How would a Marxist Britain deal with Religeous extremism.

[BonnyPortmore]

I think we can all agree the wars waging in the middle east were illegal and remain illegal.
But when i say to people that no WMDs were found in Iraq, no evidence of links between afghanistan and alquieda i am always told.
the troops are bringing democracy to the middle east, must be some new murderous type of democaracy i have never heard of.
I am told they are keeping our country safe, yet MI5 says the terror alert is as high as ever.
i am even told they are liberating women, yet since the invasion women have seen their rights wavered and have come under attack from an increased islam fundamentalism aswell as American military oppresion, who put warlords like the northern alliance into power.

But when i refute these facts, people say, how would a communist government stop radical religeous terrorism, how would a revolutionary state fight this type of terrorism or would we not come under attack as the bourgesie of the west would no longer be exploiting and invading muslim orientated nations, therefor they would not attack us?

[Pirate turtle the 11th]

Well the issue with religious extremists is they are currently concerned with removing the foreigners from the "holy lands" after which they will probably turn there attention to radicalizing middle eastern states , which they won't be able to do because quite frankly they will be beaten shitless and won't be able to get the same amount of manpower as they won't really be able to pedel the whole patriotism thing.


Oh and if they did fuck with a Communist area I'm pretty sure they would be dealt with in an appropriate manner (read: shot)

[farleft]

Yeah pretty much what Comrade Joe is saying, I would imagine a marxist state to take a very hard-line approach with religious extremists.

[Vladimir Innit Lenin]

^^^ As bone headed an outlook as the imperialists have.

Certainly, if we encounter any religious extremists who carry out, or clearly plan to carry out terrorist attacks, they should be dealt with firmly. However, our main policy should not be that of deterrent, but that of getting out of the middle east, and taking a role on the side, trying to help the co-ordination of Palestinian liberation organisations etc.

I don't know why every Communist seems to think that executing every enemy by shooting is somehow 'cool'. Russia had been executing people via a shot to the head for centuries, and the Communists continued and adopted this method of execution, expanding it even. Somehow this has become not only the method of choice for Communists, but many of them seem to think that validating and expanding executions is somehow a good idea.

I have a feeling if these people had their way they would make their way through the majority of a population in the name of 'defending the revolution.':rolleyes:

[Spirit of Spartacus]

If Britain became a socialist republic, well...

Lets just say that by that time we'll have moved beyond the point where Islamic extremism was a world issue. :P

[What Would Durruti Do?]

if they were truly socialist and not imperialist exploiters, i don't see why they would be targeted

[robbo203]

A "Marxist Britain" seems to suggest the retention of the nation-state and ipso facto, capitalism . Am I alone in thinking this kind of smacks of being a contradiction in terms?

[BonnyPortmore]

no but your alone because your a thick git.

[robbo203]

no but your alone because your a thick git.

Charming. How very articulate and insightful . Now go back to playing with your lego set, kid

[BonnyPortmore]

i am a multi tasking man, i can play with my lego set while hurling juvenile insults :)

[robbo203]

i am a multi tasking man, i can play with my lego set while hurling juvenile insults :)

Yup,you said it, mate. "Out of the mouths of babes" and all that...

[Jazzratt]

A "Marxist Britain" seems to suggest the retention of the nation-state and ipso facto, capitalism . Am I alone in thinking this kind of smacks of being a contradiction in terms?

Britain or more accurately Great Britain refers to the landmass made up of what is currently England, Wales and Scotland. The nation state is the United Kingdom, or (again more correctly) the United Kingdom of Great Britain & Northern Island. So yes it's just you who has that reading.

[robbo203]

Britain or more accurately Great Britain refers to the landmass made up of what is currently England, Wales and Scotland. The nation state is the United Kingdom, or (again more correctly) the United Kingdom of Great Britain & Northern Island. So yes it's just you who has that reading.

Really? I dont think so. If you asked most people what the term a "marxist Britain" meant they would automatically assume you were alking about a united kingdom state" run on supposedly Marxist lines, not a geographical landmass. Boundaries defining entities such as "Britain" are not natural but socio-poliical. And there is certainly something socio -political about the idea of a "marxist Britain"

[Jazzratt]

Really? I dont think so.

What don't you think? That Great Britain refers to a landmass not a country? You could always look it up.


If you asked most people what the term a "marxist Britain" meant they would automatically assume you were alking about a united kingdom state" run on supposedly Marxist lines, not a geographical landmass.

Bollocks they do.


Boundaries defining entities such as "Britain" are not natural but socio-poliical.

That's classic that is, the ocean is a fucking socio-political boundry. I know a lot of people here expect the working class to walk on water, but you're taking it to a whole new level.


And there is certainly something socio -political about the idea of a "marxist Britain"

Quite a lot of ideas I've read for the running of a post-revolutionary world count Britain & Ireland (as well as the various other bits and pieces like the Isle of Wite, the Isle of Man and so on) as an administrative bloc. There's also the argument that Britain, thanks to its being cutoff from pretty much everywhere is an example of a place that might "go communist" alone.

You're getting pissy over the semantics of the thing, though, I'm at a loss as to why you're not just adressing the fucking question.

[TheCultofAbeLincoln]

I'd say that, like any civilized country, Britain could withdraw troops, however continue to remind the nations involved that activities ranging from blowing up Buddhist statues or smashing hellenistic artwork to pouring acid on girls are backward, uncivilized, disgusting, and quite frankly, make us feel embarassed when we consider aliens could be watching you fucking morons. Because it has to be aliens, or else we got one cruel ass God in charge if you fuckers are still breathing.

As for domestically, any religion should be welcome, though no official religion is tolerated (of course). I'd even be willing to go as far as to allow people who practice a minority faith in the UK, such as Islam, days off for religious holidays. However, that would come out of the same amount everyone gets (a lot), ie religious people wouldn't have an advantage.

Extremists attempting to bring their wacky ways to power of any stripe, will be locked up as would any terrorist.