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Havet
30th November 2009, 21:25
I'm sorry if this is an old matter, but i searched the forum and the last thread on this subject just got deleted and I didn't get to see anyone's opinion about it.

So my questions are:

-What are the goals of the Lisbon Treaty?

-What will it end up achieving?

Qwerty Dvorak
2nd December 2009, 23:09
I'm sorry if this is an old matter, but i searched the forum and the last thread on this subject just got deleted and I didn't get to see anyone's opinion about it.

So my questions are:

-What are the goals of the Lisbon Treaty?

-What will it end up achieving?
It has a few different goals. It is supposed to modernise the way the EU does things, as well as some of the things it does.

One of the goals is streamlining the decision-making process and trying to cut back on bureaucracy. A cap is set on the number of MEPs in the European Parliament. It was also supposed to reduce the number of members of the Commission, because the Commission had become bloated and inefficient, but following Ireland's rejection of the Treaty it was decided, by way of compromise, to reverse this proposal (it was thought that reducing the number of commissioners below the number of member states would leave some states without a "voice", even though commissioners are duty bound to represent the interests of the EU as a whole and not their respective countries). A number of policy areas move from unanimity to Qualified Majority Voting in the Council, and the QMV system is reorganised. The number of seats which each nation has in the EP is now more proportionate to population.

Lisbon is also about strengthening the social aspect of the EU. The Lisbon Treaty commits the EU for the first time to combating climate change and promoting sustainable development as one of its core goals. It also incorporates the Charter of Fundamental Rights into the Treaties so that it becomes binding on EU law.

In the interests of democracy, Lisbon alters the way in which many decisions are made so that now all EU legislation must be passed by the codecision procedure. The codecision procedure gives the European Parliament the final say on whether a law is passed. the Parliament is the only directly elected European institution, and therefore this move means that more decisions are ultimately taken closer to the people. The treaty also gives national parliaments more input into the EU legislative process, and provides for a citizens' initiative whereby a petition signed by one million EU citizens can be submitted to the Commission and they will be forced to consider it.

It also allows for the EU acting with a single voice on the world stage, mainly by creating the post of High Representative for Foreign Affairs.

Those are a few of the goals of Lisbon. There are others; it's a very long document and much of the changes it implements are just legal technicalities. There was a lot of scaremongering about the Treaty, especially in Ireland. A lot of crazy and incorrect things were said about it which is, in my opinion, what lead to it being defeated by referendum in Ireland. It passed second time around though. I voted in favour of the Treaty twice, and I campaigned for it the first time (I was busy the second time).

Havet
2nd December 2009, 23:16
It has a few different goals. It is supposed to modernise the way the EU does things, as well as some of the things it does.

One of the goals is streamlining the decision-making process and trying to cut back on bureaucracy. A cap is set on the number of MEPs in the European Parliament. It was also supposed to reduce the number of members of the Commission, because the Commission had become bloated and inefficient, but following Ireland's rejection of the Treaty it was decided, by way of compromise, to reverse this proposal (it was thought that reducing the number of commissioners below the number of member states would leave some states without a "voice", even though commissioners are duty bound to represent the interests of the EU as a whole and not their respective countries). A number of policy areas move from unanimity to Qualified Majority Voting in the Council, and the QMV system is reorganised. The number of seats which each nation has in the EP is now more proportionate to population.

Lisbon is also about strengthening the social aspect of the EU. The Lisbon Treaty commits the EU for the first time to combating climate change and promoting sustainable development as one of its core goals. It also incorporates the Charter of Fundamental Rights into the Treaties so that it becomes binding on EU law.

In the interests of democracy, Lisbon alters the way in which many decisions are made so that now all EU legislation must be passed by the codecision procedure. The codecision procedure gives the European Parliament the final say on whether a law is passed. the Parliament is the only directly elected European institution, and therefore this move means that more decisions are ultimately taken closer to the people. The treaty also gives national parliaments more input into the EU legislative process, and provides for a citizens' initiative whereby a petition signed by one million EU citizens can be submitted to the Commission and they will be forced to consider it.

It also allows for the EU acting with a single voice on the world stage, mainly by creating the post of High Representative for Foreign Affairs.

Those are a few of the goals of Lisbon. There are others; it's a very long document and much of the changes it implements are just legal technicalities. There was a lot of scaremongering about the Treaty, especially in Ireland. A lot of crazy and incorrect things were said about it which is, in my opinion, what lead to it being defeated by referendum in Ireland. It passed second time around though. I voted in favour of the Treaty twice, and I campaigned for it the first time (I was busy the second time).

thanks for the reply

Qwerty Dvorak
3rd December 2009, 13:51
No problem. Where are you from?

Havet
3rd December 2009, 18:03
No problem. Where are you from?

Europe ^^