Farc

[A.R.Amistad]

What is everyone's views on the FARC militias in Columbia? My understanding is that over the recent decade, they have become only nominal Marxists and are largely a peasantry militia that is ill disciplined and has no real revolutionary theory. I also don't like that they participate in the cocaine trade for financial support. To me, that's extremely capitalistic because the cocaine trade is very unethical and heavily tied with neoliberalism, laizzez faire capitalism etc. I also know that the Communist Party of Columbia actually has dissacosiated itself with FARC because of their ideological and practical deviations and their recklessness. Now the FARC is run by their own "Clandestine Communist Party" which seems to be very unssuccessful in applying Marxism to the struggle. But I'd like to hear from others who know more about this.

[red cat]

How are you so sure that they participate in cocaine trade?

[A.R.Amistad]

How are you so sure that they participate in cocaine trade?


I'm not sure about any of this that's why I want to learn.

[Mao Tse Tung]

they are revolutionary

[A.R.Amistad]

they are revolutionary


O.K. but I'm going to need more to go off of....

[red cat]

I'm not sure about any of this that's why I want to learn.
The "participation in the cocaine trade" thing is most likely to be, as in the case of the PCP, a lie concocted by US imperialists to justify their military intervention in Colombia against the FARC.

And that the FARC has broken with the PCC is not a big deal, since the PCC has at present failed to focus on armed struggle, which is the only way to liberation in any third-world country.

The FARC draws most of its cadres from the peasantry, but that is inevitable due to the rural nature of any third-world revolution. But in my opinion, since the FARC has continued over four decades as a mass-revolutionary organization, it is unlikely that class leadership is not being provided by the proletariat.

As far as their international line goes, I believe it was largely erroneous for the m to rely on revisionist powers, for which they have already paid with the loss of some of their greatest leaders. What is to be observed is that, the FARC, though being pro Cuba(atleast till last year), and not Maoist, does not follow focoism. Its strategy and tactics are much similar to those of Maoists instead. Also, it has correctly formulated the Colombian path for revolution, and have opposed Chavez and Castro's claims that revolution cannot be brought about in Latin America by guerrilla warfare anymore.

The FARC is presently fighting the US forces, and has been following a more or less correct line since the election of comrade Alfonso Cano as its leader, drawing the enemy troops into its strongholds. Also, despite lack of proper communication, FARC, or rather the Clandestine Communist Party of Colombia, enjoys ideological support by various Maoist parties.

[A.R.Amistad]

Are the cadres of guerrillas good and disciplined revolutionaries or do they have little knowledge of revolutionary socialist creed? This is important, even for a group engaged in armed combat. Without revolutionary theory, no revolutionary practice. Thats my main question and concern.

[Mao Tse Tung]

they are in the cocaine trade, so what who is it harming, forst world middle class coke heads, they make about 200 million a year off it, colombia is given 600 million every year in weapons and military equipment from the USA, its the only way farc can survive.

[A.R.Amistad]

they are in the cocaine trade, so what who is it harming,

Not true it also harms the workers who grow the Coca, many of whom are children

[Mao Tse Tung]

how does it harm them, it dosent, it harms imperialist countries.
The farc are great revolutionaries, al jazeera have a doc called dining with terrorists, the episode is called americas back yard, shows farc and their activities, the guy reporting loves them

[Spawn of Stalin]

How does it harm imperialist countries?

[red cat]

Comrades, this argument has taken a wrong turn.

http://naxalrevolution.wordpress.com/category/farc/

[el_chavista]

Anyhow, the FARC are becoming the first line of armed defense of nationalist revolutions in South America against imperial military intervention and US army bases in Colombia.

[red cat]

Anyhow, the FARC are becoming the first line of armed defense of nationalist revolutions in South America against imperial military intervention and US army bases in Colombia.
It's more than that. A mere nationalist movement wouldn't have survived so long.

[LeninistKing]

Hello my friends: indeed, i haven't seen any scientific-evidence and proof that FARC participates in drug-smuggling, however we don't have absolute 100% truths of things in this world. I don't think that FARC participates in drug smuggling, but who knows? they could, you know how corrupt and weak minded are humans, and a leftist rebel is still a human. So my personal opinion about FARC participating in drug-smuggling is that they don't or they do participate in it. We are not 100% sure.


leninistking



How are you so sure that they participate in cocaine trade?

[LeninistKing]

However, from sources i've heard the real drug-smugglers in that region are the Colombian Paramilitary and the government.




It's more than that. A mere nationalist movement wouldn't have survived so long.

[Spawn of Stalin]

Not to mention the CIA.

[The Ungovernable Farce]

Anyhow, the FARC are becoming the first line of armed defense of nationalist revolutions in South America against imperial military intervention and US army bases in Colombia.
May well be true. Why exactly should communists support nationalism?

It's more than that. A mere nationalist movement wouldn't have survived so long.
Really? You think it's impossible for a nationalist movement to survive for an extended period of time? Surviving for a long time proves that you're not nationalist? :unsure: How would you categorise, for instance, the Ulster Volunteer Force, who've been around since the 60s?

[red cat]

Really? You think it's impossible for a nationalist movement to survive for an extended period of time? Surviving for a long time proves that you're not nationalist? :unsure: How would you categorise, for instance, the Ulster Volunteer Force, who've been around since the 60s?
What differentiates FARC these nationalist groups is that it has a mass base and is comparatively larger(the primary and secondary forces of the FARC consisted of atleast 18,000 combatants, before the direct involvement of the US). Plus, it adheres to Marxism at least officially. In any country where the proletariat exists(that is, every country), this kind of movements are most likely to undergo a change in class-leadership if they survive for long and vice-versa.

[-Marxist-Leninist-Maoist-]

Aljazeera show that they participate in the drug trade.
Dining With Terrorists: America's Backyard. 17 Feb 09 - Pt 1
Its on youtube, but it also explains why they are forced into it by having to raise enough money to be able to fight the colombian AF who are given hundreds of millions of dollars in military aid from the USA to crush FARC.
It is my opinion that FARC are revolutionary, despite what Fox news and rupert murdock say.