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Pogue
15th November 2009, 18:30
I want people to talk here of social interactions they see on a daily basis that make them cringe or lament the state of human society.
I'll start.
#1 - Theres a girl at college whose clearly very popular based on her looks, etc, kinda like the character from the UK show Skins, Effy, and theres a gaggle of lads who will hang around her all the time, and its clear what every single one of them is trying to do, and its cringy watching them, with their gelled up hair and expensive clothes, trying to impress her, truly cringy.
Your turn!
NecroCommie
15th November 2009, 19:21
Everytime people ask anyone different: "how did you come up with this style/art/behaviour of yours" clearly indicating their lack of competence to understand anything that does not fit into the mainstream culture. That, and usually the tendencies of these same individuals to completely ignore everything new and different because being "normal" is so much easier.
Yes, that is right. I am not a huge fan of cultural conformity. I would delight in a world where every person would surprise and stagger with their originality. As it happens, I live in a world of dull nitwits. :(
h0m0revolutionary
15th November 2009, 19:24
Oh I just randomly threw myself on the floor. Look at me being totally random by inserting random adjectives into sentences. I'm going to fill my myspace page with the word random to assert my coolness. Am I cool now?
NecroCommie
15th November 2009, 19:25
Oh come on! That's so random! :D
RHIZOMES
15th November 2009, 19:32
Oh I just randomly threw myself on the floor. Look at me being totally random by inserting random adjectives into sentences. I'm going to fill my myspace page with the word random to assert my coolness. Am I cool now?
Sporks!!!!!!111
hugsandmarxism
15th November 2009, 19:41
I did a little social experiment to test people's perceptiveness to the environment around them once. In the lobby of one of the buildings on campus, there is a door button (for handicapped persons to use to open the door) situated right infront of a couch. If i sit there, my head conceals the presence of the button, and I can press the button to open the door for people. Half of people didn't notice anything wrong with the "magic door," a few less paused for a moment, and one guy was weirded out completely until he saw from outside the blue button behind my head and shouted "AHA! YOU SNEAKY BASTARD!"
-sigh- How are we supposed to wake people up to the horrors of capitalism, if they can't even conjure up the will to observe their own environment? Jeez... :closedeyes:
Tyrlop
15th November 2009, 19:51
in the other hand its just so post-modern to be individualist, but i'm a hypocrite anyway.
Jazzratt
15th November 2009, 20:11
There is a tendency for people, especially young people, to attempt to assert their individuality/"uniqueness" aggressively. A lot of people try very hard to be unusual because there is a perception that all it takes to be interesting is to reject "normalcy" out of hand. It's this kind of thing that leads to "random" people. The really pathetic thing is that everyone is a unique individual anyway and they don't have to engage in this inane behaviour but they do it anyway. It gets even worse when they try to illustarte their "non-conformity" by pointing at the behaviour of 'normals' (watching telly, drinking lager, having friends or whatever) and condemning it out of hand as a stupid waste of time.
Dr. Rosenpenis
16th November 2009, 00:12
pop semantics: the misuse of the word "random" by supposedly literate people is probably the gravest problem facing the world today
even worse than capitalism
Wanted Man
16th November 2009, 00:15
Fellow first year students who just graduated high school and think they're hot shit. So they constantly feel the need to correct teachers on things that don't need correcting at all. When the teacher then points out the error of their ways, they frantically search their notebooks, only to finally realise that, yes, they were wrong and the teacher was right. Pricks, wasting the time of the other 99 people in the room. If their interjections, even when wrong, were educative in any way, I wouldn't mind. But these people are too dumb to take a shit, so one can't really expect that.
Honggweilo
16th November 2009, 00:31
pop semantics: the misuse of the word "random" by supposedly literate people is probably the gravest problem facing the world today
even worse than capitalism
thats totally random dude
9
16th November 2009, 00:32
This is a behavior that every Jew I know attributes to the stereotypical 'goy', but the point remains.
My supervisor is a lazy pile of shit. She spends most of her time at work on the internet registering with online dating services and trying to seduce men she doesn't know through the internet. Then she leaves randomly throughout the day, when she's supposed to be helping out at the lab, to go on dates with men she met through the internet. She never gives us raises. She flips out about us working overtime, when we have little choice if we're going to finish running all the samples since we all have to cover her ass and the work she doesn't do. And so, here is the point: I talk to my co-workers about it, about how we deserve raises, about how she has no right to lecture us about working too much overtime when she doesn't even do her fucking share, about how she shouldn't be spending her time at the lab on dating services on the internet, and of course all my co-workers agree with me and talk all kinds of shit about her. So then, the supervisor comes in, and I go to confront her about it, and I start giving her all kinds of shit, and no one has my fucking back. They suddenly become docile little lambs who have no opinion on the matter. I love goyim, but god damn, grow a fucking back bone. :closedeyes:
Wanted Man
16th November 2009, 00:46
Another interesting sociological phenomenon that I keep wondering about: very often, when people are travelling abroad, they are very preoccupied with the whole "authenticity" of the experience; they want to be above the lazy slob tourists. I can sympathize to the extent that it's not very nice to be stuck in a place with horrific food, French or Australian beer (or Amstel!) and the company of fat sweaty tourists, but it's usually beyond that.
It's the entire idea that the country you're in has a particular "national identity", and any place you go must adhere to it. Only, it should not do so overtly, or it's just stereotyping for silly tourists. The first time I thought of this was while walking through Edinburgh with my family, who disliked some of the "typical tourist crap", but were perfectly happy to waste time in souvenir shops (with the Red Hot Chilli Pipers blaring through the store constantly), looking for a nice "authentic" tartan scarf or whatever.
gorillafuck
16th November 2009, 01:09
There is a tendency for people, especially young people, to attempt to assert their individuality/"uniqueness" aggressively. A lot of people try very hard to be unusual because there is a perception that all it takes to be interesting is to reject "normalcy" out of hand. It's this kind of thing that leads to "random" people. The really pathetic thing is that everyone is a unique individual anyway and they don't have to engage in this inane behaviour but they do it anyway. It gets even worse when they try to illustarte their "non-conformity" by pointing at the behaviour of 'normals' (watching telly, drinking lager, having friends or whatever) and condemning it out of hand as a stupid waste of time.
A kid came to my school once dressed as a chicken about two weeks ago. I asked why and he said "why not?". That seems like a good example of what you're referring to.
Something that some people are like and I used to be like (and I'm certainly not proud of it) is people that think everything is stupid or sucks and are vocal about things they dislike (and are also generally smart-asses).
Jazzratt
16th November 2009, 01:17
A kid came to my school once dressed as a chicken about two weeks ago. I asked why and he said "why not?". That seems like a good example of what you're referring to.[quote]
Yeah, sort of. A bit of an extreme example.
[quote]Something that some people are like and I used to be like (and I'm certainly not proud of it) is people that think everything is stupid or sucks and are vocal about things they dislike (and are also generally smart-asses).
I resent this. I take great pleasure in being curmudgeonly and angry about everything or, if not everything, a great many things. Also being a smart-ass is great fun.
RHIZOMES
16th November 2009, 01:18
Fellow first year students who just graduated high school and think they're hot shit.
Oh god yes, I'm glad I finished my first year so I'm no longer associated with those shits
A kid came to my school once dressed as a chicken about two weeks ago. I asked why and he said "why not?". That seems like a good example of what you're referring to.
That's awesome
which doctor
16th November 2009, 01:44
thats totally random dude
beat me to it...
black magick hustla
16th November 2009, 07:32
i am such a shitty misanthrope that this thread is just screaming for my participation
theater people are the worst. i went to an improv troupe party and one of them claimed they were special because they made politically incorrect jokes in their perfomances. then some kid started to talk to me about ying yang while taking a long drag of a cigarrete. he also started talking about paradigms. i just wanted to do an enormous facepalm and went outside to booze myself up and kill myself with nicotine.
in halloween there was a big amount of douchebags dressing as "mexicans" with tequila and big fuckin sombreros and panchos. it was the equivalent of a big goddamn parade of blackface except for brown folk. i was drunk and beligerent and went nuts on one in a party.
ZeroNowhere
16th November 2009, 08:19
The vast majority of those involving Twilight.
A kid came to my school once dressed as a chicken about two weeks ago. I asked why and he said "why not?". That seems like a good example of what you're referring to.No, that's just an example of dressing like a chicken. Nothing wrong with that.
And talking about dressing and chicken reminds me: Horrible puns.
New Tet
16th November 2009, 08:23
I want people to talk here of social interactions they see on a daily basis that make them cringe or lament the state of human society.
I'll start.
#1 - Theres a girl at college whose clearly very popular based on her looks, etc, kinda like the character from the UK show Skins, Effy, and theres a gaggle of lads who will hang around her all the time, and its clear what every single one of them is trying to do, and its cringy watching them, with their gelled up hair and expensive clothes, trying to impress her, truly cringy.
Your turn!
So how do you go about getting a little pussy now and then?
Rusty Shackleford
16th November 2009, 09:21
So how do you go about getting a little pussy now and then?
does everyone need to crowd around one girl? is that how were supposed to do it?
What pisses me off is dipshits who go into public bathrooms and either
A) Pull all the hand paper out of the dispenser and throws it in the sink to plug it
B) Puts all of the toilet paper in the toilet
C) Throws paper everywhere
D) Leaves all the faucets on
E) at the worst moment, tears down the box of that paper you put on the toilet seat and put it all over the pissy ground.
or the assholes that just leave trash everywhere outside and in public places.
seriously. i was sitting in the cafeteria on my campus and someone spilled a drink. well, i figured they were going to get it. i come back an hour and a half later and all of their trash and the spill were still there.
ZeroNowhere
16th November 2009, 10:13
A) Pull all the hand paper out of the dispenser and throws it in the sink to plug it
B) Puts all of the toilet paper in the toiletDefinitely. Plus (or not so much) points for shitting in it first.
NecroCommie
16th November 2009, 10:22
A kid came to my school once dressed as a chicken about two weeks ago. I asked why and he said "why not?". That seems like a good example of what you're referring to.
If this is what he was referring to, then I have to disagree. Thats just awesome! I would love to shake hands with this individual. :laugh:
So how do you go about getting a little pussy now and then?
Some of us control our hormones, and feel no need to demean ourselves by acting like mindless walking cocks.
Pogue
16th November 2009, 11:02
So how do you go about getting a little pussy now and then?
I go down to the pet store.
Pogue
16th November 2009, 11:03
Theres too many of these to list, i just realised
ZeroNowhere
16th November 2009, 11:05
Thats just awesome!
Some of us control our hormones, and feel no need to demean ourselves by acting like mindless walking cocks.You see no contradiction here?
NecroCommie
16th November 2009, 12:04
None whatsoever.
RHIZOMES
16th November 2009, 12:39
None whatsoever.
Mindless walking cocks...
dressed like a chicken...
http://cdn0.knowyourmeme.com/i/1582/original/picard-facepalm.jpg
Jazzratt
16th November 2009, 12:40
I don't know if you should be facepalming Necro's inability to spot puns or the sheer lameness of the pun in question.
Go for both, I say.
NecroCommie
16th November 2009, 12:40
Mindless walking cocks...
dressed like a chicken...
This is because with mindless walking cocks I refer to people only interested in procreating and nothing else. I do not know how liking dudes dressing as chickens is opposed to that.
Jazzratt
16th November 2009, 12:43
This is because with mindless walking cocks I refer to people only interested in procreating and nothing else. I do not know how liking dudes dressing as chickens is opposed to that.
Jesus. It was spelled out for you: it's a wordlplay based on the fact that 'cock' is short for 'cockrel' a male chicken as in "cock fighting".
NecroCommie
16th November 2009, 15:13
Aha-aha. Excuse me for not having english as my native language... :glare:
Honggweilo
16th November 2009, 15:31
Jesus. It was spelled out for you: it's a wordlplay based on the fact that 'cock' is short for 'cockrel' a male chicken as in "cock fighting".
popsociology: anglosaxon grammarnazi's, whats up with that? :rolleyes:
Wanted Man
16th November 2009, 16:08
Another interesting thing I noticed during class today. We have a new teacher. A good teacher and a funny guy. The lectures include some 100 people, who are divided into work groups who meet later during the week. Now, it seems that the teacher is mostly funny and nice to the people from one particular group. Not coincidentally, these especially include the students who keep kissing his ass.
I don't like teachers who pick favourites, and who are only really nice to those who take the effort of getting a brown arm or nose.
rednordman
16th November 2009, 16:25
To be fair, im starting to get pissed off the amount of people who ask me 'how i am?', because it is some kind of unwritten law, that you say 'OK' in response. Otherwise people are either totally uninterested, completely thrown or even offended(?- Im being serious here, aswell).
As a result it means that I lie every single day. No wonder religion doesnt work well anymore when you have to sin everyday to avoid getting viewed as a miserable prick by others.
RHIZOMES
16th November 2009, 20:23
Aha-aha. Excuse me for not having english as my native language... :glare:
Ah sorry comrade
RHIZOMES
16th November 2009, 20:24
Another interesting thing I noticed during class today. We have a new teacher. A good teacher and a funny guy. The lectures include some 100 people, who are divided into work groups who meet later during the week. Now, it seems that the teacher is mostly funny and nice to the people from one particular group. Not coincidentally, these especially include the students who keep kissing his ass.
I don't like teachers who pick favourites, and who are only really nice to those who take the effort of getting a brown arm or nose.
My senior high school English teacher picked me as her favourite it was so embarassing
Wanted Man
16th November 2009, 22:49
English teachers in high school usually liked me, although they were quite sad that I hardly ever did any homework. Now that I study English, it depends per teacher. I don't have as much contact with all of them, obviously. But there's one subject where we spend a lot of time studying the media and the like, which is right up my alley, since I've done Journalism before. The teacher for that subject is 25-30 years old, long blond hair, and kind of cute. I wonder... :lol:
Honggweilo
17th November 2009, 02:25
The teacher for that subject is 25-30 years old, long blond hair, and kind of cute. I wonder... :lol: Wonder what? thats pretty open for speculation..... suspicous.... Wonder if you could.. PUT YOUR MALE CHAUVINISM IN HER ****?? ban for sexism!
Glenn Beck
17th November 2009, 06:35
popsociology: anglosaxon grammarnazi's, whats up with that? :rolleyes:
Their language sucks and makes no fucking sense so they take it out on the rest of us when we all have to learn it which is bad enough as it is because capitalism blah blah run on sentence
RHIZOMES
17th November 2009, 06:40
Their language sucks and makes no fucking sense so they take it out on the rest of us when we all have to learn it which is bad enough as it is because capitalism blah blah run on sentence
I hate grammar nazis, they're completely oblivious to the whole "a language is a dialect with an army and a navy" concept i.e. what is considered "correct" language is basically the dialect rich people speak.
Patchd
17th November 2009, 09:09
I did a little social experiment to test people's perceptiveness to the environment around them once. In the lobby of one of the buildings on campus, there is a door button (for handicapped persons to use to open the door) situated right infront of a couch. If i sit there, my head conceals the presence of the button, and I can press the button to open the door for people. Half of people didn't notice anything wrong with the "magic door," a few less paused for a moment, and one guy was weirded out completely until he saw from outside the blue button behind my head and shouted "AHA! YOU SNEAKY BASTARD!"
-sigh- How are we supposed to wake people up to the horrors of capitalism, if they can't even conjure up the will to observe their own environment? Jeez... :closedeyes:
LOL, this sounds fun :tt2:
Wanted Man
17th November 2009, 09:13
Wonder what? thats pretty open for speculation..... suspicous.... Wonder if you could.. PUT YOUR MALE CHAUVINISM IN HER ****?? ban for sexism!
I'll help you: the fact that I called her "cute" is demeaning. BAN! It would be almost as bad as referring to her as "a girl". :eek:
ZeroNowhere
17th November 2009, 09:29
Mindless walking cocks...
dressed like a chicken...
http://cdn0.knowyourmeme.com/i/1582/original/picard-facepalm.jpg
I believe that is ample demonstration of my point.
Tyrlop
17th November 2009, 15:57
i hate those people out there, internet rude boys out there in the internet who are so individualist and they insult everything and think they are kings of the world, usually people from Great Britain, use the words like FAIL, and EPIC.
Pirate turtle the 11th
17th November 2009, 17:05
People and Things I fucking hate.
Fucking dickheads I hate dickheads pricks the lot of them got no brains and try to act macho only to pussy out when it comes down to it pricks. Fucking kill yourselves and get out of my law class.
Shit teachers , if you don't have the backbone to teach stop wasting my time , if your not going to turn up to a lesson because you have a uni interview , stop wasting my god damn motherfucking time.
Old people on the bus , I don't care if your going to be dead soon get the fuck out of my way and stop pushing infront line up like the rest of the damn fucking world
Drug twats - no you don't need to get the bus with your mum who neeeds to get to hospital you need two money so that dealer dosen't break your legs , fuck off.
Half wits with fucking guns and kinves well done you bought a hangdun off your dealer that will probably blow up in your face is you ever pull the trigger , well fucking done , twat or prehaps they have knives to make up for their tiny pricks , wankers.
Bus drivers - cheer up you bastards
People who like people I like - Fuck you
The rest of the world can also suck my nob
FUCK YOU EVERYONE
Panda Tse Tung
17th November 2009, 18:09
White petit-bourgeoisie kids pretending to be ghetto.
Invincible Summer
17th November 2009, 19:48
This is turning into the "denounce what you want" thread
Dr. Rosenpenis
17th November 2009, 19:50
white petit bourgeois people in general innit?
Panda Tse Tung
17th November 2009, 20:33
white petit bourgeois people in general innit?
True that, but it was about pop sociology :p
Lyev
17th November 2009, 21:20
I want people to talk here of social interactions they see on a daily basis that make them cringe or lament the state of human society.
I'll start.
#1 - Theres a girl at college whose clearly very popular based on her looks, etc, kinda like the character from the UK show Skins, Effy, and theres a gaggle of lads who will hang around her all the time, and its clear what every single one of them is trying to do, and its cringy watching them, with their gelled up hair and expensive clothes, trying to impress her, truly cringy.
Your turn!
Wow, there's loads of people exactly how you've described at my school. There is one particular guy, that I was talking to today in fact. It is very cringey watching him trying to pull some poor girl; the hug after he's finished talking to her is probably something he's gonna save for his wank bank. Saying that though, they're all relatively nice people, although the only reason they'll talk to a girl, is ultimately, to try and get laid. Or to insult her about her looks, one particular word I hate is 'sket'.
I've got an example that kind of links in to what people have been saying about those 'rand0m!! lol0l chheeese (cheese is funny and rand0m))!!111shift' people. There's this girl I once talked to at school who had pink, black and stripy gloves on, you know the ones, and kept on calling me dude, and then promptly told me to 'rock on' as I started walking away. I think she also had a studded belt; cos she's part of the alternative, non-conformist, edgy counter-culture.
I hate grammar nazis, they're completely oblivious to the whole "a language is a dialect with an army and a navy" concept i.e. what is considered "correct" language is basically the dialect rich people speak.
And my bro is exactly this, it's how he gets his kicks, he'll jump on absolutely any error in my language. Although I think it's partly cos he has small man syndrome, you know?
RHIZOMES
17th November 2009, 22:03
i hate those people out there, internet rude boys out there in the internet who are so individualist and they insult everything and think they are kings of the world, usually people from Great Britain, use the words like FAIL, and EPIC.
Isn't just limited to Great Britain, those fuckers are all over the English-speaking world. Well at least my University.
mykittyhasaboner
17th November 2009, 22:20
There's this tendency for people who come in (or drive thru :rolleyes::lol:) to the restaurant where I work to lack the simplest manners and respect. I'm not one to judge people on how they act, because I really don't care all too much, but when you have to deal with this kind of crap, everyday you work, it gets fucking annoying. What's so wrong with saying "thank you"? Seriously..its like they want us to spit in their food, which I would never do but goddammit i want to just curse some of them out to the point where they start crying.
ZeroNowhere
18th November 2009, 08:55
And my bro is exactly this, it's how he gets his kicks, he'll jump on absolutely any error in my language. Although I think it's partly cos he has small man syndrome, you know?
"In one's household, it is the women and the small men that are difficult to deal with."
-Confucius, reportedly.
Bilan
18th November 2009, 11:27
So how do you go about getting a little pussy now and then?
You are repulsive.
Bilan
18th November 2009, 11:28
White petit-bourgeoisie kids pretending to be ghetto.
Do you know what petit-bourgeois and ghetto mean?
Bilan
18th November 2009, 11:35
I hate socialists who feel the need to: have a goatee (What is wrong with you?), long hair in a pony tail (or not in a pony tail. Either way, you look shit. Get a haircut), and who wear any socialist leader or symbols on their clothes (That ranges from a shitty hammer and sickle to a picture of Mao, Marx, Kropotkin, or anyone else).
And it seems to be very common. It's almost like it's the "student-socialist" look. Awful. Every socialist group has them.
Also, I find it weird how anarchists feel the need to adorn themselves in patches proving just how anarchist they are.
Trotskyists tend to be the strangest people though. They fit the above socialist appearance (ugly facial hair, ugly normal hair, and just a generally annoying socialist/hippy look). Even when they approach me with their god-awful pamphlets I want to run away before I even hear them say anything.
And they have this methodology where they think it works to shout random lefty sounding things at you.
"Support gay marriage"
"Stop the occupation of the NT!"
etc.
All while I'm just trying to eat my fucking sandwich.
Assholes.
Panda Tse Tung
18th November 2009, 12:25
Do you know what petit-bourgeois and ghetto mean?
No at all, explain pl0x.
Bilan
18th November 2009, 13:17
I'll give you a hint. Petit-bourgeois does not mean "middle class" in the income sense, and ghetto is not a style - though both are commonly associated with what they're not.
Panda Tse Tung
18th November 2009, 13:20
I'll give you a hint. Petit-bourgeois does not mean "middle class" in the income sense, and ghetto is not a style - though both are commonly associated with what they're not.
Petit-bourgeouisie is small business-owners (strictly speaking without employees, though some use the term more vaguely). And in the Ghetto's there is a different sub-culture then outside of them. So you do know what i mean with that.
So yes, i know what i said. I could've said middle-class, but that doesn't annoy me as much as kids who's dads are really petit-bourgeouisie.
Bilan
18th November 2009, 13:47
Petit-bourgeouisie is small business-owners (strictly speaking without employees, though some use the term more vaguely). And in the Ghetto's there is a different sub-culture then outside of them. So you do know what i mean with that.
So yes, i know what i said. I could've said middle-class, but that doesn't annoy me as much as kids who's dads are really petit-bourgeouisie.
You could've said, and should've said that (or something along those lines) because it would've made more sense.
I don't care. I just hate people who use the words 'petit-bourgeois' like that. Shits me.
Panda Tse Tung
18th November 2009, 14:02
Fair enough.
which doctor
18th November 2009, 15:11
I see so many god damn black north face jackets every god damn day now that it's fall. I swear they're the most commonly owned item at my university. Originality is not something the student body aims for. I spend my time in lectures counting to see how many I can spot.
RHIZOMES
19th November 2009, 02:53
long hair in a pony tail (or not in a pony tail. Either way, you look shit. Get a haircut), and who wear any socialist leader or symbols on their clothes (That ranges from a shitty hammer and sickle to a picture of Mao, Marx, Kropotkin, or anyone else).
And it seems to be very common. It's almost like it's the "student-socialist" look. Awful. Every socialist group has them
:blushing:
Il Medico
19th November 2009, 04:16
I hate socialists who feel the need to: have a goatee (What is wrong with you?), long hair in a pony tail (or not in a pony tail. Either way, you look shit. Get a haircut), and who wear any socialist leader or symbols on their clothes (That ranges from a shitty hammer and sickle to a picture of Mao, Marx, Kropotkin, or anyone else).
And it seems to be very common. It's almost like it's the "student-socialist" look. Awful. Every socialist group has them.
I dressed like that about 2 years ago, maybe a year in a half. Had the long dirty looking hair (not that I didn't wash it, it just seemed to look dirty all the time). Had a full beard and later a goatee. Wore a Cuban beret and Che shirt and just generally looked awful.
bcbm
19th November 2009, 04:25
I just hate people who use the words 'petit-bourgeois' like that. Shits me. better than people who say "petty bourgeois." its french, dipshits.
which doctor
19th November 2009, 05:36
better than people who say "petty bourgeois." its french, dipshits.
I just wrote a paper for class and I used petit-bourgeios on numerous occasions. At least I knew I sounded pretentious, but I really couldn't think of another approporiate word! at least I didn't anglicize it and change petit to petty, but maybe that just made me sound more pretentious, I don't even know anymore!
ZeroNowhere
19th November 2009, 09:14
better than people who say "petty bourgeois." its french, dipshits.
We should restrict people for spelling it like that. And ban them for doing that while misusing it as a silly slur.
We can call it 'The Purge'.
strictly speaking without employees, though some use the term more vaguelyI'm fairly sure that's incorrect.
Honggweilo
19th November 2009, 09:54
better than people who say "petty bourgeois." its french, dipshits.
a funny thing is, bourgeois in dutch is bugerlijk, and burger also means citizen. So bourgeois and citizen mean the same thing, see how class interest is rooted in our language :rolleyes:
ok thats my little sociology fact for today!
Honggweilo
19th November 2009, 10:01
Also, this time magazine article from 1950 about a communist muncipality in the Netherlands
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,813964,00.html
Main obstacle in the Communists' path is a steady, soft-spoken Socialist named Harm Tuin who is the Crown-appointed burgomaster of Finsterwolde. Burgomaster (http://www.revleft.com/vb/Burgomaster)??? is that in the english dictionary?? in dutch Burgemeester means Mayor, but why the hell would they translate that as "Burgomaster"? Sounds like a skilled worker at Burger King..
Panda Tse Tung
19th November 2009, 12:49
a funny thing is, bourgeois in dutch is bugerlijk, and burger also means citizen. So bourgeois and citizen mean the same thing, see how class interest is rooted in our language :rolleyes:
ok thats my little sociology fact for today!
Actually the word bourgeouisie was derived from a similar German word. Which could be translated similarly. Idk why Marx made it French though, maybe he was in France at the time or something.
Rusty Shackleford
19th November 2009, 12:52
Actually the word bourgeouisie was derived from a similar German word. Which could be translated similarly. Idk why Marx made it French though, maybe he was in France at the time or something.
about the term Bourgeoisie. Does it have anything to do with the House of Burgesses (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Burgesses)?
Panda Tse Tung
19th November 2009, 12:55
about the term Bourgeoisie. Does it have anything to do with the House of Burgesses (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Burgesses)?
Idk, it's a pretty vague memory of me reading somewhere where the word came from.
But i don't think so, since it's new world stuff.
edit: according to wikipedia it's this:
Bourgeoisie is a French (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_language) word that was borrowed directly into English (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_language) in the specific sense described above. In the French feudal order (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feudalism) pre-revolution, "bourgeois" was a class of citizens who were wealthier members of the Third Estate (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_Estate). The French word bourgeois evolved from the Old French (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_French_language) word burgeis, meaning "an inhabitant of a town" (cf. Middle English (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middle_English) burgeis, Middle Dutch (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middle_Dutch_language) burgher and German (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_language) Bürger). The Old French word burgeis is derived from bourg, meaning a market town (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Market_town) or medieval village, itself derived from Old Frankish (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Frankish) burg, meaning "town (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Town)".[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bourgeoisie#cite_note-0)
So i could be wrong. But it's still the exact same meaning as 'burgerij' in dutch.
Wanted Man
19th November 2009, 13:08
Also, this time magazine article from 1950 about a communist muncipality in the Netherlands
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,813964,00.html
Burgomaster (http://www.revleft.com/vb/Burgomaster)??? is that in the english dictionary?? in dutch Burgemeester means Mayor, but why the hell would they translate that as "Burgomaster"? Sounds like a skilled worker at Burger King..
"Burgomaster" used to be the English translation for the word for "mayor" in several Germanic languages. I don't think it's used anymore.
bcbm
19th November 2009, 13:09
I just wrote a paper for class and I used petit-bourgeios on numerous occasions. At least I knew I sounded pretentious, but I really couldn't think of another approporiate word! at least I didn't anglicize it and change petit to petty, but maybe that just made me sound more pretentious, I don't even know anymore!
if you're using it properly, i don't think its pretentious. i think changing it to the anglicized version makes you a huge tool, so good call there.
ZeroNowhere
19th November 2009, 16:31
Burgomaster (http://www.revleft.com/vb/Burgomaster)??? is that in the english dictionary?? in dutch Burgemeester means Mayor, but why the hell would they translate that as "Burgomaster"? Sounds like a skilled worker at Burger King..
Things to do:
Ask people you know who work at Burger King whether they are burgomasters.
Get out of Chit-Chat before my sense of humour dies a bloody (and vaguely amusing) death.
RHIZOMES
19th November 2009, 22:01
In the English language acting "classy" means looking really slick and in slick rich looking clothes
so similar thing here
Ravachol
19th November 2009, 22:20
Also, this time magazine article from 1950 about a communist muncipality in the Netherlands
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,813964,00.html
Burgomaster (http://www.revleft.com/vb/Burgomaster)??? is that in the english dictionary?? in dutch Burgemeester means Mayor, but why the hell would they translate that as "Burgomaster"? Sounds like a skilled worker at Burger King..
It sounds like something out of Dungeons & Dragons.
Also:
"Little Moscow" got that way largely because of Ferdinand Domela Nieuwenhuis, an ex-clergyman with more passion for Marx than Luther who toured northern Holland in the igth Century. Nieuwenhuis first preached Socialism, moved on to anarchism and brought Finsterwolde with him. Finsterwolde's firebrands voted as far left as they could. Eventually, this meant voting Communist.
Hillarious, because, as we all know, Anarchism can never be communist (never mind Anarcho-Communism) and 'Communism' is further to the left than Anarchism :laugh:
Ravachol
19th November 2009, 22:26
Fellow first year students who just graduated high school and think they're hot shit. So they constantly feel the need to correct teachers on things that don't need correcting at all. When the teacher then points out the error of their ways, they frantically search their notebooks, only to finally realise that, yes, they were wrong and the teacher was right. Pricks, wasting the time of the other 99 people in the room. If their interjections, even when wrong, were educative in any way, I wouldn't mind. But these people are too dumb to take a shit, so one can't really expect that.
FOR THE LOVE OF BAKUNIN, THIS
There's this dipshit, not a first year student though, in my class who does this all the time. He has no bloody idea what he's talking about, he doesn't know shit about anything AT ALL but think's he's god's gift to science plus on top of that, he's smelly.
He interrupts everyone, including fellow students asking questions trying to 'correct' them with nonsensical pseudo-arguments.
God do I hate that guy.
Wanted Man
19th November 2009, 22:46
There's this one girl in my work group, who is basically the only classmate that I really don't like (the people in my previous posts were in other groups, I only met them during the lectures). We study English, and she has adopted a deliberately posh British accent that causes everyone around her to collectively cringe whenever she opens her mouth.
She regularly reminds us that she has done gymnasium (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gymnasium_%28school%29) (the highest form of secondary education here), as if she's the only one in the world who did that. Gymnasium includes Latin and Ancient Greek, so she often has completely uninteresting Greek linguistic trivia for us, or, even worse, boring anecdotes from Greek mythology.
When working with her, her most important contribution will be correcting you on things that often don't even need correction, but which she simply had the wrong idea about. This is annoying enough in itself, but she even did that to someone during a presentation, where the unwritten rule is (should be) to "cover" the person you're working with when they're in trouble, not undermine them.
99% of the people that I study with are cool, and I love my study, but a tiny amount of people are fucking intolerable.
Tyrlop
19th November 2009, 22:55
i hate people who doesn't say anything. open your mouth, those quite people are going me damn damn damn damn, just annoying.
well the most i hate is those rude guys, who think they have experienced a whole life, and know everything, act like being extremly mature, on the age of 18-30 and they usually smoke cigs, say jokes, smile ugly, do shit, insult people, use the word EPIC, WIN, and such. usually british people.
they keep anoying me and they are everywhere! EVEN HERE GOD DAMNIT (sam_b)
Lyev
19th November 2009, 23:00
There's this one girl in my work group, who is basically the only classmate that I really don't like (the people in my previous posts were in other groups, I only met them during the lectures). We study English, and she has adopted a deliberately posh British accent that causes everyone around her to collectively cringe whenever she opens her mouth.
She regularly reminds us that she has done gymnasium (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gymnasium_%28school%29) (the highest form of secondary education here), as if she's the only one in the world who did that. Gymnasium includes Latin and Ancient Greek, so she often has completely uninteresting Greek linguistic trivia for us, or, even worse, boring anecdotes from Greek mythology.
When working with her, her most important contribution will be correcting you on things that often don't even need correction, but which she simply had the wrong idea about. This is annoying enough in itself, but she even did that to someone during a presentation, where the unwritten rule is (should be) to "cover" the person you're working with when they're in trouble, not undermine them.
99% of the people that I study with are cool, and I love my study, but a tiny amount of people are fucking intolerable.
Ah yeah, but there always has to be one smug twat in the group; to brighten up the day. It wouldn't be the same without them. Maybe we should make a 'smug twat anecdote' thread and sticky it. There's a smug twat who sits behind me in science and always shouts really asinine stuff out. It's really funny to hear little exerts from his conversations actually, with the poor girls sat either side of him.
He tries to be really clever and suave but everyone can tell he's immensely sexually frustrated. He'll shout out some inanity really loudly when the teacher asks for an answer, when the class has gone quiet and he'll promptly be met by a resounding silence. Then, as if to makes matters worse, he laughs nerdily at his own pseudo-joke. Then the teacher thanks him and we move on with our lives. This happens on at least a weekly basis... oh, and he has curly hair! But, saying this he is quite a nice chap most of the time, then again he is quite rightist.
Wanted Man
19th November 2009, 23:04
Immense sexual frustration, that can be important in what makes these people smug twats. I know for a fact that this is true of our Ancient Greek girl... but I probably shouldn't go there.
We don't really have anyone like that, although there is this curly-haired guy who is kind of weird. At random moments during lectures, he'll make a little "joke" or cynical comment or whatever, and then laughs about it softly for a few seconds. It doesn't interrupt the rest of the class, but it's kind of weird.
This kind of stuff seems to be a common experience for everyone. :lol:
Jazzratt
20th November 2009, 00:57
FOR THE LOVE OF BAKUNIN, THIS
I cna see the intent behind removing religious figures from everday cursing. However things like this 1) miss the point of blasphemy and 2) say something slightly creepy about how we view the people in question. Also I've never heard people actually talk like this when surprised or angry, they might do it if they've had time to think about what they say but reflexive swearing (which always sounds much better to my ear) generally reverts to the oh-so-terrible theistic ones.
I used to use phrases like "Marx on a Motorcycle!" (yeah really. I must have sounded like a prize tit) but if I (say) smashed my thumb with a hammer It'd be something like "Jesus fucking c*nt fuck shite arsehole fuck" etc...
BurnTheOliveTree
21st November 2009, 02:46
We don't really have anyone like that, although there is this curly-haired guy who is kind of weird. At random moments during lectures, he'll make a little "joke" or cynical comment or whatever, and then laughs about it softly for a few seconds. It doesn't interrupt the rest of the class, but it's kind of weird.
We have one of those in my history course, down to the curly hair and everything. He constantly makes cryptic references/in-jokes with himself about the material we're studying, and is constantly cynical. Seemingly an archetype!
-Alex
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