what do you think about the idea of free health care?

[The Red Next Door]

What is your opinion about free health care? is it a good idea or bad idea under government?

[Uncle Ho]

It's a basic human right.

[Axle]

What Ho said.

Having to go without health care is flat out wrong. Exactly as wrong as having to go without food or shelter.

[RedSonRising]

Most people on revleft would hold the opinion that healthcare is a human right. However the real interesting debate would be which is the most effective/democratic method of distribution (community/local, national, regional, etc.)

[kugelblitz1945]

I can say, that in Soviet Union, which I can name my homeland, completely all healthcare was free. And everyone was happy. But today...we have to pay doctors for what must be free.

[Pirate turtle the 11th]

What is your opinion about free health care? is it a good idea or bad idea under government?

I think its disgusting , me pay for the survival of my fellow humans? Fuck that i'd rather my money went towards bombing ragheads back into the stoneage.




:rolleyes:

[SouthernBolshevik]

I believe it is a necessary step in progression for our economy, but we don't have any money for it in the US right now. I'd oppose the bill until we stop things like giving money and jobs to China and bailing out bankers so we have some backbone for it.

[FSL]

I believe it is a necessary step in progression for our economy, but we don't have any money for it in the US right now. I'd oppose the bill until we stop things like giving money and jobs to China and bailing out bankers so we have some backbone for it.



Yes, no money at all. Practically capitalists are out on the streets begging.


*Shrugs*

[Artemis3]

Absolute must. Keep it mixed (as in letting a private sector operate) if you want, but make sure your State Health care system is in top notch so people can choose, and not left to die on the street when they have no insurance or money left.

Yes, a Human Right it is.

[Scary Monster]

Absolute must. Keep it mixed (as in letting a private sector operate) if you want, but make sure your State Health care system is in top notch so people can choose, and not left to die on the street when they have no insurance or money left.

Yes, a Human Right it is.

Completely agree with everyone here. The crazy thing is, in the US at least, a lot of the time people are literally left on the street because they cant afford medical care at all In addition to a large debt accumulated from hospital services :(

[Stranger Than Paradise]

I support it for every single person. Equally and all-encompassing healthcare for all.

[Schrödinger's Cat]

What is your opinion about free health care? is it a good idea or bad idea under government?

It depends. If the current government drops the ball on the issue, either purposely or not, "free" health care could end up being a miserable deal that makes the current system look like paradise. For example, there's a lot of curious ambiguities in the current bill being discussed in the Congress relating to the public option - does it even exist, or is this entire push for health care just a scam like car insurance? The fact most reciprocative funding will come from "fees" and not taxation is quite alarming. Different forms of the bill state a family can be punished by the courts for not having health care (but as far as I'm aware, the current bill only punishes employers). I suppose the idea behind this is that an increase in aggregate demand paired up with subsidies in supply will lower costs, but that's potentially dangerous.

As to the prospect of socialized health care and socialized medicine, I support it 100%.

[-Marxist-Leninist-Maoist-]

i think its sickening you even have to ask.

[Red Fist]

In Denmark they got free health care wich is paid by tax.

The low incomers pay 38% of there salary while the high incomers pays 42% of theres. all this Tax Pay include Free health care , free kindergarten and shcools for the children, public houses for the homeless and rehab projects for the drug addicts.

This system is going fine in Denmark so it could be a good solution for the goverment.

[Schrödinger's Cat]

The low incomers pay 38% of there salary while the high incomers pays 42% Sounds like a scam to me considering countries like Denmark, Norway, and Sweden have the most millionaires per capita in the world - partially due to the fact their social democracies are the most productive in existance.

[farleft]

In Denmark they got free health care wich is paid by tax.

The low incomers pay 38% of there salary while the high incomers pays 42% of theres. all this Tax Pay include Free health care , free kindergarten and shcools for the children, public houses for the homeless and rehab projects for the drug addicts.

This system is going fine in Denmark so it could be a good solution for the goverment.

We have free healthcare in the UK too (though this may end when the conservatives win the next general election).

Like Denmark it is funded through the tax system which is 22% (earnings up to £34,600) and 40% (earnings over £34,600).

[Panda Tse Tung]

Absolute must. Keep it mixed (as in letting a private sector operate) if you want, but make sure your State Health care system is in top notch so people can choose, and not left to die on the street when they have no insurance or money left.

Yes, a Human Right it is.
If you keep it mixed, you'll get British problems. With the good doctors going to the private clinics.

[Frantz Fanon]

its a crime to not have free healthcare in the usa in the richest country in the world, then again, america was founded on a heap of crimes so it is understandable

[Das war einmal]

There is no such thing as 'free' healthcare since there are high costs attached to health care. It should be affordable for every person. But one way or another, someone has to pay for these services. If it is the state then they need to pay for this by tax.

[Frantz Fanon]

or we could stop buying and selling medicine and such and eliminate cost.:)

[Schrödinger's Cat]

its a crime to not have free healthcare in the usa in the richest country in the world, then again, america was founded on a heap of crimes so it is understandable

Every country has been founded on great crimes. Trying to draw a connection between the two is a little naive.

[Frantz Fanon]

not really because the other great criminal is britain and even we have healthcare for free, where as America is still letting its citizens die if they are not well off

[Das war einmal]

What is interesting is how workers-controlled hospitals would function in a stateless society. In socialist states the state owned hospitals will probably buy medicine in large numbers. If a single hospital would order the same medicines but in a smaller number, these would be more expensive.

[Robocommie]

or we could stop buying and selling medicine and such and eliminate cost.:)

What the hell are you, some kind of Red? ;)

[Robocommie]

What is interesting is how workers-controlled hospitals would function in a stateless society. In socialist states the state owned hospitals will probably buy medicine in large numbers. If a single hospital would order the same medicines but in a smaller number, these would be more expensive.

I have to say I wonder how hospitals and doctors would even have any kind of quality control in a stateless society. Review boards and commissions to enforce standards, that kind of thing. Not to mention an equivalent of the FDA that cleared medicines and drugs for public consumption.

[Invincible Summer]

I have to say I wonder how hospitals and doctors would even have any kind of quality control in a stateless society. Review boards and commissions to enforce standards, that kind of thing. Not to mention an equivalent of the FDA that cleared medicines and drugs for public consumption.

I think that these commissions and such would still exist; worker's councils made up of people who care about ensuring that hospitals/doctors etc are operating properly can do such tasks.

Scientists with an interest in medicine can do the same duties in regards to new medicines and drugs.


This will sound naive, but I think lots of people who are in these health-sector jobs nowadays do it because they actually care about such things, not just for the money.