2002, 06:18
Excuse me at the moment I am loaded with a head cold.

mcleodstickle
19th December 2002, 17:44
Quote: from canikickit on 12:55 am on Dec. 11, 2002
Moloch, McLeodstickle and I think Sugarcandy are all from Scotland. I believe there are also others.


Im from the (fair?) town of aberdeen. Well really from shetland but ive lived in aberdeen most of my time.