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BogdanV
27th November 2009, 20:52
If I remember right, the first Internationale was formed during Marx's time. For the past, I have a nearly clear image of the Internationale, but what has happened to it today ? I don't remember it being dissolved.
Is it still true to its origins, or its just a spamfest of pseudo social democrat parties worldwide ?
Weezer
27th November 2009, 20:56
The Socialist International? You mean the one with the Rose and Fist as their logo?
They're a bunch of social democrats.
Spawn of Stalin
27th November 2009, 21:27
Someone needs to read up on their history. They have nothing at all to do with each other. The First International, or the International Workingmen's Association doesn't exist today. Some would say that the Fourth International is its current incarnation.
Stranger Than Paradise
28th November 2009, 06:31
The socialist international has nothing to do with working class politics. It is not true to its origins no.
Die Neue Zeit
28th November 2009, 06:37
International Workingmen's Association
Second International (formally "Socialist International," but not the same Socialist International of today)
Communist International (only the first six congresses can be critically upheld, and the extent to which they are upheld or rejected is up for debate)
International Working Union of Socialist Parties (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Working_Union_of_Socialist_Parties) (basically the short-lived "centrist" Two-and-a-Half International)
International Revolutionary Marxist Centre (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Revolutionary_Marxist_Centre) (the underrated Three-and-a-Half International)
Only these above internationals should be considered legitimate. All else are reformist garbage on the one hand or, to quote the Marxist Louis Proyect, "sectarian mistakes" on the other.
blake 3:17
28th November 2009, 08:32
Garbage.
Kléber
29th November 2009, 03:25
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/60/Countries_governed_by_SI_parties.png
(red = ruling party is in SI, pink = ruling party is consultative member)
The 2nd international has been doing the dirty work of the IMF and World Bank for some time, providing a left cover to privatizations and social austerity programs. Lately the SI parties have been putting out some inflammatory rhetoric to capitalize on the crisis, but I haven't heard anything good about them.
Charles Xavier
29th November 2009, 03:53
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RadioRaheem84
29th November 2009, 04:08
The only thing International about the "Socialist" International is their siding with neo-liberals to battle socialism internationally during the 90s. Some of them are trying to win back their image (if they ever even had one) because the right wing in their countries are taking the nationalist/protectionist approach to the crisis and stealing their thunder.
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