World Cup Draw [Archive]

TheCultofAbeLincoln

4th December 2009, 22:29

Yeah, the US is in the same group, and it's funny to consider the US one of the top teams in the group. The opening match against England shuld be good, but there's no excuses for American soccer if they don't make it to the knockout rounds, at least.

I have to say, I can't ever remeber the US getting a better draw than this one.

Sasha

4th December 2009, 22:34

japan, kamaroen, denmark.

if they dont survive the first round it would be an discrace.

Vanguard1917

5th December 2009, 00:42

Group G looks good. Closest to a 'group of death' we're gonna get, with Brazil, Portugal and Drogba.

Chicano Shamrock

5th December 2009, 05:46

England are gonna fucking walk through our group
They might be able to walk through Slovenia and Algeria. The US, not so much. It will be a hard match for both of us, I think it will be a draw or a possible win for the USA. I don't see England doing what Spain couldn't.

Il Medico

5th December 2009, 06:08

Italy has got to have the easiest group.

Wanted Man

5th December 2009, 07:03

Well, so much for the story that South Africa would be getting an easy group; two of their competitors are simply much better.

I'm pleased with the group that the Netherlands is in. Not ridiculously easy, but not the group of death either. A group that will hopefully see some decent football.

The group with Brazil, Korea DPR, Cote d'Ivoire and Portugal is definitely the most interesting one.

RedAnarchist

5th December 2009, 11:26

My predictions. Personally, I think England and Spain will do well in the tournament -

Group Stages

Group A Qualifiers - Winners France, Runner Up Mexico
Group B Qualifiers - Winners Argentina, Runner Up Nigeria
Group C Qualifiers - Winners England, Runner Up USA
Group D Qualifiers - Winners Germany, Runner Up Australia
Group E Qualifiers - Winners Netherlands, Runner Up Japan
Group F Qualifiers - Winners Italy, Runners Up Paraguay
Group G Qualifiers - Winners Brazil, Runners Up Ivory Coast
Group H Qualifiers - Winners Spain, Runners Up Chile

Round of 16

Game 1 - France beat Nigeria
Game 2 - England beat Australia
Game 3 - Netherlands beat Paraguay
Game 4 - Brazil beat Chile
Game 5 - Argentina beat Mexico
Game 6 - Germany beat USA
Game 7 - Italy beat Japan
Game 8 - Spain beat Ivory Coast

Quarter-Finals

Game 1 - England beat France
Game 2 - Brazil beat Netherlands
Game 3 - Argentina beat Germany
Game 4 - Spain beat Italy

Semi-Finals

Game 1 - England beat Brazil
Game 2 - Spain beat Argentina

Final

Game 0 - England beat Spain

Holden Caulfield

5th December 2009, 12:02

They might be able to walk through Slovenia and Algeria. The US, not so much. It will be a hard match for both of us, I think it will be a draw or a possible win for the USA. I don't see England doing what Spain couldn't.

If we cannot beat the USA it will be down to our own shitness. There is nothing to fear from the US and if there is we should go home now. Our team is from Man U, Chelsea, Liverpool, etc and yours... not so much

Bandito

5th December 2009, 12:13

Serbia got Ghana, Australia and Germany.
Thank you, Charlise!:)

R_P_A_S

6th December 2009, 01:45

Bandito

6th December 2009, 02:14

Be realistic.
USA is bound to beat Algeria and Slovenia.
I'm an England fan myself on this tournament, but I don't think that they will win the US game that easily. Win, probably. Easy, hell no. US is got one fucking good team at the moment, a team that I would not even compare to the squad they had at the last World Cup.

R_P_A_S

6th December 2009, 02:16

GatesofLenin

6th December 2009, 05:48

England will find a way to mess up again. Netherlands is winning the cup! :tt2:

Holden Caulfield

6th December 2009, 11:42

Group G looks good. Closest to a 'group of death' we're gonna get, with Brazil, Portugal and Drogba.

haha. I think all communist should start refering to North Korea as 'we' from now on. It is our revolutionary duty!

Bandito

6th December 2009, 12:34

Interesting fact-it has never happened that the host of the World Cup doesn't make it through the group stages.

So I think that France could easily lose their position at the top of Group A, especially if they hang on to that idiot Domenech.
Group B is great. Every team can beat anyone, but I still think Argentina will finish at the top. Second, I recon it would be Nigeria.
As for Group C, no problems there. England and USA are going to the last sixteen.
Group D. Tough one to call. Germany has problems, especially in the attack, where are aging Klose, turbulent Podolski and Gomez, who never proved his quality in the national team. But, they are the favourites for the #1 position. Second place will be a fight between Serbia and Ghana, and I'm not giving Australians that much of a chance there.
Group E, easy. Cameroon and Netherlands.
I'm not even going to reffer to the Italian group as "Group F". Paraguay second?
As some see the group G as "group of death", I don't. Brazil and Ivory Coast will prevail, no doubt.I think Portugal will be the Tournament's flop.
Group H, no questions asked. Spain and Chile.

That would be Bandito's recapitulation.

Chicano Shamrock

6th December 2009, 13:57

I think the USA will choke.. once again. Yes I don't like the team. Damn kick a long ball to see what happens and sit back 85mins of the match. lame! Oh well It has worked for them against our poor conference.

Algeria will beat the USA simply because the Americans will feel they are better and Algeria will take advantage. Same case will apply for Slovenia. England.. I mean no need for me to guess here. It's not 1930. Back then Mongolia was consider a decent football team.
Aren't you in LA? I ought to go looking around for you and smash your face:thumbdown::tt2:

Let me guess you are another American that goes for Mexico?:laugh:

I don't know what you mean by "choke...once again". If you are referring to 2006 we had a tough group. We were the only team that Italy didn't beat. Ghana and the Czechs are pretty good and on the day better than us. Shit happens. We are better now.

I don't see England walking all over us. Rumors are going around that the Revolutionary War part 2 is about to go down. I heard Donovan is going to wear an IRA bandana on his arm! LOL

Chicano Shamrock

6th December 2009, 14:06

If we cannot beat the USA it will be down to our own shitness. There is nothing to fear from the US and if there is we should go home now. Our team is from Man U, Chelsea, Liverpool, etc and yours... not so much
I was talking up Team Freedom before the confederations cup and everyone thought I was crazy. Ok.... well no one paid attention but still.

Be careful to get your hopes up. Everyone knows that England is no Spain and look what we did to them. Look at Portugal 2002. If they underestimate us we can make a nation cry.

Yeah well, our team is from LA Galaxy, Houston Dynamo, AGF Aarhus, Sochaux, Borussia Mönchengladbach, Club América, Pachuca etc... Watch the fuck out son!

Devrim

7th December 2009, 16:15

USA is bound to beat Algeria and Slovenia.

I wouldn't be so sure. I listened to a Slovenian journalist on the radio the other day, and they seem quite confident that they are going through. Reading the Algerian press, they also think that they are in with a good chance.

I have seen the Algerian team play and they seem all-right. Going back a few years, I seem to remember the coach of Germany saying that he would jump into the Mediterranean Sea if Algeria beat them. They did. He didn't.

I think that there has been a vast narrowing in the gap in recent years. Yes, England should qualify from that group, but then they have a propensity for screwing it up when it matters. I don't think anyone outside of the UK seriously imagines that England are at all contenders to win the World Cup.

Devrim

Wanted Man

7th December 2009, 16:53

In a lot of countries that haven't won in ages, the (national) media still often consider their own team major candidates. This is true for England and the Netherlands, especially. It's pure arrogance: we invented (an attacking brand of) football, so we'll show them how it's done. The reality is usually a little different. During the last two tournaments, for instance, the Netherlands were first eliminated by Portugal in a really silly way, and then completely outclassed by Russia. England also seem to have some bad history with Portugal. ;)

I would be very surprised if a country other than Brazil, Spain, Italy or Germany were to win the title.

Devrim

7th December 2009, 17:05

In a lot of countries that haven't won in ages, the (national) media still often consider their own team major candidates. This is true for England and the Netherlands, especially.

I don't think many people on here were alive when England won the World Cup, let alone were old enough to remember it. The Netherlands have never actually won it.

Devrim

Bandito

7th December 2009, 17:26

Wanted Man

7th December 2009, 18:44

The Netherlands have never actually won it.

Thanks for the info, I wasn't aware of that yet... Fair enough though, it should have said "a lot of countries that haven't won in ages or have never won at all". The point of grouping them together is that in both cases, they tend to expect a lot from the national team, without much recent history to base it on.

I respect your reasoning, but my money is still on Brazil.
They look magnificent.

Well, I did name Brazil. Out of the four that I named, Germany is probably the weakest at the moment, while Brazil and Spain are both very good. As for Italy, well, we all know how it is with them.

Pogue

7th December 2009, 18:46

Stranger Than Paradise

7th December 2009, 18:53

Holland - Spain final would be glorious.

England to get knocked out in Semi final.

I think one of the African teams will do really well.

Pogue

7th December 2009, 18:57

Nothing matters except that Henry gets his legs broken in a devastating tackle from one of France's former colonies, like Algeria.

Luisrah

7th December 2009, 18:58

I think another England - Portugal would be great.
Specially if it were the final.

And Portugal would win in the penalties again HAHAHA :laugh: :tt2:

Pogue

7th December 2009, 18:58

As long as England knock Portugal out nothing else matters.

Luisrah

7th December 2009, 19:10

As long as England knock Portugal out nothing else matters.

Exactly, but that's the problem heehee.

Last two times Portugal and England played, Portugal won in the penalties.

Pogue

7th December 2009, 19:13

Exactly, but that's the problem heehee.

Last two times Portugal and England played, Portugal won in the penalties.

Don't remind me :thumbdown:

Luisrah

7th December 2009, 19:15

Portugal would win in the penalties again HAHAHA :laugh: :tt2:

That's what I was saying hehe :D

Stranger Than Paradise

7th December 2009, 20:03

Nothing matters except that Henry gets his legs broken in a devastating tackle from one of France's former colonies, like Algeria.

Thats rude, do you say that because he cheated?

Pogue

7th December 2009, 20:03

Thats rude, do you say that because he cheated?

Yes, because he cheated and only admitted it when he realised it was so fucking obvious.

Stranger Than Paradise

7th December 2009, 20:27

Yes, because he cheated and only admitted it when he realised it was so fucking obvious.

But Drogba never admits to diving, he should get worse shouldn't he?

Chicano Shamrock

7th December 2009, 23:29

Haha you have to be joking!
Not at all. You see England as better than Spain? It all depends how the day goes. If we are "on" that day England won't win.

Dr. Rosenpenis

8th December 2009, 02:58

In Mexico in 1970, Brazil played its first match against Czechoslovakia. This was in the midst the infamous "years of lead" of the military dictatorship. The government had replaced Brazil's beloved coach João Saldanha for Zagallo because the former was a communist militant. He was also a great coach who led Brazil through its best qualification campaign ever. Every self respecting Brazilian socialist was cheering for Czechoslovakia, against the Brazilian national team of the military regime.
Next year, Brazil will play its first match against North Korea.
Fortunately, however, this time the government won't turn our world cup victory into nationalist right-wing propaganda. Yes, Brazil will win the world cup. :)

R_P_A_S

8th December 2009, 03:30

Aren't you in LA? I ought to go looking around for you and smash your face:thumbdown::tt2:

Let me guess you are another American that goes for Mexico?:laugh:

I don't know what you mean by "choke...once again". If you are referring to 2006 we had a tough group. We were the only team that Italy didn't beat. Ghana and the Czechs are pretty good and on the day better than us. Shit happens. We are better now.

I don't see England walking all over us. Rumors are going around that the Revolutionary War part 2 is about to go down. I heard Donovan is going to wear an IRA bandana on his arm! LOL

Nah I'm a Mexican who likes Mexico. I tried not to like them after their many disgraceful showings. but I can't help it.

Chicano Shamrock

8th December 2009, 11:04

Nah I'm a Mexican who likes Mexico. I tried not to like them after their many disgraceful showings. but I can't help it.
LOL who's your local team? Fuck all your fake blood-line bullshit. Who comes from Southern California Bocanegra and Donovan or Marquez and Dos Santos. :cool: With all due respect Mexico are pretty good.

... at getting knocked out of the World Cup by the USA 2-Nil.

Redmau5

8th December 2009, 18:44

I'll be supporting whoever is playing England.

Stranger Than Paradise

8th December 2009, 19:04

I'll be supporting whoever is playing England.

Same :)

PRC-UTE

8th December 2009, 23:42

I'll be supporting whoever is playing England.

:D

aside from the England games I'll be watching Portugal and Spain closely.

Holden Caulfield

8th December 2009, 23:45

I'll be supporting whoever is playing England.

Traitor!

God save the Queen, du du du du duuuuuuu send her victorious, happy and glorious, something something somethiiiiiiiiing God save the Queen

Dr. Rosenpenis

9th December 2009, 00:59

I'll be supporting whoever is playing England.

only watch England matches then?

Devrim

9th December 2009, 10:22

I'll be supporting whoever is playing England.only watch England matches then?

I will just watch the England matches, and probably the final as well, as its the World Cup final. Turkey aren't in the finals, which means the country won't go mental, and nobody will be shooting children, which is obviously a positive thing, but it will be a bit more low key here.

I have an English friend who I generally watch the English matches in major tournaments with, who has a talent for the unfortunate statement, my favourite one being "One nil up with a minute to go we will be OK now" during the France match in the European Championship in Portugal, just before Zidane steeped up and put away two goals. It is more fun when there is somebody to mock, and England are eminantly mockable.

That said the level of nationalism that emerges during these tournaments is something I do find disturbing. It is particularly bad here. It really puts me off. The quality isn't as good as the Champions League anyway.

In Mexico in 1970, Brazil played its first match against Czechoslovakia. This was in the midst the infamous "years of lead" of the military dictatorship. The government had replaced Brazil's beloved coach João Saldanha for Zagallo because the former was a communist militant. He was also a great coach who led Brazil through its best qualification campaign ever. Every self respecting Brazilian socialist was cheering for Czechoslovakia, against the Brazilian national team of the military regime.
Next year, Brazil will play its first match against North Korea.
Fortunately, however, this time the government won't turn our world cup victory into nationalist right-wing propaganda. Yes, Brazil will win the world cup. :)

It doesn't matter who is in power. Governments will try to use it to make people forget the crisis.

Devrim

Dr. Rosenpenis

9th December 2009, 13:26

I don't think so...
first, it does matter who's in power
the military regime murdered and tortured tens of thousands of suspected political dissenters with no due process
among many other evil measures used to control the population, like use the world cup victory and Pelé to defend their violent rule
From what I recall from 94 and 02, the government didn't have to do anything whatsoever so divert peoples' attention towards footall and away from economics:lol:

Stranger Than Paradise

9th December 2009, 18:31

Sad Turkey aren't in it. They were one of my favourite teams in the European Championships.

Guerrilla22

11th December 2009, 07:29

The US will choke.

rednordman

13th December 2009, 17:26

England seriously need to keep their feet on the ground and say focused. Yes it very easy to say that they should piss the group when you look at the obscure names in the group (in the football world, that is). Imo, Slovenia are going to be no push-overs.

They are total underdogs and thus, have nothing to loose. They also have a history of being surprises at tornaments. I remember the last Euro champs they where in. Similar things could also be said about Algeria too (although i do think, that they are most likely the easiest game)

I do find it funny how all the soccer pundits have arrogantly labelled the USA as the hardest game (yes they still think the USA have a rubbish side) in what they see as a piss easy group. I never works like that.

I really do believe that England have the best chance in ages of actually winning the world cup, BUT they will have to take each game at a time and definitly not underestimate their opponents.

Red Rebel

14th December 2009, 21:31

I'm converting to Juche if the DPRK gets out of the group stage.

My heart is with the USA but my money is with Germany. I don't expect anything from the USA national team so they can only suprise me.

Pogue

14th December 2009, 21:50

chelsea will win it

Wanted Man

14th December 2009, 22:20

Okay, you guys are not going to believe this: North Korea have offered Guus Hiddink the job as manager for the World Cup! However, Hiddink refused out of respect for Russia; he did not feel that it would be fair to Russia to appear in South Africa for another country after his failure to qualify.

This was revealed just an hour ago in a football talk show here. They went on to say that the South Koreans had already said that they would not mind, as it would be a step towards reunification. The people in the studio speculated that if Hiddink had taken the job, they might have built him a statue in the DMZ. :lol:

A.J.

8th January 2010, 15:17

England v USA

Tough one to call. I don't know who I hate more. :confused:

Chicano Shamrock

10th January 2010, 04:59

England v USA

Tough one to call. I don't know who I hate more. :confused:
I don't know what you would have to hate about team USA. I mean the reason I don't like England is because their fans think they are unreasonably good which they never are. USA fans know we aren't the best but we know that on any given day our guys have enough heart to put anyone out with a bit of luck.

Unfortunately our secret weapon Landon Donovan schooled Arsenal today in his first PL game after only training with Everton for 5 days before. Hopefully the snow turned out everyones TV's and our secret is still safe.

A.J.

14th January 2010, 13:54

I don't know what you would have to hate about team USA. I mean the reason I don't like England is because their fans think they are unreasonably good which they never are. USA fans know we aren't the best but we know that on any given day our guys have enough heart to put anyone out with a bit of luck.

Unfortunately our secret weapon Landon Donovan schooled Arsenal today in his first PL game after only training with Everton for 5 days before. Hopefully the snow turned out everyones TV's and our secret is still safe.

I meant, I don't which country I hate more. I wasn't specifically referring to the respective national football teams of England and the USA.

Invader Zim

14th January 2010, 14:10

England will find a way to mess up again. Netherlands is winning the cup! :tt2:

This.

On paper England should do well, but I have full faith (from years of being let down) in England's ability, against all the odds, to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

Invader Zim

14th January 2010, 14:19

I think another England - Portugal would be great.
Specially if it were the final.

And Portugal would win in the penalties again HAHAHA :laugh: :tt2:

I could live with that provided that Gerrard uses his mean-ass brawling skills, which he has honed in the clubs of Southport, to break Ronaldo's nose. Actually, I'm being picky, Gerrard, or any other player for that matter, can break any of Ronaldo's bones or organs.

Its just a pity that we just don't have thuggery of Roy Keane's stature in the team.

Wanted Man

14th January 2010, 14:42

In that case, you should campaign for Capello to call up Joey Barton. The main difference is that Roy Keane was also a fantastic player, Barton not so much. :p But at least, if you get eliminated in the quarter-finals, he will intimidate all his team-mates to prevent them from cashing in with auto-biographies, like after the last World Cup. 'We got beat in the quarter-finals. I played like shit. Here's my book.' :lol:

Anyway, I really can't agree with the suggestion that the Netherlands will win while England will shoot themselves in the foot. We are at least as good as doing that, so we will both probably be eliminated before the semis.