Tito’s grandson Communist Party leader

[Das war einmal]

Josip Joska Broz, grandson of former SFRY president Josip Broz Tito was elected president of the newly formed Communist Party at the Union Congress in Novi Sad.

According to his words the CP has united with the Alliance of Social-democrats of Novi Sad and New Communist Party of Zrenjanin.
‘I am convinced that until the end of January next year the CP shall manage to get 10,000 signatures required for its registration. Our targeted group is ten percent of almost sixty percent of politically undecided voters in Serbia’, Broz told journalists after appointment.
He also says that the CP shall be a modern party supporting European integration process and privatization in Serbia.
‘Unlike the old communist party, our party shall respect religious choice of our members. We are also open to accept another 14 small political parties in Serbia with communist orientation’, Broz pointed out.

http://www.blic.rs/news.php?id=5532

Remarkable news, not so because of the grandson of Tito leading a Communist Party but more on the fact that this party seems to support privatizations...

[gorillafuck]

What's the status of the other left parties in Serbia? I can't imagine a newly formed CP being taken seriously if it supports privatizations, because it wouldn't even have "legacy" or anything like that to ride on.

[Red Fist]

at the moment ,I personally do not support the party if they got these kind of theories. To call your self communist and member of a communist party you have to ageed with the person who invented this theoretical Science, Karl Marx. And Marx was especially against the privatization. privatization is one of the capitalists strongest tool and the foundation of imperialism. Mabey this party just wants more voters. but tell me what is a "mordern communism party"? by supporting european interation and privatization? they can call them self social-democrats

[Robocommie]

Now, by privatizations, am I understand they mean the sale of public services and institutions to for-profit private firms? Because I fail to see how that's anything but a direct contradiction to Socialism in general, let alone Communism in particular.

[gorillafuck]

Now, by privatizations, am I understand they mean the sale of public services and institutions to for-profit private firms? Because I fail to see how that's anything but a direct contradiction to Socialism in general, let alone Communism in particular.
Hell, it's not even social-democratic.

[Die Neue Zeit]

As far as hypocrisy goes, I prefer Brezhnev's grandson, but I haven't heard recent news about his own splinter group.

[Bandito]

It's a big joke.

There is a discussion about this in the WB forum and we all agree on that.
It's basically a unity between KPS(Communist Party of Serbia) and a single person, Joska Broz, Tito's grandson. The press calls this a unification of serbian communists, but seriously, revolutionary parties have stated their priciples loud and clear about this. These types of stories can only harm the communist movemet by equating this bullshit with the term cummunism. Somebody stated well, "hell, this is not even social-democratic".
This is a one-day funny story for the serbian press, and nothing more.
Real revolutionary organizations will continue their struggle against every bourgeois element, including these clowns.

[Bandito]

What's the status of the other left parties in Serbia? I can't imagine a newly formed CP being taken seriously if it supports privatizations, because it wouldn't even have "legacy" or anything like that to ride on.
Of course we oppose these morons.

[Dimentio]

How popular are privatisations in Serbia?

[Bandito]

In short, privatization process (officially) began after 5. October 2000.,when Milosevic fell.
Than it was considered as a "normal" process in so-called modernisation of Serbia and joining the EU, but in years, even hard-line democrats learned that things aren't that smooth at all.
Sackings, humiliation, destruction of economy and total sale of state property are driving people to the edge right now, and it can be safely said that most of the serbian people oppose the idea. Just a small minority supports privatization, and even from them a good percent don't think that serbian government is doing it "right".
Actually this subject is the best chance for us leftist to propagate our ideas.

[Искра]

This party is a joke. Maybe I could get factory in Serbia when I show them my Party card... I have Communist Party of Yugoslavia card, even I was born in 1990... :lol:

[Dimentio]

In short, privatization process (officially) began after 5. October 2000.,when Milosevic fell.
Than it was considered as a "normal" process in so-called modernisation of Serbia and joining the EU, but in years, even hard-line democrats learned that things aren't that smooth at all.
Sackings, humiliation, destruction of economy and total sale of state property are driving people to the edge right now, and it can be safely said that most of the serbian people oppose the idea. Just a small minority supports privatization, and even from them a good percent don't think that serbian government is doing it "right".
Actually this subject is the best chance for us leftist to propagate our ideas.

The question is why the communist party wants to parrot the line that all other parties want and which is impopular everywhere except amongst inner-city liberals and intelligentsia...

[Искра]

The question is why the communist party wants to parrot the line that all other parties want and which is impopular everywhere except amongst inner-city liberals and intelligentsia...
They want their "piece of cake"?
It all about name not about ideals, as much as I dislike Leninist party model I think that Bandito's party is the only one which is "real" and "by the book". The rest are just liberals.

[Bandito]

Exactly what Jurko said.
They want their piece of the action by exploiting the nostaligia some people feel about former Yugoslavia and Tito himself. There is an interesting fact about politics here - people don't read party programs and statutes, they simply connect with a name and/or a billboard photo. And this is one of many reasons why this tripe that's going on about the leather chairs cannot be described as politics. Politics is a science. This is pure take-the-money-and-run thing.

[Wanted Man]

This sounds even funnier than when Gorbachev tried to start a "social-democratic party" in Russia.

[Dimentio]

They want their "piece of cake"?
It all about name not about ideals, as much as I dislike Leninist party model I think that Bandito's party is the only one which is "real" and "by the book". The rest are just liberals.

Idiotic. If they want a bigger piece of the cake, they should pretend to follow the will of the people and then behave as scumbags anyway when they get into power.
:lol:

[Искра]

I think that you are not aware how much profit you can make out of Tito here.

[Robocommie]

I think that you are not aware how much profit you can make out of Tito here.

Is Tito still popular in the Balkans, then?

[Wanted Man]

Is Tito still popular in the Balkans, then?

I can't answer for sure, but here is my guess: probably not "popular" in the sense that his political ideas are seriously appreciated, but good for nostalgia and selling stuff to people. Just like fake fur ushankas with red stars on them in Russia, I suppose. Former Yugoslavia comrades can correct me if I'm wrong. :)

[Искра]

I can't answer for sure, but here is my guess: probably not "popular" in the sense that his political ideas are seriously appreciated, but good for nostalgia and selling stuff to people. Just like fake fur ushankas with red stars on them in Russia, I suppose. Former Yugoslavia comrades can correct me if I'm wrong. :)
He's like Yugoslavian Che Guevara. He's a product.

If we talk about his policy, uh... people don't like him, especially in Croatia.

[Bandito]

As I noted, people here don't follow political processes or criticize some politics because of its faults.
Here's the main sentiment: "Back than were the good times, everything functioned and we could travel where ever we want with our red passports".
And that is it.

And in 99% the person saying that is:
-over 45 years old
-ex party member(back than almost everyone was in the Party)
-middle or upper class
-Christian(Serbia, Croatia, Macedonia, Slovenia)or a Muslim(Bosnia), but discovered his/hers faith after the '90es

Boring.


If we talk about his policyDid you mean his politics, or policy as a part of the "politics, polity, policy" definition? :P

[Искра]

I meant policy...
But we can talk about his politics, also. ;)

[punisa]

Tito's gradson is just trashing his grandpa's name and believes it will help him get a piece of the political pie. Blatant opportunism and ..well, capitalism.
As comrades from ex-yu already explained, this is only going to be a trick for certain nostalgic masses who will eventually give them their votes.

Everything, and I mean EVERYTHING that has anything to do with Tito in ex-yugoslav countries disgusts me.
From nostalgia to memorabilia, books, talks etc etc.
Lots of people gather every year in his home village in Croatia - Kumrovec, to "celebrate" his birthday.
Yeah right, to get some free food would be more honest explanation :)

I criticize only what I know and many people (including lefties) will criticize Tito without knowing shit about the guy. This is just an effect of the propaganda pouring on and into their heads without them even noticing.