Just read "Anarchism" by Eltzbacher

[Rusty Shackleford]

It included an essay on Anarcho-Syndicalism by Rudolph Rocker. i have to say it was probably the best part. I think im on the verge of finding a tendency i can mostly agree with instead of floating between a botched view of marxism-leninism and anarchism. :D

I felt sick reading Stirner and Tucker though.

This book is pretty good though if you want to get a sort of rudimentary introduction to Godwin, Proudhon, Stirner, Bakunin, Kropotkin, Tucker, and Tolstoy though. Just dont read the the chapter by the author just spouting his views about anarchism. the overviews of the 7 anarchists though was unbiased and VERY WELL done.

[Stranger Than Paradise]

Don't worry about Stirner and Tucker. They are completely irrelevant to Class Struggle Anarchism.

[revolution inaction]

Don't worry about Stirner and Tucker. They are completely irrelevant to Class Struggle Anarchism.

anachists who dont support class struggle are like scientists who think the sun goes round the earth

[Stranger Than Paradise]

anachists who dont support class struggle are like scientists who think the sun goes round the earth

Yeah exactly. I cringe when one of these people is described as an Anarchist or when someone on this board uses their theories as criticism for Anarchism.

[JazzRemington]

Are you talking about The Great Anarchists? I think that was originally written by Tucker way back when. It was alright, but didn't go as in-depth as it could have, I think.

[Искра]

anachists who dont support class struggle are like scientists who think the sun goes round the earth
Can I put that in my signature?
Beautiful statement!:thumbup1:

[Искра]

It included an essay on Anarcho-Syndicalism by Rudolph Rocker. i have to say it was probably the best part. I think im on the verge of finding a tendency i can mostly agree with instead of floating between a botched view of marxism-leninism and anarchism. :D

Hell yeah to anarcho-syndicalism! :thumbup:

[Tifosi]

Has anyone got a link to this book? Just finished reading ABC of Anarchism, it's not to bad an idea if I do say so myself:cool:

[Rusty Shackleford]

Has anyone got a link to this book? Just finished reading ABC of Anarchism, it's not to bad an idea if I do say so myself:cool:

The book i found was in my campus library. published in 1964 i THINK. it was old. I found it on google books (http://books.google.com/books?printsec=frontcover&vid=LCCN08005260#v=onepage&q=&f=false), its pretty much a photo copy of the book translated by a different person, and does not include the essay on anarcho-syndicalism (http://libcom.org/library/anarcho-syndicalism-rudolf-rocker) (from LibCom)

but, its more of an overview of the 19th century anarchists for the most part. The edition i found was translated by tucker and edited by someone later on and was later included with the Rudolph Rocker essay(written in the 50s i believe).


Are you talking about The Great Anarchists? I think that was originally written by Tucker way back when. It was alright, but didn't go as in-depth as it could have, I think.

This book was originally called Der Anarchismus by Paul Eltzbacher. i guess it covers the "great" anarchists if you mean the major anarchists.




About Tucker and Stirner... i still loathe those egoist bastards.


About the Kropotkin section though. there was something along the lines of the "Latin" races being more advanced in social evolution, and also how communes will consist of "like-minded" individuals which instantly made me thing of National Anarchists. Im sure they just misconstrued Kropotkin's statements though.

[JazzRemington]

This book was originally called Der Anarchismus by Paul Eltzbacher. i guess it covers the "great" anarchists if you mean the major anarchists.

I don't know, the one I'm talking about is this one. (http://www.amazon.com/Great-Anarchists-Ideas-Teachings-Thinkers/dp/0486436322/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1258514102&sr=8-1)

[Rusty Shackleford]

I don't know, the one I'm talking about is this one. (http://www.amazon.com/Great-Anarchists-Ideas-Teachings-Thinkers/dp/0486436322/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1258514102&sr=8-1)

i guess its the same one haha. i guess they were just titled differently.

[Drace]

Is ABCs of Anarchism found on the internet?

Apparently no library in my city has it.

[Rusty Shackleford]

Is ABCs of Anarchism found on the internet?

Apparently no library in my city has it.

I think this is it (http://www.lucyparsonsproject.org/anarchism/berkman_abc_of_anarchism.html)

im going to have to give it a read some time.

[Drace]

Seems short for a book eh?

[Rusty Shackleford]

well, the communist manifesto was merely a pamphlet(compared to Kapital:lol:) yet it is one of the most influential books around.

The Principles of Communism is also quite a short read.

Most of the time, radical works are meant to be short and concise for the reader's comfort, producability, and ease of dispersion... at least thats my view on it.

You can get a lot out of short works.

[Drace]

Well I was just doubting whether that was the actual book.
But if it is, I have no problem with it!

[Stranger Than Paradise]

This is the complete version: http://dwardmac.pitzer.edu/Anarchist_Archives/bright/berkman/comanarchism/whatis_toc.html

[Rusty Shackleford]

if i cant find that at my campus library ill probably read that online. does it just cover anarcho-communism or what?

[Stranger Than Paradise]

if i cant find that at my campus library ill probably read that online. does it just cover anarcho-communism or what?

Yes it is an outline of Anarchist Communism.

If you want to know more about Anarcho-Syndicalism look no further than Anarcho-Syndicalism: Theory and Practice by Rudolf Rocker.

[The Ungovernable Farce]

Out of the 7 covered in that book, I'd say that only Kropotkin, Bakunin, and maybe some of Proudhon at a stretch have any influence over the practice of organised revolutionary anarchist movements today. That book sounds like a pretty poor starting point. Tolstoy was a good novelist, and I'm sure his ideas were lovely in the abstract, but like Stirner and Tucker, he had absolutely fuck-all to say that had any relevance to people actually struggling to transform society.

[Pogue]

Rocker sounds like the only one in there worth listening too.

[revolution inaction]

Can I put that in my signature?


Yes, if you want to us it thats good :)


Beautiful statement!:thumbup1:

thanks :cool:

[Ravachol]

anachists who dont support class struggle are like scientists who think the sun goes round the earth

In fact, it's not even possible. One cannot be considered an Anarchist if one does not support class struggle. Class Struggle, against wage-slavery and the accompanying authoritarian labor relations, is simply part of the broader Anti-Authoritarian struggle. Not supporting it simply makes you inconsistent and not much of an Anarchist actually. This is also part of several reasons why Anarcho-Capitalism (because of it's opposition to class struggle) and National Anarchism (with it's focus on national unity and working-class dividing racist politics) cannot be considered Anarchist.