why do you believe?

[danyboy27]

a question for theist.
why do you believe in god?

[Robert]

So I can go to Heaven. (http://www.catholicreference.net/index.cfm?id=33880)

[mikelepore]

Robert, did you ever think about the general form of the logic when saying that?

As a formula for determining whether or not a proposition is true:

"Those who believe that the proposition is true will be rewarded. Therefore, the proposition is true."

That's the general form that it takes.

[greymatter]

1. You exist. WHOA MAN
2. The laws of physics. Find out what they are and then get back to me.
3. Synchronicity (If you have never experienced this, just try believing in it for a while)
4. Psilocybe cubensis
5. Lysergic acid diethylamide

[spiltteeth]

Robert, did you ever think about the general form of the logic when saying that?

As a formula for determining whether or not a proposition is true:

"Those who believe that the proposition is true will be rewarded. Therefore, the proposition is true."

That's the general form that it takes.

I feel when people say this they mean they have faith in God in the way a person faith in his/her partner.

So, why do I have faith in my partner? I don't have surveillance of her 24/7, but the answer is because I want a relationship with her, and a certain amount of trust and goodfaith is necessary to begin said relationship.

I believe because of personal experience mainly, plus I think there are a few reasons to believe in theism, and none for atheism

[danyboy27]

I feel when people say this they mean they have faith in God in the way a person faith in his/her partner.

So, why do I have faith in my partner? I don't have surveillance of her 24/7, but the answer is because I want a relationship with her, and a certain amount of trust and goodfaith is necessary to begin said relationship.

I believe because of personal experience mainly, plus I think there are a few reasons to believe in theism, and none for atheism

Unlike reality you cant have faith in something that dosnt exist.
i have faith in technology, beccause its exist.
i have confidence in my partner beccause she is real.

i already adressed in other thread your so called proofs.

[ComradeMan]

I don't believe in "God", I believe that "God" cannot be explained by a human mind and therefore I can't believe in him/her/it otherwise I would be creating my own "God" in which to believe. I believe there is "something" beyond ourselves that we cannot hope to explain and that some people throughout the ages have had some kind of revelation. It's more like I know there must be something but I don't know what it is. I certainly don't believe in the personification of God.

[Skooma Addict]

Unlike reality you cant have faith in something that dosnt exist.
i have faith in technology, beccause its exist.
i have confidence in my partner beccause she is real.

i already adressed in other thread your so called proofs.

How do you know that the reality that you perceive with your senses exists?

[Havet]

How do you know that the reality that you perceive with your senses exists?

Didn't we talk about this before?

[Skooma Addict]

Didn't we talk about this before?

Yes. But it is interesting and it dominates the topic of epistemology.

[danyboy27]

How do you know that the reality that you perceive with your senses exists?

maybe it dosnt. maybe we are just part of a big massive simulation.

maybe i will be killed by an unicorn next time i wait for the bus.

[ComradeMan]

I read an interesting article once by a guru by the name of Osho. I don't agree with everything he said or did but he does make some valid points here and there, in my opinion.

His basic point was this-

If you say you believe in something you basically deny it. What you are saying is that you want it to exist but you kind of admit that you don't know it does, therefore in a sense you deny it, which, in the case of God, is rather self-defeating.

I would qualify it by saying that we would actually have to define what we mean exactly by the word "believe". But I see what he was getting at.