North Korean

[Holden Caulfield]

http://strangemaps.files.wordpress.com/2007/12/1207koreaelectricitygrikf0.jpg

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[Pirate Utopian]

What does the light blue represent?

[Dr Mindbender]

What does the light blue represent?

Apparently its a night time picture.

The light blue markings are lights.

Considering the DPRK is in a de facto state of war against a much larger aggressor i think it says very little. The UK had blackouts during the war.

[GracchusBabeuf]

http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/9517/433pxjstalinsecretaryge.jpg

Stalin ate babiiiezZZ OMGZZZXX

[Dr Mindbender]

Stalin ate babiiiezZZ OMGZZZXX

Yes... ...thanks for that. :bored:

[Pirate Utopian]

http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/9517/433pxjstalinsecretaryge.jpg

Stalin ate babiiiezZZ OMGZZZXX
That is horrifically crappy, you didnt even try to make it look good.

[Dr Mindbender]

That is horrifically crappy, you didnt even try to make it look good.

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[which doctor]

It would seem North Korea has strongly enforced laws against light pollution.

[GracchusBabeuf]

That is horrifically crappy, you didnt even try to make it look good.
Just following chit chat standards.
http://justgiblets.com/wp-content/uploads/old/feel_burn.jpg

[scarletghoul]

yeah those fucking backwards communists cant even develop their own country what a bunch of looooosers

[GracchusBabeuf]

yeah those fucking backwards communists cant even develop their own country what a bunch of looooosers
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[#FF0000]

Just lowering chit chat standards.
http://justgiblets.com/wp-content/uploads/old/feel_burn.jpg

Fixed

[Tyrlop]

does it matter? people need to sleep at night, this is only a good sign showing the responsibility of the state,

[Искра]

This picture looks like Kim cum on South Korea.

[mosfeld]

This picture looks like Kim cum on South Korea. How do you manage to be so fucking unfunny..?

[Rjevan]

http://politicaldemotivation.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/north_korea_global_warming.jpg


does it matter? people need to sleep at night, this is only a good sign showing the responsibility of the state,
Indeed, that's another pro, the government there at least cares about the people and ensure that they get enough sleep and don't turn into petit-bourgeois reactionaries like us who sit in front of the PC till 4 am! :thumbup1:

[Vanguard1917]

does it matter? people need to sleep at night, this is only a good sign showing the responsibility of the state,

Haha, certainly an interesting take on the state of affairs.

Personally, I have always prefered Lenin's statement that socialism means "Soviet power plus the electrification of the entire country." It seems that North Korea unfortunately has neither.

[Panda Tse Tung]

Lol, like for those srsly thinking this shows North Korea is lacking on electricity (despite it's obvious blackouts). There's a map of Latin America too. I'm too lazy to look for it. Also lights in the sea, lawl.

[scarletghoul]

And no electricity in Vladivostok, one of the major Russian cities D:

edit: Japan too lol

[Honggweilo]

http://strangemaps.files.wordpress.com/2007/12/1207koreaelectricitygrikf0.jpg

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http://www.revleft.com/vb/[IMG]http://i33.tinypic.com/n6vle0.jpghttp://i33.tinypic.com/n6vle0.jpg

And no electricity in Vladivostok, one of the major Russian cities D:

edit: Japan too lolno lights in changchun or shenyang either lol

http://bbs.chinadaily.com.cn/attachments/month_0904/changchun_YJLuDeYW9MBi.jpg

^ Chanchung

http://images.beijing-2008.org/20070415/Img214036910.jpg

^ Shenyang

http://www.primamedia.ru/files/3326.jpg

^ Vladivostok

[Pogue]

I guess it shows how like most states the North Korean state is woefully inadequate in supplying the needs of 'its people', its just more glaringly obvious with North Korea

[spiltteeth]

Electricity must be shut off in N. Korea at night due to energy restrictions.

[Искра]

Electricity must be shut off in N. Korea at night due to police hour.
Fixed:lol:

[Pavlov's House Party]

north koreans just have an earlier bedtime, obviously

[GracchusBabeuf]

Time for an anarchist reenacting of this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YtYdjbpBk6A) in North Korea.:rolleyes: The speaker was truly a great revolutionary for the working class, after all he was instrumental in defeating "Stalinism".

[Panda Tse Tung]

North Korea is a farce. It is a bourgeoisie lie.

[spiltteeth]

Fixed:lol:

I guess. The N. Koreans are fighting for there very lives. Harsh trade embargoes make it difficult just to get food and medicine.

I guess you kind people living in harsh conditions amusing. It's rather criminal what the UN and USA have done to them, regardless of what you think of there society.

[Tyrlop]

I guess. The N. Koreans are fighting for there very lives. Harsh trade embargoes make it difficult just to get food and medicine.

I guess you kind people living in harsh conditions amusing. It's rather criminal what the UN and USA have done to them, regardless of what you think of there society.

wice words my friend

[Vladimir Innit Lenin]

The WPK has done more harm to its own people than the UN and USA have done.

Why hasn't Cuba gone the same way as the DPRK? It gets abused from all corners about 'human rights' and 'democracy', and has one of the harshest trade embargos going.

[Искра]

I guess. The N. Koreans are fighting for there very lives. Harsh trade embargoes make it difficult just to get food and medicine.

I guess you kind people living in harsh conditions amusing. It's rather criminal what the UN and USA have done to them, regardless of what you think of there society.
I was born in "harsh conditions", and that's not amusing. I experienced that, so don't preach to me.

I was making a joke of their political system, especially when I find here idiots who claim that it's "socialist". To me clamming some shit like North Korea as socialist is criminal.

[spiltteeth]

I was born in "harsh conditions", and that's not amusing. I experienced that, so don't preach to me.

I was making a joke of their political system, especially when I find here idiots who claim that it's "socialist". To me clamming some shit like North Korea as socialist is criminal.

I reread the thread. No one said N. Korea was socialist. And some guy or gal sitting in front of a computer saying insane things is nothing. It is absolutely nothing.
Laughing at how a people are deprived is no joke.

Making a joke out of there political system? I guess its not funny to me. Their surrounded by tens of thousands of US troops and battle ships pointing nuclear weapons at them. Colin Powell said the US would turn their country into a "charcoaled wasteland."
Every minute of the day they live in poverty and are threatened by nuclear annihilation.
They can either have a heavily militaristic society with little freedom, or be destroyed.
Kind of a tough spot.
They've done some pretty impressive things considering. Just because they are not socialist does not give one a right to make fun of their regime, which you disapprove of.
Making fun of others who consider it a socialist utopia is a completely different matter.

[spiltteeth]

The WPK has done more harm to its own people than the UN and USA have done.

Why hasn't Cuba gone the same way as the DPRK? It gets abused from all corners about 'human rights' and 'democracy', and has one of the harshest trade embargos going.

Thats a good point, but Cuba has a lot more resources, and was heavily propped up by the soviet union and china for many years which allowed them to build up and stabilize their economy.
The DPRK resisted the soviet unions suggestions, and so only received -relative to cuba - little aid for a much shorter time.

I'm no expert though - what do you think?

[Yazman]

I can't believe nobody has noticed this..

LOOK AT THE PICTURE. Its a friggin BLUE OUTLINE. It looks like something from THIRTY YEARS AGO!

Nowadays we have these things called.. satellites! They can produce ACTUAL PICTURES OF THE PLANET FROM SPACE!!

What the hell is this crappy blue outline?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a3/Korean_peninsula_at_night.jpg

[The Ungovernable Farce]

Just because they are not socialist does not give one a right to make fun of their regime, which you disapprove of.

So just because we disapprove of a regime that's not socialist, we're not allowed to make fun of it? Better make all the threads criticising the British, American, German, Italian, Russian, Israeli, etc, etc, etc, governments disappear then.

[spiltteeth]

So just because we disapprove of a regime that's not socialist, we're not allowed to make fun of it? Better make all the threads criticising the British, American, German, Italian, Russian, Israeli, etc, etc, etc, governments disappear then.

I guess go ahead - ha ha look at all those people suffering horribly. Hilarious.

[Il Medico]

http://www.our-energy.com/pictures/galleries/nasa_earth_lights_at_night.jpg

[Honggweilo]

i see a correlation between iceland and north korea.. is iceland heading towards stalinism after nationalisation of their banks?

Also belgium is said to emit the most light at night from satalite, more then any country... but has anyone ever been to belgium at night? half of the lights on the freeways are malfunctioning!

[Dr Mindbender]

i see a correlation between iceland and north korea.. is iceland heading towards stalinism after nationalisation of their banks?


The population of Iceland is only 100 000 though.

[Wanted Man]

It's an impressive picture, but people don't seem to understand it. I looked it up, and found this:


Fellow Maphisters,

The NASA image truly takes one's breath away. Unfortunately, the accompanying description does not. I'm unable to ferret out the source of the description, but it has made the rounds and confused enough people that I find myself compelled to correct it.

First, while the image is very impressive, one must not think that the earth at night looks anything like that image. Lights are not visible from space in that fashion to the naked eye. The image was constructed from data from sensitive detectors -- probably infrared, but I can't find a cogent description of how the image was constructed. From the altitude of the Space Station, the earth at night looks... well... dark.

The most egregious error is the ludicrous,

"It is an absolutely awesome picture of the Earth taken from the Boeing built Space Station last November on a perfect night with no obscuring atmosphere."

There is nothing correct in this sentence. It is not "a" picture; it is a composite of hundreds or thousands of pictures. It was not taken on "a perfect" night. There is no such thing as "a perfect night with no obscuring atmosphere" as far as the whole earth is concerned. Much of the earth is wrapped in clouds no matter what moment in time you choose to pick. The image compensates for that by having been composed of hundreds of images, each taken at a good time for the small region that each individual photograph covers. The image was not composed of photographs from the International Space Station; nor was it created "last November"; it has been around since before the ISS was built -- at least it is so remarkably similar to an image I first saw in the mid 90s that I cannot distinguish any difference. Finally, the ISS was not built by Boeing, though certainly parts of it were.

I have no idea how these bizarre loads of misinformation come into being. Apparently someone gets it into "his" head to make up nonsense and circulate it just because it sounds nice. The truth simply doesn't matter.

Regards,
daan Strebe
http://mailman.geo.uu.nl/pipermail/maphist/2002-May/000557.html

Also, an explanation of how it came to be: http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Features/Lights/

And on its propaganda value: http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/dprk/dprk-dark.htm

Also weird that in some versions, NK is completely dark, in others, all of NK except Pyongyang, in yet again others, there are several dots in NK, and so on and so forth. :confused: So there seem to be different composite images from different years.

[punisa]

That image was beautiful. I wish N Korea takes over the world so I can dedicate my life in serving the Dear Leader Kim.

[al8]

The population of Iceland is only 100 000 though.

Wrong. 312.000 inhabitants.

And I haven't seen night-time pictures that bright of Iceland before.
Other pictures I've seen have been a lot darker. So I'm quite skeptical. Even the tiniest of villages seem to have bloated lights.

But as to the dark places, its mainly the interior highlands, mountainous regions, glaciers that seem to lack light. As I've heard north Korea also has mountainous terrain.

I've also noticed that the Shetlands are missing from the map - they show no brightness - even though the Faroe Islands - which are comparable Islands - are practically brimming with light.

[Tyrlop]

Wrong. 312.000 inhabitants.

And I haven't seen night-time pictures that bright of Iceland before.
Other pictures I've seen have been a lot darker. So I'm quite skeptical. Even the tiniest of villages seem to have bloated lights.

But as to the dark places, its mainly the interior highlands, mountainous regions, glaciers that seem to lack light. As I've heard north Korea also has mountainous terrain.

I've also noticed that the Shetlands are missing from the map - they show no brightness - even though the Faroe Islands - which are comparable Islands - are practically brimming with light.
Island doesn't spend as much energy as us, they got a vulcano, and they have been smart enough to use the warmt of that vulcano. in Island i heard that cars drive on Air-cells, produced by the warmt. they also got very cheap central warming system. goot place to live in Island, even though its really hard to land with an aeroplane

[Honggweilo]

Island doesn't spend as much energy as us, they got a vulcano, and they have been smart enough to use the warmt of that vulcano. in Island i heard that cars drive on Air-cells, produced by the warmt. they also got very cheap central warming system. goot place to live in Island, even though its really hard to land with an aeroplane
beside the fact their whole country is bankrupt and their GDP vanished into thin air because of its risky banking. It did bring a leftist victory though (post-communist "democratic socialist/greens")

[Panda Tse Tung]

I disagree.

[Tyrlop]

beside the fact their whole country is bankrupt and their GDP vanished into thin air because of its risky banking. It did bring a leftist victory though (post-communist "democratic socialist/greens")
i think it was done before the crisis.

I disagree.
WITH WHAT?

[Panda Tse Tung]

WITH WHAT?
I'm sorry i have to break this to you.

[Honggweilo]

i think it was done before the crisis.

WITH WHAT?
no it wasnt, look it up

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_Icelandic_financial_crisis_protests

[Mälli]

Somalia has only one light spot. :(

[al8]

Island doesn't spend as much energy as us, they got a vulcano, and they have been smart enough to use the warmt of that vulcano. in Island i heard that cars drive on Air-cells, produced by the warmt. they also got very cheap central warming system. goot place to live in Island, even though its really hard to land with an aeroplane

You're confusing Island with Iceland. Island=Ø, Iceland=Island.

[Tyrlop]

You're confusing Island with Iceland. Island=Ø, Iceland=Island.
what i meant was ofcourse Island (Iceland in English)

[What Would Durruti Do?]

Dear Leader Kim gave his people the gift of darkness and rid the country of imperialist light.

[red cat]

How much do these satellite images tell us about the reality? Look at the glittering Indian sub-continent and coastal South America. In India, 40% families do not have any access to electricity. To another huge chunk of the population it means nothing more than a single dim light bulb, because they can't afford even a tubelight. And what is more, they go to bed hungry each night, and they can only "draw" their names.

I don't think North Korea is communist. But isn't it possible that they have had to take some of the lights away from the elite to provide bread for the bottom 80% ?

[Holden Caulfield]

How much do these satellite images tell us about the reality? Look at the glittering Indian sub-continent and coastal South America. In India, 40% families do not have any access to electricity. To another huge chunk of the population it means nothing more than a single dim light bulb, because they can't afford even a tubelight. And what is more, they go to bed hungry each night, and they can only "draw" their names.

I don't think North Korea is communist. But isn't it possible that they have had to take some of the lights away from the elite to provide bread for the bottom 80% ?

sounds like commie bullshit to me

[Walt]

North Korea suffers severe power shortages, so it seems logical to cut of most light sources during the night, to save most power during the day. Even what you call the "elitists" of North Korea (which would most likely be Government workers... which there isn't much of) go without light to help supply factories and other civilians with energy during the day.

[bcbm]

But isn't it possible that they have had to take some of the lights away from the elite to provide bread for the bottom 80% ?


pffft:rolleyes:

[Comrade B]

http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/9517/433pxjstalinsecretaryge.jpgAt least Stalin remembered to edit Trotsky trying to save the baby out of it



Actually, that picture is a black light, and North Koreans are totally fucking prude.


In India, 40% familiesIs a fuck load of people with lights... no matter how many people are fucked over, that will still be a shit load of light.

[Guerrilla22]

They can't ahve nuclear power ya know cause they might make bombs. Not like they have a legitiante reason for needing nuclear power anyways..

[Yazman]

You're confusing Island with Iceland. Island=Ø, Iceland=Island.

wat.

Iceland doesn't = island. Iceland is a country. Island is a geographic feature.

[Yazman]

In that picture, why does Stalin have BLACK lips? WTF?

[Tyrlop]

wat.

Iceland doesn't = island. Iceland is a country. Island is a geographic feature.
in danish Island means Iceland, And Ø means Island.

[Sasha]

In that picture, why does Stalin have BLACK lips? WTF?

its taken in stalins short nihilist period when he was inspired by both nechachev and heath ledgers depiction of the joker in the dark knight.

[al8]

wat.

Iceland doesn't = island. Iceland is a country. Island is a geographic feature.

That's what I said - I was directing this to a danish person.

Language - country name - geographic feature
in Icelandic - Ísland - eyland/eyja
in Danish - Island - Ø
in English - Iceland - Island

[Sugar Hill Kevis]

God said, Let there be light: and there was light. Kim said fuck your light, punk ass.