Dehli Declaration - 11th International Meeting of the Communist and Workers' Parties

[Charles Xavier]

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[Small Geezer]

Which parties attended?

[Wanted Man]

A lot: http://11imcwp.in/content/participants

[Q]

A lot: http://11imcwp.in/content/participants

Oeh, the Chinese and North-Korean reactionaries had a large presence and even delegates from Yugoslavia visited... wait, didn't they cease to exist?

Yeah, real proletarians :rolleyes:

[ls]

Excellent parties and people there, gosh wish I was as proletarian as them.

Even has Robert Griffiths (http://welshcommunists.co.uk/election2001.htm) head of the CPB, who was formerly Welsh head of the white-collar petit-bourgeois' union TASS: Robert Griffiths is General Secretary of the Communist Party. A tutor in economic and trade union studies, he is a former Welsh President of AEUW-TASS (now MSF). Author, broadcaster and long-time campaigner for a Welsh parliament and leasehold reform, and against racism and fascism at home and abroad.

What utter class warriors. :cool:

[Cooler Reds Will Prevail]

The affirmations here, that seem to break absolutely no new ground at all in the ICM, don't really seem to match the ideology of quite a number of these parties. CP of Nepal (UML) was in attendance, as was the super nationalist CP of the Russian Federation, the totalitarian Workers Party of Korea and the undeniably reformist CPUSA just to name a few... what the fuck? Even the host, the Communist Party of India (Marxist) is a complete disgrace. Are ANY of these parties revolutionary in their ideology?

Charles Xavier, I don't mean to diss you personally, but what really was the point of this conference but to get a bunch of largely reformist, revisionist, and some entirely fucked up parties together to reaffirm points that, while obvious to most of us, don't seem to be their own ideology in practice? CPI(M) has completely sold out the people of India to the capitalists -- who are they to talk about intensifying struggle against the system when they have been, and continue to be, an active part of it?

[Wanted Man]

It's only one of several different conferences that are attended by many communist parties in the world. There are lots of anti-revisionist parties in the conference as well, but it seems that this meeting is not explicitly anti-revisionist, like, say, the ICS in Brussels. For instance, the revisionist CPUSA and CPB attended this meeting, while the PSL and CPGB (M-L) attended the ICS. That's a significant difference that says a lot.

If you attend this one, does that imply undying solidarity and an eternally conjoined fate with all the parties that you would normally criticise? Of course not. I don't think many of these parties will be in line with the CP of China, the CPI, the CPI(M), the UML, or whatever. In all cases, however, the conferences are opportunities to share experiences and to work with similarities, rather than differences. The intention is not to proclaim a great leader with a groundbreaking "New Synthesis" every year, or to pretend to be an "international". It's what it says on the label: an international meeting of communist and workers' parties.

So I do not see the problem. I might disagree with 90% of what they have to say on socialism, but I would gladly have an exchange with one of the British parties, or even with the Chinese or North Koreans, rather than hiding behind the theories of the "leader" of an "international" based on the premise that all those people are "revisionists".

I guess that's also the reason why the Philippine maoists attended the ICS with many non-maoist parties, and why their people abroad work with non-maoist parties that they can really share with, rather than limiting their exchanges to other maoists. But who knows, maybe the CWI or the maoist ICMLPO or the RIM will soon have a meeting where they manage to "break new ground in the ICM". But they have not published anything new since 2007 and 2006, respectively. Do they meet? Or maybe Kasama will someday present us with more than just a (very interesting) news site. In the meantime, the rest of us are not going to suspend operations, but will continue to hold meetings like the IMCWP and ICS.

[Charles Xavier]

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[pranabjyoti]

The ideological differences between the parties was brought up at the meeting. My party brought up some points about this and reinstated our concerns about opportunism, reformism and revisionism. Check out our statement I posted it in the Communist Party of Canada group. The meeting is to bring about unity among worker and communist parties on international issues and build an international fightback and a forum for discussion among the communist parties.
I am curious to know about the position of your party about the organizations, who are on the road of armed struggle. In my opinion, most of the real struggles have been done by them so far.

[Charles Xavier]

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[Saorsa]

What about Lalgarh? The CPI ('Marxist') is an oppressive, capitalistic regime and the oppressed peasants of India are rising up against it. I wonder if that was brought up...

[pranabjyoti]

which party? We are in support of FARC-EP for example which is engaging in armed struggle against a fascist dictatorship.
The hosts, the CPI(Marxist) and CPI, are worthless revisionists, who are now rejected by both the workers and peasants and the aborigines, in short, the very class basis of present day revolutionary parties. Ai Ping, the delegate on behalf of CPC at the meeting, clearly announced the support of the CPC to the policies of the Indian ruling class and their oppressive policies to counter any kind of peoples movement, which is clearly very very reactionary in nature.
I suggest, you better discuss this issues inside your party and if you have a website, clearly state your objections there, if you have any. I am sorry to say, by participating in such kind of meeting, your party have just put themselves in the same bracket as those reactionary, revisionist parties.

[Charles Xavier]

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[Andrei Kuznetsov]

Oooh boy, Eurocommunists and Khrushchevites with some Jucheists all coming together for a fun little circle-jerk! Sounds like a RAVISHING good time!

[Saorsa]

Things aren't that black and white. Theres no unity among the masses in India under any line, maoist or otherwise.

You haven't answered my question mate. Almost looks like your avoiding it... What about Lalgarh?

[pranabjyoti]

Things aren't that black and white. Theres no unity among the masses in India under any line, maoist or otherwise.
May be there isn't unity in total among the masses of India. But that fact doesn't nullify the poisonous roles of CPI(Marxist) and CPI. Do you know, a few years ago, a huge State owned factory in West Bengal, named MAMC (Mining and Allied Machinery Corporation) had been announced to for closure by Govt. of India. Workers made an organization to protest and made movements against that. The CPI(Marxist) gathered its party cadres and gangsters of nearby area and made regular attacks on the leadership of the organization and workers. CPI(Marxist) has an organization in the govt. employee front in the Govt. of West Bengal, named as the Coordination Committee. Throughout the past 30 years, the members of this committee had done countless attacks or govt. employees, who belongs to other organization.
Moreover, they are now the over-enthusiast implementer of the demonic UAPA, something as worst as the Patriot Act of USA, falling in the same category. They often praised by Chidambaram, the Home Minister of India and the very dependable watchdog of imperialist interest in India. I hope you and your party don't count the Govt. of India to be among Socialist or revolutionary one.
If you or anybody from you party can visit India and the state of West Bengal and contact me personally. I can show them huge number of attributes of the COMRADES of the CPI(Marxist) party. Due to those b******s, the toiling mass of West Bengal is looking with doubt to anybody, if he/she has been called as "Comrade".
In the Lalgarh and surrounding area, where even a full meal is a "delicacy", the Secretary of the Local Committee of CPI(Marxist), once had a house (which later had been destroyed by angry peasants) with marble flooring and other luxury items. I don't know how many such examples can show you the real character of the CPI(Marxist) and CPI.
How can you explain that in a state, run by a COMMUNIST(!) party, people have been arrested for having collection of Marx, Lenin. IT IS A FACT NOW HERE.

[Charles Xavier]

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[Charles Xavier]

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[Vladimir Innit Lenin]

Gosh that is a ragtag bunch of parties in there.

WPK, CPGB (M-L) and CPN (M-L), as well as the CPUSA. hmm.:blink:

[Saorsa]

I don't follow Indian politics sorry I cant give an answer.

You don't need to. Your party sent delegates to an international forum organised by a party which the peasants and workers of Lalgarh are rising up against, and being met by blody repression in response. Why did you party attend such a conference? Why did it not explicitly condemn the CPM and the CPI at the conference?

[Yehuda Stern]

The resolution is completely reformist. It calls not for a workers revolution but for a mobilization of "popular forces" to achieve all sorts of reforms.
The parties at the meeting are all parties that have proven themselves historically to be anti-worker, and now prove once again that they are incapable of adopting even the semblance of a revolutionary program. This is why the meeting was noticed only by those who attended it.

[pranabjyoti]

I don't follow Indian politics sorry I cant give an answer.
It's not a matter of just Indian politics. It's a matter of ideology, going hand to hand with a party, that is openly going against the workers and peasants interest, which was their supporters.
I am requesting you and your party to study the activities of parties of CPI(Marxist) and CPI and have to dome to a concrete decision regarding them. Just having a red flag isn't sufficient to call any organization "communist".

[bailey_187]

Gosh that is a ragtag bunch of parties in there.

WPK, CPGB (M-L) and CPN (M-L), as well as the CPUSA. hmm.:blink:


As far as i am aware, the cpgb-ml was not there

[Spawn of Stalin]

No we do not attend, blame the CPB and their slanderous revisionist lies.

[Panda Tse Tung]

The resolution is completely reformist. It calls not for a workers revolution but for a mobilization of "popular forces" to achieve all sorts of reforms.
The parties at the meeting are all parties that have proven themselves historically to be anti-worker, and now prove once again that they are incapable of adopting even the semblance of a revolutionary program. This is why the meeting was noticed only by those who attended it.
Yes, that seems like a good demand in these ohw so revolutionary times.

[Spirit of Spartacus]

The resolution is completely reformist. It calls not for a workers revolution but for a mobilization of "popular forces" to achieve all sorts of reforms.
The parties at the meeting are all parties that have proven themselves historically to be anti-worker, and now prove once again that they are incapable of adopting even the semblance of a revolutionary program. This is why the meeting was noticed only by those who attended it.

But comrade, do you really believe there would have been live coverage from the BBC if the conference had followed your revolutionary line? :lol:

[Vladimir Innit Lenin]

No we do not attend, blame the CPB and their slanderous revisionist lies.

lol. You guys still don't get it do you:rolleyes: You are the only true force for revolution on the British left aren't you? Anybody who dares question Stalin, Brar, China in any way, or pertains to reject your leadership in any way, is clearly some sort of reformist. You wonder why you have such a small and decrepit membership.:blink:

Sorry Bailey, I thought I saw somewhere that they did attend.

[bailey_187]

lol. You guys still don't get it do you:rolleyes: .

What dont they get?



You are the only true force for revolution on the British left aren't you?
Anybody who dares question Stalin, Brar, China in any way, or pertains to reject your leadership in any way, is clearly some sort of reformist. .

Not true. The RCG is friendly with the CPGB-ML and does not still uphold China or Stalin(i think the question of Stalin varies from member to member)



You wonder why you have such a small and decrepit membership.:blink:.

As oppose to a less small (but still small) membership of the SWP? or the CPB?
Atleast the CPGB-ML has only grown in size. Look at how big those party's used to be and how small they are now.

[Yehuda Stern]

Yes, that seems like a good demand in these ohw so revolutionary times.

Sorry, I forgot that revolutionaries only advocate revolution when it's popular.


But comrade, do you really believe there would have been live coverage from the BBC if the conference had followed your revolutionary line?

I believe completely that a conference of that size that would take even a seemingly revolutionary line would be taken much more seriously by working class activists.

[Panda Tse Tung]

Sorry, I forgot that revolutionaries only advocate revolution when it's popular.
If you don't have the basis to call for a revolution, the primary objective is maintaining and advancing workers rights.

[Charles Xavier]

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[Spawn of Stalin]

lol. You guys still don't get it do you:rolleyes: You are the only true force for revolution on the British left aren't you? Anybody who dares question Stalin, Brar, China in any way, or pertains to reject your leadership in any way, is clearly some sort of reformist. You wonder why you have such a small and decrepit membership.:blink:

Sorry Bailey, I thought I saw somewhere that they did attend.
Actually we don't wonder why we have a small membership, in fact we know why we have a small membership, it's because we started from scratch only five years ago, nice try though. Please don't call our members decrepit, this is offensive, say what you want about our size, our line on China, or anything else like that, it doesn't bother us, but if you're going to resort to ageism you might as well just fuck off now. Yes, we have a few seniors amongst us, this is only testament to our living connections with the great Communists of times gone, our links to the CPSU, the CPC, and the original CPGB before it became a revisionist organisation. Besides, I'd rather be in a party full of oldies than a party full of students with little to no understanding of Marxism. Nothing against students, but let's face it, most of them just join these revisionist/Trot groups to feel like they are part of something, to fulfil their dreams of becoming a radical liberal who stands in the rain selling shit papers every weekend. We are friendly with the RCG, the NCP, and the RCPB-ML, all of whom we have major disagreements with, especially regarding the issues of China and the British Labour Party. We don't care about whether or not the CPB questions Stalin or anyone else for that matter, the fact of the matter is the CPB wrote a secret "report" to the International Meeting of the Communist and Workers' Parties advising that we not be allowed to take part on the basis that apparently we are not actually a Communist party, so please at least try get your facts straight before lashing out. And yes, to be quite honest I do think we are the only true force for revolution on the British left, and if I didn't I would be in a different party, you don't join a party if you don't think that they are capable of bringing about revolution, that would just be silly really. But yeah, I appreciate the attention, it's always good to know that most of the British left doesn't like it, it just means we are doing something right.

[Salyut]

Factionalism gets us nowhere. ;_;

[pranabjyoti]

Factionalism gets us nowhere. ;_;
That doesn't mean that in the name of unity, we will go hand to hand with parties and organizations, that have clearly taken anti-worker, anti-peasant line.

[BobKKKindle$]

If you don't have the basis to call for a revolution, the primary objective is maintaining and advancing workers rights.

How do you go about explaining the behaviour of the Comintern and CPC post-1927, then?

[Salyut]

That doesn't mean that in the name of unity, we will go hand to hand with parties and organizations, that have clearly taken anti-worker, anti-peasant line.

I agree with you actually - I don't like that the CPC has sided with the CPI(M) over the Naxalites. I mean political party (never mind the whole corruption thing) vs. revolutionary peasents fighting oppression...Why the hell is this even a choice?

[Panda Tse Tung]

How do you go about explaining the behaviour of the Comintern and CPC post-1927, then?
I'm not familiar with this framework of time in Chinese history. It is very well possible i disagree with their behavior at that time.

[Vladimir Innit Lenin]

Actually we don't wonder why we have a small membership, in fact we know why we have a small membership, it's because we started from scratch only five years ago, nice try though. Please don't call our members decrepit, this is offensive, say what you want about our size, our line on China, or anything else like that, it doesn't bother us, but if you're going to resort to ageism you might as well just fuck off now. Yes, we have a few seniors amongst us, this is only testament to our living connections with the great Communists of times gone, our links to the CPSU, the CPC, and the original CPGB before it became a revisionist organisation. Besides, I'd rather be in a party full of oldies than a party full of students with little to no understanding of Marxism. Nothing against students, but let's face it, most of them just join these revisionist/Trot groups to feel like they are part of something, to fulfil their dreams of becoming a radical liberal who stands in the rain selling shit papers every weekend. We are friendly with the RCG, the NCP, and the RCPB-ML, all of whom we have major disagreements with, especially regarding the issues of China and the British Labour Party. We don't care about whether or not the CPB questions Stalin or anyone else for that matter, the fact of the matter is the CPB wrote a secret "report" to the International Meeting of the Communist and Workers' Parties advising that we not be allowed to take part on the basis that apparently we are not actually a Communist party, so please at least try get your facts straight before lashing out. And yes, to be quite honest I do think we are the only true force for revolution on the British left, and if I didn't I would be in a different party, you don't join a party if you don't think that they are capable of bringing about revolution, that would just be silly really. But yeah, I appreciate the attention, it's always good to know that most of the British left doesn't like it, it just means we are doing something right.

Apologies, 'comrade', for the ageism. Perhaps a tad wrong of me.

However, I highlight the part of your post which shows precisely why your membership is so small, and why the majority of the parties of the British left (say what you want about them, I don't have much fondness for any of the British left organised into parties today) - SWP, CPB, SPEW - refuse to organise with you.The fact that you would rather your party stayed small and was packed with 'great communists' of the past, rather than attracted new members who had a lesser understanding - but certainly an enthusiasm for - marxist ideas, says it all. You cannot claim to represent the working class, whilst holding the majority of the next generation of young workers in such contempt. Such a disdainful attitude is alien to Socialism.

I tell you why many students, having joined any sort of Communist party, not just the likes of SPEW, reject Marxism and become the 'liberal' types who post comments online in the Guardian from their 5 bed houses in Hampstead. They join, with little/no concept of Marxian analysis, and instead of being welcomed and encouraged to learn and adapt to becoming a Socialist, they are ridiculed for innocently relaying the bourgeois concepts, or myths regarding Socialism, that they have heard. You should be engaging with those who have an enthusiasm for marxism, rather than constantly engaging in this self-indulgent, and ultimately self-defeating, theoretical masturbation that you are all too pleased to display to anybody less read in Marxism than yourself.

[FSL]

Apologies, 'comrade', for the ageism. Perhaps a tad wrong of me.

However, I highlight the part of your post which shows precisely why your membership is so small, and why the majority of the parties of the British left (say what you want about them, I don't have much fondness for any of the British left organised into parties today) - SWP, CPB, SPEW - refuse to organise with you.The fact that you would rather your party stayed small and was packed with 'great communists' of the past, rather than attracted new members who had a lesser understanding - but certainly an enthusiasm for - marxist ideas, says it all. You cannot claim to represent the working class, whilst holding the majority of the next generation of young workers in such contempt. Such a disdainful attitude is alien to Socialism.

I tell you why many students, having joined any sort of Communist party, not just the likes of SPEW, reject Marxism and become the 'liberal' types who post comments online in the Guardian from their 5 bed houses in Hampstead. They join, with little/no concept of Marxian analysis, and instead of being welcomed and encouraged to learn and adapt to becoming a Socialist, they are ridiculed for innocently relaying the bourgeois concepts, or myths regarding Socialism, that they have heard. You should be engaging with those who have an enthusiasm for marxism, rather than constantly engaging in this self-indulgent, and ultimately self-defeating, theoretical masturbation that you are all too pleased to display to anybody less read in Marxism than yourself.



On the eve of russian revolution and when Lenin was the only one crazy enough to think a worker's revolution was not only possible but imminent, he argued that communists shouldn't be afraid to stay in the minority. If they made their positions clear, "patiently explain" them to workers, build up people's consciousness then they'd end up joining the bolshevicks without them (the bolshevicks) putting their principles aside and shifting to the right. At that point he wanted to cut off any sort of bonds with other "left" forces and have the party renamed communist, so people wouldn't associate it with others.

The main point of this is that the party must only care about marxism and the best possible way of using it to understand its surroundings and the best ways of action. Not "attract" people. Those that are curious and want to learn more can simply look at the party's press/read/ask. People will come to the workers party, because when they start pursuing their own interests instead of the bourgeoisie's, there is no other place to go.

Parties that choose to be vague to not put off people, "broad fronts", electoral (and electoral only) alliances; these things end up attracting a large number of people only to trap them. That's what needs to change.

[Vladimir Innit Lenin]

FSL, I have to say I have a lot of time for your posts, you are certainly one of the more helpful M-L's on this board.

We will have to disagree on this point, as I am not a Leninist mainly because I do not believe in the concept of Vanguardism. Therefore, it really is a moot point to argue about whether it is good policy for Socialists to stay in the minority.

I do agree that populism is something that shouldn't be encouraged. My point was that it is surely possible to accomodate, and indeed educate, those who do not yet have a developed understanding of Marxism, without diluting the intellectual ability of the party in general.

Surely it is better to do that, than simply reject people who know little about Marxism which, in all honesty, is a particularly difficult concept to grasp, and a topic to become learned on.

[Spawn of Stalin]

Apologies, 'comrade', for the ageism. Perhaps a tad wrong of me.

However, I highlight the part of your post which shows precisely why your membership is so small, and why the majority of the parties of the British left (say what you want about them, I don't have much fondness for any of the British left organised into parties today) - SWP, CPB, SPEW - refuse to organise with you.The fact that you would rather your party stayed small and was packed with 'great communists' of the past, rather than attracted new members who had a lesser understanding - but certainly an enthusiasm for - marxist ideas, says it all. You cannot claim to represent the working class, whilst holding the majority of the next generation of young workers in such contempt. Such a disdainful attitude is alien to Socialism.

I tell you why many students, having joined any sort of Communist party, not just the likes of SPEW, reject Marxism and become the 'liberal' types who post comments online in the Guardian from their 5 bed houses in Hampstead. They join, with little/no concept of Marxian analysis, and instead of being welcomed and encouraged to learn and adapt to becoming a Socialist, they are ridiculed for innocently relaying the bourgeois concepts, or myths regarding Socialism, that they have heard. You should be engaging with those who have an enthusiasm for marxism, rather than constantly engaging in this self-indulgent, and ultimately self-defeating, theoretical masturbation that you are all too pleased to display to anybody less read in Marxism than yourself.
No, I already told you why our membership is small, it's because we're a new party, we're also one of the only parties on the left which is growing considerably. It's also because we don't force membership and direct debit forms on unsuspecting pedestrians, with these parties it is literally a case of "hey, you wanna be a Communist? Here, give us your bank details and you can be one, you'll receive a copy of our constitution and a Che shirt in the mail within 28 days, chances are won't actually end up being part of a revolution or anything but that's not what we're about, we mostly focus on solidarity with Islam and the LGBT community, we're also big on environmentalism, worker struggles? What are they then?", you get what I'm saying. Being a Communist is about more than having a membership card and a subscription to a paper, we Communists have a particular way of doing things, we use science and dialectics to analyse, we show solidarity, we put revolutionary activities at the top of the agenda no matter the weather. So yes I do have an "alternative" attitude towards petty bourgeois students who join socialist groups just to be a trendy leftist, good, I don't care, because I refuse to believe that half of these people have a genuine interest in Marxism or even the most important aspect of socialism, that is proletarian liberation, not scrapping tuition fees, not destroying niche right-wing parties, not legalising drugs, proletarian liberation. I myself have spent some time in one of the big parties, I won't say which one publicly because frankly I can't be fucked to deal with the consequences when a member reads this thread, I was never a formal member in that I never gave them a penny but I spent quite a long time with them and was frankly disgusted by what I saw, the people I met had such dry politics they could have been in almost any party, very little Marxism, lots of "feel good" politics, lots of "things'll be okay if we wave our placards around" attitudes, and it saddens me to say this but revolution doesn't come easy, we can't just wave our placards and hope that imperialism ends, and I do wish that we could all unite and overthrow capitalism, but we can't, for that reason, I choose the party of 60 year old veteran Communists, with decades of experience in factories and mines, over the party of 16 year old idealists who may or may not be willing to make the ultimate sacrifice for the cause of socialism.

And what's this about the big parties refusing to organise with us? It's nothing because it's a lie, we have no desire to organise with these people, we never have and I certainly hope we never will, revisionists and Trots the lot of them, neither the CPB or the SWP advocate the revolution we want so why would we want to organise with them?

But for what it's worth, I don't care how well read in Marxism people are, if they're willing to learn and take in interest in becoming revolutionaries then I'll make time for them. I've been a Communist for nearly seven years, I was lucky enough to have brought up in a progressive household by a progressive Mother, I was never really an absolute beginner because I was raised around that stuff, old copies of Class War and anti-Vietnam leaflets littered my house, but I can understand what it's like to want to get involved in the struggle and not know where to start, I'm happy that I, and my Comrades in the CPGB-ML are here to help educate these people. What we don't do is pray on people and beg them to become members, this isn't an effective way of recruiting because all you are gaining is numbers and making no real advances towards building a revolutionary cadre party. I have nothing against parties large in terms of membership, and I am not especially proud of the fact that we are a small party, but like I said, better to be a small party of true revolutionaries than a huge party of people who kind of care, but kind of also want to go out and get drunk because it's cheap night at the local Scream bar, I wish only the best for these people, I want these people to prosper, but people like that can't and won't start a revolution, ever.

[Vladimir Innit Lenin]

Meh, I despair at a lot of what you right, but I respect your principled stance, for what it is worth. I just cannot agree with it.

I am of the opinion that whatever you or I do, our respective branches of leftism will never achieve the backing of the entire proletariat without engaging with other leftist groups. At the end of the day, I want to see proletarian revolution and I want the ideas of Socialism to be implemented. Yes, I have my own ideas about how to go about this, but I would rather involve myself in some democratic 'give and take' and make progress towards Socialism in general, than refuse to engage and be part of a fractured left movement. But that is just my view, comrade.:)

[Vladimir Innit Lenin]

I must also say that you are lucky to come from a fairly radical family.

I can tell you that I have not. My immediate ancestry is extremely conservative (Small 'c', they aren't, in the main, Conservatives in the Thatcher sense), although I do have direct ancestry that was involved in the Communist movement aroudn the time of the Russian Revolution and the 1926 general strike.

I can also tell you that, for me to become versed in Marxism, starting as a novice, was extremely difficult. The amount of propaganda I have had to discard, and the amoutn of reading and re-reading I have had to do just to become a beginner, which is what I am, has been pretty hard. I therefore, have more sympathy than you with the people who come on here saying stuff like 'I sympathise with Communism but wasn't it true that Stalin killed 50 million people' etc.

[bailey_187]

Not that i can see it happening anytime soon, but i would love the CPGB-ML and RCG to merge. FRFI! is a great paper and both parties are pretty much the same theoretically. The only difference being that the RCG does not uphold present day China (but they dont advocate its overthrow), nor are they as keen on Stalin as the CPGB-ML (but do not resort to being hysterical about him)
Both parties are firmly anti-imperialist
Both parties view the labour party as an imperialist-bourgeois party
Both parties think there is a labour artistocracy

[Spawn of Stalin]

I certainly think there is potential for more co-operation between our two groups, we are already very friendly with them, and yeah they have an excellent paper and are brilliant when it comes to the issue of Cuba. We'll see.