Four officers killed in Washington state, USA

[Guevaraist Insurgent]

anyone have any news

[Sasha]

fuck off idiot....

although we reject the exsitence of an policeforce and view it as an inherently reactionary organisation we do not bask in the senseless slaying of 4 people, all leaving kids behind, sitting down for an coffee by deranged childmolester who believes he is jezus.

the guy who did it is dead, good riddance, nuffsaid, back to buisness

[Holden Caulfield]

^ You summed it up well, have some rep

[mosfeld]

Pigs deserved it. Liberals will probably come in here crying about how they were innocent working class heroes or something, completely ignoring the fact that pigs defend ruling class interests and that American pigs have a history of remorseless racist attacks, particularly against blacks (Oscar Grant anyone?). Although the shooter probably didn't have any revolutionary aspirations, he keeps up the spirit of resistance and deserves respect for that.

[Spawn of Stalin]

fuck off idiot....

although we reject the exsitence of an policeforce and view it as an inherently reactionary organisation we do not bask in the senseless slaying of 4 people, all leaving kids behind, sitting down for an coffee by deranged childmolester who believes he is jezus.

the guy who did it is dead, good riddance, nuffsaid, back to buisness
So it's good that the child molester died, but not the reactionary capitalist police officers? Don't get me wrong, I despise paedophiles and actually advocate the death penalty for such disgusting people, but cops are just as sick. These are the people who beat, frame, and murder working class members of our societies for no reason.

[Sasha]

murdering unsuspecting people sitting down for their morning coffee only because they are police is dumb, counterproductive, cruel, stupid and will acomplish nothing but sympathy for cops.

funny how if an stupid religous childmollester shoots cops all the ant-impies come out in force to celebrate.
when stupid (!!) greek anarchist insurectionist shoot cops out of retaliation for the murder of an kid the anti-impies come out in force to condemn.
nice to know your priorities are so firmly behind sectarianism.

by the way, there is an difrence between peadophiles and childmolesters, while some B are A (actualy most child rapist are sadist not peadhophiles) most A are not B. calling for the deathpenalty for peadophiles is idiot. but thats for another thread.

[Glenn Beck]

fuck off idiot....

although we reject the exsitence of an policeforce and view it as an inherently reactionary organisation we do not bask in the senseless slaying of 4 people, all leaving kids behind, sitting down for an coffee by deranged childmolester who believes he is jezus.

the guy who did it is dead, good riddance, nuffsaid, back to buisness

Saying "good riddance" to a bunch of cops: Disgusting irresponsible violence fetishism, horrible horrible intolerable life-hating stalinist filth

Saying "good riddance" to a criminal shot by police: Responsible, dignified, progressive, logical, intelligent and principled leftist

[New Tet]

fuck off idiot....

although we reject the exsitence of an policeforce and view it as an inherently reactionary organisation we do not bask in the senseless slaying of 4 people, all leaving kids behind, sitting down for an coffee by deranged childmolester who believes he is jezus.

the guy who did it is dead, good riddance, nuffsaid, back to buisness

Even the guy who [allegedly] shot the cops is/was in need of compassion, protection and restraint. He too had a mother, a father and possibly children who will somehow be affected by this tragedy.

He had recently become a political football when it was disclosed in the media (too soon or too late) that he had previously been pardoned by then-Governor of Arkansas Mike Huckabee. He had been freed of a 95-year sentence for some kind grand larceny or fraud (a poor, black Madoff perhaps?].

Considering the present state of capitalist intrigue amongst the north American bourgeoisie, I would suspect that he was in danger of becoming a political liability for some powerful enough to do him in.

Vain speculation, no doubt.

[Sam_b]

funny how if an stupid religous childmollester shoots cops all the ant-impies come out in force to celebrate.
when stupid (!!) greek anarchist insurectionist shoot cops out of retaliation for the murder of an kid the anti-impies come out in force to condemn.

Okay, i'll bite. What has this got to do with anti-imperialism?

[scarletghoul]

Yeah, Psycho's view on this is inconcistent and reactionary.
However much I disapprove of this man's sexual actions, I appreciate his help in getting this pig filth off our streets.

[New Tet]

murdering unsuspecting people sitting down for their morning coffee only because they are police is dumb, counterproductive, cruel, stupid and will acomplish nothing but sympathy for cops.


It would have been okay if they had been gunned down over a bowl of oatmeal. I hate oatmeal.

[Sasha]

@ newtet: no he got 95 years for an string of violent acts.
he was granted (rightly) pardon because he was only seventeen when convicted (although huckabee seems to be more influenced by the fact that he was an member of an baptist church he needed support from than humanitarian reasons).
the whole huckabee thing only came out after he went out killing cops so your conspiracy theory is worthless already.

and this
and possibly children who will somehow be affected by this tragedy.

yes, they will be affected tremendously by the fact that they dont have to get up on sunday extremly early to pray NAKED with their daddy who thought he was the son of god and raped their niece.

anyway, my whole post whas ment to say STUPID PERSON DOES SOMMETHING STUPID, notting worth celebrating.

want an worth while analysis of an aspect of what hapend here to discuss?
http://slog.thestranger.com/slog/archives/2009/11/30/oreillyss-dishonesty

lots more info on what hapend (from an admitetly very liberal perspective):
http://slog.thestranger.com

[Soldier of life]

So it's good that the child molester died, but not the reactionary capitalist police officers? Don't get me wrong, I despise paedophiles and actually advocate the death penalty for such disgusting people, but cops are just as sick. These are the people who beat, frame, and murder working class members of our societies for no reason.

I wouldn't say all cops are 'sick'. Police are the agents of an oppressive state, yes. Much like British and American soldiers are the agents of Brit and Yankee imperialism. This is logical, calling them 'sick' and lumping them in with peadophiles who may have a psychological disorder does the argument no favours at all, like it or lump it the vast majority of people see the cops in a legitimate light in many countries, therefore when we approach this question we should keep that in mind when formulating a strategy to fight this.

[Sasha]

Okay, i'll bite. What has this got to do with anti-imperialism?

i would say nothing but the anti-impies (again, this doesnt refer to all anti-imperialists, its an common term under dutch actvists for mugabe/ayatholla suporting idiots) in this thread seem to think this was an briliant action bringing the world revolution closer.

(remember that thread on that other religious idiot who hijacked an airline wich had also this same kind of idiots coming out to celebrate)

[Holden Caulfield]

^ and I though Anarchists were the ones who got it in the neck for propaganda of the deed.
Now you get it in the neck for not support propaganda of the deed (even tho the deed is by somebody who doesnt deserve life)

I'll set myself up as the hate figure. I'ld rather hear of the guy being shot by the cops than the other way around. Cops (secondary) function in society is to stop fucking scum like that

[New Tet]

Okay, i'll bite. What has this got to do with anti-imperialism?

It's the Geekanarchs vs. the Antyimpies. Soon to be a major motion picture.

[Spawn of Stalin]

I wouldn't say all cops are 'sick'. Police are the agents of an oppressive state, yes. Much like British and American soldiers are the agents of Brit and Yankee imperialism. This is logical, calling them 'sick' and lumping them in with peadophiles who may have a psychological disorder does the argument no favours at all, like it or lump it the vast majority of people see the cops in a legitimate light in many countries, therefore when we approach this question we should keep that in mind when formulating a strategy to fight this.
Like it or lump it the vast majority of people do not see socialist revolution in a legitimate light in many countries. We fight an uphill struggle which doesn't always necessarily tie in with what the majority think they want, they will change their minds, but we do not have to change our positions. Most, and when I say most I don't mean 60-70%, I mean 95-99%, American cops sign up because they want to protect the great system which has given them flashy cars, gold wristwatches, and countless credit cards, they exist only to protect the state, and to protect property, since we seek to abolish both in their current forms, I see no reason to weep over a couple of dead cops. They could be having a Starbucks or firing on a black kid, doing their laundry or beating on a political activist, a cop is a cop, and a cop is a wanker.

[Dimentio]

anyone have any news

http://yovia.com/blogs/davidappelman/files/2009/10/troll-web.jpg

[Soldier of life]

Like it or lump it the vast majority of people do not see socialist revolution in a legitimate light in many countries. We fight an uphill struggle which doesn't always necessarily tie in with what the majority think they want, they will change their minds, but we do not have to change our positions. Most, and when I say most I don't mean 60-70%, I mean 95-99%, American cops sign up because they want to protect the great system which has given them flashy cars, gold wristwatches, and countless credit cards, they exist only to protect the state, and to protect property, since we seek to abolish both in their current forms, I see no reason to weep over a couple of dead cops. They could be having a Starbucks or firing on a black kid, doing their laundry or beating on a political activist, a cop is a cop, and a cop is a wanker.

I didnt say we should change our position, so please don't imply it. Nor did I question the true role the cops play in relation to the bourgeois state apparatus.

What I am saying is that in many countries people see capitalist policing as legitimate, this is a fact. And I think that openly calling cops 'sick' and lumping them in the same category as peadophiles does not exactly aid our task of educating the workers as to the true role the police,army etc have in relation to the state and their exploitation.

I think rational explanations are a lot more productive, with factual examples forwarded showing the way police forces work etc would be a lot more productive from our point of view then going around calling cops 'sick'. Quite a simple notion I would have thought.

[New Tet]

@ newtet: no he got 95 years for an string of violent acts.
he was granted (rightly) pardon because he was only seventeen when convicted (although huckabee seems to be more influenced by the fact that he was an member of an baptist church he needed support from than humanitarian reasons).
the whole huckabee thing only came out after he went out killing cops so your conspiracy theory is worthless already.

and this

yes, they will be affected tremendously by the fact that they dont have to get up on sunday extremly early to pray NAKED with their daddy who thought he was the son of god and raped their niece.

anyway, my whole post whas ment to say STUPID PERSON DOES SOMMETHING STUPID, notting worth celebrating.

want an worth while analysis of an aspect of what hapend here to discuss?
http://slog.thestranger.com/slog/archives/2009/11/30/oreillyss-dishonesty

lots more info on what hapend (from an admitetly very liberal perspective):
http://slog.thestranger.com

Where it involves the livelihood and reputation of the powerful, I take every piece of propaganda with a good dose of salt.

That's not to say that the whole scenario as presented in the media is entirely false or merely in the service of political repute, no. But after the manufactured Willy Horton scandal, who knows anymore, right?

[The Feral Underclass]

http://yovia.com/blogs/davidappelman/files/2009/10/troll-web.jpg

Don't post pictures like this in political forums. You've already been warned about this before. If you do it again, anywhere on the forum, you'll receive and infraction.

[Guevaraist Insurgent]

btw the crime spree he got 100 years for at 17 was for burgalry theft and robbery, not sex charges, he is accused of rape, coincidently after he punched a cop this year.

[Spawn of Stalin]

I didnt say we should change our position, so please don't imply it. Nor did I question the true role the cops play in relation to the bourgeois state apparatus.

What I am saying is that in many countries people see capitalist policing as legitimate, this is a fact. And I think that openly calling cops 'sick' and lumping them in the same category as peadophiles does not exactly aid our task of educating the workers as to the true role the police,army etc have in relation to the state and their exploitation.

I think rational explanations are a lot more productive, with factual examples forwarded showing the way police forces work etc would be a lot more productive from our point of view then going around calling cops 'sick'. Quite a simple notion I would have thought.
No, I do agree, but we're all supposedly revolutionaries here, I don't need to explain why I don't like cops, or why cops are no good for the working class, because we all know why cops exist and that what they do is wrong. My attitude towards cops is never going to change, I was raised to dislike them and my feelings towards them have only grown stronger with every Oscar Grant/Jean Charles de Menezes/Ian Tomlinson, but believe me, I wouldn't use the same language towards non-socialist working class people, they need education, not emotion fuelled statements like "all cops are bastards", regardless of how true these statements undeniably are.

[cameron222]

It would have been okay if they had been gunned down over a bowl of oatmeal. I hate oatmeal.

this reminds me of goldilocks and the three bears.
except, goldilocks is a male pedophile that thinks its jesus.

[New Tet]

this reminds me of goldilocks and the three bears.
except, goldilocks is a male pedophile that thinks its jesus.

Like this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1xrNaTO1bI
?

[Schrödinger's Cat]

Pigs deserved it. Liberals will probably come in here crying about how they were innocent working class heroes or something, completely ignoring the fact that pigs defend ruling class interests and that the OPD has a history of remorseless racist attacks, particularly against blacks (Oscar Grant anyone?). Although the shooter probably didn't have any revolutionary aspirations, he keeps up the spirit of resistance and deserves respect for that.

You just defended a woman abuser and child rapist because he shot cops while they were eating breakfast. Wow.

[Guevaraist Insurgent]

you have spongebob square pants as your avatar while anting to be taken seriously.
wow.:)

[Schrödinger's Cat]

I'm slightly confused on all the heroic attributions. I don't see any of you driving down the neighborhood traffic cop. Why the cowardice? Could it be that you secretly realize how utterly stupid it is to defend murder against cops regardless of their history or current activities?


you have spongebob square pants as your avatar while anting to be taken seriously.

Defending rapists/wife abusers ~ having a Spongebob avatar...

[Guevaraist Insurgent]

sponge bob treats that purple thing like a punk.
hes a sadist

[Spawn of Stalin]

I'm slightly confused on all the heroic attributions. I don't see any of you driving down the neighborhood traffic cop. Why the cowardice? Could it be that you secretly realize how utterly stupid it is to defend murder against cops regardless of their history or current activities?
We are waiting for the revolution, then we will line them all up underneath a picture of Stalin and then, well, you know.

[Guevaraist Insurgent]

i will be tying up pouring petrol accidently dropping lighter then having an orgasm

[Soldier of life]

No, I do agree, but we're all supposedly revolutionaries here, I don't need to explain why I don't like cops, or why cops are no good for the working class, because we all know why cops exist and that what they do is wrong. My attitude towards cops is never going to change, I was raised to dislike them and my feelings towards them have only grown stronger with every Oscar Grant/Jean Charles de Menezes/Ian Tomlinson, but believe me, I wouldn't use the same language towards non-socialist working class people, they need education, not emotion fuelled statements like "all cops are bastards", regardless of how true these statements undeniably are.

Agreed.

[bcbm]

completely ignoring the fact that pigs defend ruling class interests and that the OPD has a history of remorseless racist attacks, particularly against blacks (Oscar Grant anyone?).

the cops shot weren't opd, this happened in washington.


Although the shooter probably didn't have any revolutionary aspirations, he keeps up the spirit of resistance and deserves respect for that.

he's dead, four of his friends/relatives are already arrested and facing very serious charges that will send them to prison for decades and two to three more are being sought for similar charges. viva la resistance.

[Robocommie]

Defending rapists/wife abusers ~ having a Spongebob avatar...


Sponge Bob is reactionary swine! When the revolution comes, his spongy ass will be the first one up against the wall! He shall soak up the justice of the people with his briny, absorbent body!

[mosfeld]

the cops shot weren't opd, this happened in washington. Excuse me, got that case from.. march mixed up. But the same racist history applies to pigs all over the USA anyways, so it doesn't matter whether it's the LAPD, OPD, BPD etc. Thanks for correcting me, though.


btw the crime spree he got 100 years for at 17 was for burgalry theft and robbery, not sex charges, he is accused of rape, coincidently after he punched a cop this year. Where'd you read this?

[The Feral Underclass]

Like this:

u1xrNaTO1bI
?

You're not allowed to post spam videos in political discussions. Please don't do it again. Consider this a verbal warning.

[Dimentio]

Move. Thread. Chit. Chat.

[Sasha]

this was BTW in the STATE of washington (seatle etc) not the city.
but i guess that just shows how people here are shooting their mouth without getting even the most basic of facts.

[the last donut of the night]

Yeah, Psycho's view on this is inconcistent and reactionary.
However much I disapprove of this man's sexual actions, I appreciate his help in getting this pig filth off our streets.

And yet still, more pigs are to come...

The idea that prevails here that killing a cop for no reason is revolutionary is not reactionary, it's stupid. Why?

Because by that logic, a drug dealer killing a bourgeois teenager who didn't pay his crack money is revolutionary. Sure, a rich person is dead, but have the workers gotten anything of it? No. In fact, due to this, the right-wing will sweep up mindless hysteria which will give some support to their racist, anti-drug views. Hell, if they get hold that some leftists support it, even better, now we'll be labeled as senseless murderers. This case in particular will just arouse more cop-loving emotions; the same happens here in New York when a pig is killed and the most reactionary elements of the city crawl out to attend the funeral.

Not that I really care what the right-wing thinks. But at least here, in the US, the right wing has made itself right at home with the proletariat, especially the proletariat. Many workers here think that communism equals an evil dictatorship by a black president.

The first step to winning them over to our side is stopping the right-wing in all of its arguments. The situation for the left here is so bad that, unfortunately, we must always try our best to look almost saintly to the workers. This is a country where Joe Lieberman is seen as a dangerous leftist by some.

This is a country where some people believe that a very watered down form of health-care will institute communism, and force every woman to get an abortion.:rolleyes:

[Glenn Beck]

Individual terrorism is politically worthless and this isn't even that, its a random crime. Calling it resistance only makes sense in maybe a sociological sense. That should just be settled. If people have such hatred for the cops hearing about dead cops makes them glad then whatever, I don't feel that way about police but I do about soldiers so I can relate, as long as its just a sentiment and not a political doctrine because then you are entering into the realm of adventurism and propaganda of the deed which is shit. What annoys me is people like psycho and HC cheering on police shooting a hated criminal, especially a black man considering the mythology in this country about "cop-killers" and the lynch mob mentality associated with that. It's disgusting, don't fucking do it.

[RedAnarchist]

Move. Thread. Chit. Chat.

I agree.

Moved.

[Holden Caulfield]

I am a disgusting individual you are right.
get some fucking perspective

[Pavlov's House Party]

Pigs deserved it. Liberals will probably come in here crying about how they were innocent working class heroes or something, completely ignoring the fact that pigs defend ruling class interests and that American pigs have a history of remorseless racist attacks, particularly against blacks (Oscar Grant anyone?). Although the shooter probably didn't have any revolutionary aspirations, he keeps up the spirit of resistance and deserves respect for that.

Not only does this position completely abandon the Marxist explanation of the police, but the ethics of this are complete shit too. Killing a few cops doesn't mean shit all in the bigger scheme of things: they'll just get replaced by some other guys to do the same thing. The police exist as a tool of class oppression, protecting private property and bourgeois laws, however killing police officers is not a revolutionary act because it doesn't solve the problem of why police exist. The police (and other tools of class oppression) will exist so long as classes (and by extension, the state) exist.

Please do us real activists a favour and don't call yourself a "marxist" or "communist": that kind of attitude is sickening and gives the bourgeoisie ample propaganda against the movement.

[Glenn Beck]

I am a disgusting individual you are right.
get some fucking perspective

When did I say you were a disgusting individual, sweetheart?

[gorillafuck]

This thread is pretty ridiculous. Killing random cops will just make them be replaced as well as make the other cops in the area more on edge.

[Schrödinger's Cat]

Individual terrorism is politically worthless and this isn't even that, its a random crime. Calling it resistance only makes sense in maybe a sociological sense. That should just be settled. If people have such hatred for the cops hearing about dead cops makes them glad then whatever, I don't feel that way about police but I do about soldiers so I can relate, as long as its just a sentiment and not a political doctrine because then you are entering into the realm of adventurism and propaganda of the deed which is shit. What annoys me is people like psycho and HC cheering on police shooting a hated criminal, especially a black man considering the mythology in this country about "cop-killers" and the lynch mob mentality associated with that. It's disgusting, don't fucking do it.

Definitely. Relishing in this man's death does nothing to promote consideration for the very real mental, physiological, and social problems that would lead someone to rape/murder/abuse. I think it's peculiar how much blood lust exists on this forum when (I would think) most of us are firm opponents of the death penalty and torture...

[Dr. Rosenpenis]

mistaking senseless acts of violence against the establishment for leftist politics is a common sight at revleft
it's also a clear indication that many of our members are completely alienated from a working-class political organization

[bcbm]

well as long as this is in chit chat now...

Yh3wTPlPyPc

[The Red Next Door]

Pigs deserved it. Liberals will probably come in here crying about how they were innocent working class heroes or something, completely ignoring the fact that pigs defend ruling class interests and that American pigs have a history of remorseless racist attacks, particularly against blacks (Oscar Grant anyone?). Although the shooter probably didn't have any revolutionary aspirations, he keeps up the spirit of resistance and deserves respect for that.
No all cops are bad, and this is just senseless generalization. We really don't know much about these cops, they officers probably have problem with doing stuff like this. You seem to forget in every sector of society, there is a Jew, Christian, Muslim, atheist, capitalist, COMMUNIST. so those cops could of been one of us, and let me ask you a question, are police officers in Cuba are pigs?

[Bilan]

Yeah, Psycho's view on this is inconcistent and reactionary.
However much I disapprove of this man's sexual actions, I appreciate his help in getting this pig filth off our streets.

You are a petulant, childish, repugnant, poor excuse for human being. Shut your fucking mouth. Firstly, your disapproval is irrelevant at best, and your presumption that is worth anything is an utterly infantile presumption. Secondly, your contentment with people being slaughtered so thoughtlessly reflects your utter stupidity, and your inability to understand the nature of socialist politics.
We don't like, or support the police, we loathe them. That doesn't mean we laugh and condone when some people have been murdered. There is nothing funny, or good about what has happened here.
This does nothing for "the cause", it does nothing for the working class: all it does is rob people of their one, and only existence.

Wanker.

[Dr. Rosenpenis]

mistaking senseless acts of violence against the establishment for leftist politics is a common sight at revleft
it's also a clear indication that many of our members are completely alienated from a working-class political organization

not that the police's actions were justified either, obviously

psycho's position is indeed inconsistent

everyone is entitled to due process

vigilante justice, in almost all circumstances, is unjustified

Washington is not in the midst of a revolution, nor were these people engaged in an armed class conflict (like the Greek students were)
killing people you think have done wrong is disgusting
so is apologizing for murder

[Axle]

Washington is not in the midst of a revolution, nor were these people engaged in an armed class conflict (like the Greek students were)
killing people you think have done wrong is disgusting
so is apologizing for murder

Put perfectly.

The act of killing a cop can be either reactionary or revolutionary...what what determines this is the underlying context. Since this was unprovoked and not even remotely connected to a revolution, class struggle...or even so much as a fucking picket line, it makes it reactionary.

What I've seen in this thread is a serious lack of understanding between the two. No one on RevLeft likes cops, but a distinction apparently needs to be made with some people here between when killing someone is right or wrong.

With that said, the cop who killed the original shooter was also in the wrong. The man, like everyone else, deserved his day in court.

[Guerrilla22]

Worst tragedy ever. At least the cops that died were armed, unlike most of the victims of police brutality.

[Raúl Duke]

I mostly agree with axle's assessment on this.

I also agree with this at some level:


mistaking senseless acts of violence against the establishment for leftist politics is a common sight at revleft
it's also a clear indication that many of our members are completely alienated from a working-class political organization

While the cops are truly an enemy in the class struggle; what occurred has nothing to do with class struggle and I see no reason why we should praise the shooter due to the actual circumstances; in fact I find it crazy and out of touch to see this on revleft.

[Sasha]

What annoys me is people like psycho and HC cheering on police shooting a hated criminal, especially a black man considering the mythology in this country about "cop-killers" and the lynch mob mentality associated with that. It's disgusting, don't fucking do it.


dont be silly, i didnt meen to "cheer" shooting anyone,

i completly agree with Axels post, i just flipped out against the OP troll who clearly was going to make an case that this shooter was an great revolutionary

[Honggweilo]

funny how if an stupid religous childmollester shoots cops all the ant-impies come out in force to celebrate.
when stupid (!!) greek anarchist insurectionist shoot cops out of retaliation for the murder of an kid the anti-impies come out in force to condemn.
nice to know your priorities are so firmly behind sectarianism.

gross generalization much? dont confuse infantile "fuk yerr" reactions with a whole political tendency. i never supported random unprovoked attacks on cops just for the sake of "the badassery of killings pigs". When i society radicalizes, cops with any moral conscienceness should choose on which side of the barricade they are, or be legitimate targets when repression increases though. Besides, that letter from that greek insurectionist was criticized for its highly conservative moralistic use of language mostly.

[Spawn of Stalin]

No all cops are bad, and this is just senseless generalization. We really don't know much about these cops, they officers probably have problem with doing stuff like this. You seem to forget in every sector of society, there is a Jew, Christian, Muslim, atheist, capitalist, COMMUNIST. so those cops could of been one of us, and let me ask you a question, are police officers in Cuba are pigs?
Cops protect the state in which they work, if you support the state you should support its police force. Cuban cops are on our side, they're the good guys because they protect the Cuban Revolution.

[Sasha]

gross generalization much? dont confuse infantile "fuk yerr" reactions with a whole political tendency. i never supported random unprovoked attacks on cops just for the sake of "the badassery of killings pigs". When i society radicalizes, cops with any moral conscienceness should choose on which side of the barricade they are, or be legitimate targets when repression increases though. Besides, that letter from that greek insurectionist was criticized for its highly conservative moralistic use of language mostly.


agreed (hey its in chit chat now ;)), like i said already on page one of this thread

when Sam_b said:
Okay, i'll bite. What has this got to do with anti-imperialism?
i said: i would say nothing but the anti-impies (again, this doesnt refer to all anti-imperialists, its an common term under dutch actvists for mugabe/ayatholla suporting idiots) in this thread seem to think this was an briliant action bringing the world revolution closer.

(remember that thread on that other religious idiot who hijacked an airline wich had also this same kind of idiots coming out to celebrate)

[Martyrdom Beckons]

ever heard the saying respect vanquished enemies.
Fucking bunch of kids who want to kill for the sake of it, i bet thats why you all support communism, you only want revolution so you can shoot people.
Animals like violence socialists dont.
I support FARC and other groups who genuinely fight for the oppressed, what was this career criminal fighting for, fuck all.

[Holden Caulfield]

Cops protect the state in which they work, if you support the state you should support its police force. Cuban cops are on our side, they're the good guys because they protect the Cuban Revolution.

a homosexual, a anarcho-syndicalist and a trotskyist journalist walk into a Cuban Bar....

[Bilan]

a homosexual, a anarcho-syndicalist and a trotskyist journalist walk into a Cuban Bar....

Is the question, "Who comes out alive?"

[Sasha]

ssshst, its a joke..... dont spoil the ending...

[Martyrdom Beckons]

a homosexual, a anarcho-syndicalist and a trotskyist journalist walk into a Cuban Bar....

to meet with capitalist agitatorsand destroy communism.
later its found out the gay guy was working for cubas secret police and is a hero, the others are as bad as their name suggests:)
next story

[Sasha]

communism? what communism? even the cuban state acnowledges that they are socialist at best.

[Martyrdom Beckons]

ok:rolleyes:
dont expect perfect communism in a capitalist world.

[Holden Caulfield]

yeah psycho you knob, don't expect communism (or not being forced into a concentration camp simply because of your sexuality) in a capitalist world.

[Martyrdom Beckons]

capitalist propoganda.
fox news has been playing in the background hasnt it.

[Jazzratt]

capitalist propoganda.
fox news has been playing in the background hasnt it.

:lol: Every criticism of you favourite, manifestly non-communist, regime is "capitalist proganda". Jesus fucking christ, of all the childish shit.

Also "Martyrdom Beckons"? :laugh::laugh::laugh:

[Il Medico]

Also "Martyrdom Beckons"? :laugh::laugh::laugh:
= Sockpuppet.

[Dr. Rosenpenis]

yeah psycho you knob, don't expect communism (or not being forced into a concentration camp simply because of your sexuality) in a capitalist world.

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[Robocommie]

The United Federation of Planets is Communist, ain't it? I mean, those dudes don't use money.

[The Deepest Red]

I'll set myself up as the hate figure. I'ld rather hear of the guy being shot by the cops than the other way around. Cops (secondary) function in society is to stop fucking scum like that

The primary function of the police overrides all other considerations. They protect the bourgeois state above all else and your support for them murdering people with mental health problems, as opposed to them being killed, makes you a reactionary twat. If you had said isolated attacks on police officers is strategically flawed and all loss of life is regrettable blah blah blah, well and good. But you didn't. Instead you used a moralist argument in support of agents of the state. :(

[CELMX]

Back to the original post, I think it's fucking unreasonable that they still have flags half way down in my town (hey that rhymes, lol) for those four police officers killed!
They were doing NOTHING honorable...wait...i don't think any are, but wtv.
All they were doing was sitting in a fucking coffeeshop, or whatever, and some guy comes in and shoots them. Wow. How heroic.
And what about the people that die EVERY DAY from starvation, poverty, etc. and have actually done service to help other people out? Huh? What happens to them? Nothing. Zilch. No flag lowered, no remembrances. They get thrown into a fucking grave, or get cremated, then are forgotten.

This sort of stuff makes me sad...honoring those people that we should forget, and ignoring the heroes of the working class.:crying::(