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Revy
13th November 2009, 09:16
Link (http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2009/nov/12/noneuropeans-shutout-from-skilled-jobs)



More than 250,000 skilled engineering, care and catering jobs are to be closed to non-European overseas workers next year as a result of Gordon Brown's immigration speech today.
The prime minister promised that these sectors would be taken off the official list of shortage occupations as soon as employers and training bodies can provide sufficient qualified recruits.
In his first major speech on immigration for 18 months, he also promised to clamp down on widespread abuse of the student visa system.
An official review will look at raising the minimum level of course for which foreign students can get a visa, introducing mandatory English language tests and blocking overseas students from working part-time in temporary jobs that could be filled by young Britons.
After the speech the Home Office published a draft immigration bill which is designed to be enacted after the general election. The 243-page bill – which would be the eighth major piece of immigration and asylum (http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/immigration) legislation since Labour came to power in 1997 – is designed to "simplify and consolidate" the baffling jigsaw of bills and rule changes introduced since the bedrock 1971 Immigration Act.
The bill also proposes sweeping changes in immigration procedures, including the replacement of the deportation process with a general power to expel failed asylum seekers and illegal migrants. They would also be banned from returning to Britain for a fixed period or indefinitely.
A Home Office consultation paper on welfare support for asylum seekers also published today underpins these proposals with plans to limit housing and benefit payments to three months for those told to leave the country. Families who have been told to leave would have to live in "full-board" Borders Agency accommodation and replacing all cash payments with a plastic pre-paid card.
The further changes to the points-based immigration system outlined by Brown involve implementing recommendations from the government's migration advisory committee. From this autumn, shortage occupation jobs will have to advertised for four weeks rather than the current two before they can be filled by non-European skilled workers.
The previous work permit regime covered about 700,000 jobs in shortage occupations. Since the migration committee was set up last year, it has recommended a cut to about 500,000. The latest recommendations covering engineering roles, skilled chefs and care workers would remove a further 290,000 British jobs.
The number of these jobs filled by non-European workers, however, is very much smaller, with only 30,000 coming to work in Britain between November 2008 and August 2009. The door was closed to unskilled workers from outside the European Economic area when the points-based system was introduced. Now, step by step, the door is also being closed to skilled workers from outside Europe.
The prime minister said realistic timetables needed to be developed for adequate training to take place before these jobs could be taken off the shortage lists.
"As growth returns I want to see rising levels of skills, wages and employment among those resident here – rather than employers having to resort to recruiting people from abroad," said Brown.
The Conservatives said that the PM's speech had a hollow ring to it. "This is the Government that tried to cover up a deliberate policy of increasing immigration and the prime minister's comments show that he has no idea about how to deal with the whole question of immigration now," said the shadow home secretary, Chris Grayling.
The Liberal Democrats' Chris Huhne said Brown was trying to shut the stable door long after the horse had bolted and argued that the government's mismanagement of the immigration system had long ago undermined the country's liberal attitude to the issue.
The Refugee Council said the consultation on asylum support showed the government was determined to make life as miserable as it could for those who got to Britain. Jonathan Ellis, the organisation's head of policy, said: "It has proposed to re-enact the widely condemned section 55, making refugees homeless and destitute, that was ruled illegal by the courts four years ago. Not only that, the government proposes that families who are unable to return home will be refused cash support, and forced to rely on a payment card.
"This makes a mockery of the government's claim to be safeguarding and promoting the welfare of children seeking asylum as it announced last week."
The Home Office denied any change of policy on section 55, insisting it would not be used to make anybody destitute in the way condemned by the law lords.
Refuge and Migrant Justice said that buried in the bill was provision to give ministers the power to overrule bail decisions made by judges in immigration and asylum cases.Are you happy, No2EU? (http://www.no2eu.com/workersrights.html) I'm not expecting the jokesters behind that to organize in defense of the free movement of people. Their line was that "foreign workers take the jobs of local workers". Local, of course, being a euphemism for British, they didn't want their xenophobia to be too apparent, even though it was.

You cannot criticize Fortress Europe while upholding Fortress Britain. You must criticize both. I do not expect the Eurosceptics of the British left, who on the one hand used No2EU to criticize the EU's policy of the free movement of labor within itself, to then defend the rights of immigrants from outside the EU to work and live in the EU.

I was astounded that such a nationalistic monstrosity as No2EU had been formed by self-described socialists. And their tactic failed miserably. Their marches against the EU probably just reinforced the right-wing Eurosceptic parties' popularity. While the Socialist Labour Party got a tremendous amount of votes on a socialist platform. Despite any criticisms you may have of that party, you could try and learn a thing or two.

h0m0revolutionary
13th November 2009, 10:35
You're absolutely right, NO2EU were left-nationalists, who went with the logic better to be exploited by a sovereign British capitalism than an integrated EU capitalism. Protectionism and yes, Stalinism, at it's worst.

I expected it from the CPB, I even expected it from the Alliance for Green Socialism, but the Socilaist Party i expected better from. SP are going from bad to awful.

FSL
13th November 2009, 10:51
NO2EU rules in the UK? Cause I still thought that that Brown guy was in government...


And calling them Stalinists for going only as far as rejecting Lisbon treaty, nice way to prove your ignorance.

They still look better than pro EU "leftists" of course.

Devrim
13th November 2009, 11:03
NO2EU rules in the UK? Cause I still thought that that Brown guy was in government...


And calling them Stalinists for going only as far as rejecting Lisbon treaty, nice way to prove your ignorance.

They still look better than pro EU "leftists" of course.

There aren't only two choices. I think that it is a question of saying neither side has anything to offer the working class.


I expected it from the CPB, I even expected it from the Alliance for Green Socialism, but the Socilaist Party i expected better from. SP are going from bad to awful.

I think that this sort of nationalism fits in well with their histort. This is, after all, a party whose answer to the Falklands question was elect a Labour government and then fight a 'socialist war'.

Devrim

farleft
13th November 2009, 17:16
While this is bad and of course our borders should be open to everyone think how it would be if the conservatives/UKIP/BNP/etc had there way and there was no EU, not only would we be excluding non-Europeans but they'd exclude everyone except the brits.

I cant speak for other member states but if people like FSL had their way and scraped the EU that's what would happen in the UK.

FSL, are you a nationalist?

Wanted Man
13th November 2009, 18:01
As for the OP, I don't think No2EU made this policy or were influential at all, they just took a wrong position that is unfortunately typical for much of the left in Europe. I agree that "You cannot criticize Fortress Europe while upholding Fortress Britain", because the two are inherently connected to each other. There is a creepy tendency sometimes to oppose the EU on the basis of anti-immigrant populism to "take the wind out of the sails" of the right-wing.


While this is bad and of course our borders should be open to everyone think how it would be if the conservatives/UKIP/BNP/etc had there way and there was no EU, not only would we be excluding non-Europeans but they'd exclude everyone except the brits.

I cant speak for other member states but if people like FSL had their way and scraped the EU that's what would happen in the UK.

FSL, are you a nationalist?

Lesser evilism ftw. I'll leave it to the anarchists to lecture you about what anarchism means, but dude. :lol: If the BNP/UKIP had executive power, it would be in coalition and probably with another party, and they would have to be sufficiently "respectable" to get into that position. Whether they would try to withdraw from the EU or not, they would probably do the same thing as many western powers are currently doing with "respectable" parties in power: strengthen border security, allow less non-western immigration, and try to find a way to prevent free immigration from less "desirable" EU member states like Poland.

Anyway, your point reminds me of the people who virulently opposed the BNP's presence at the BBC, but said not a word about all the Labour, Tory and LibDem politicians who were trying to "fight the BNP" by pushing for these very same measures.

FSL
13th November 2009, 18:37
While this is bad and of course our borders should be open to everyone think how it would be if the conservatives/UKIP/BNP/etc had there way and there was no EU, not only would we be excluding non-Europeans but they'd exclude everyone except the brits.

I cant speak for other member states but if people like FSL had their way and scraped the EU that's what would happen in the UK.

FSL, are you a nationalist?


I'm not but from what you say I can deduce many people in the UK are if nationalist policies are getting such a massive support.

Maybe that has something to do with people like you claiming EU is an improvement and what is needed is further integration. Workers will of course know that's bollocks -all they need to do is look at their pockets-so BNP starts to seem reasonable.
If all that's needed for NO2EU to be called stalinist is a meager resistance to Lisbon treaty, I can only feel sorry for the state of the left in England and for the workers who have no reliable party to organize in.

Forward Union
13th November 2009, 18:49
Open borders is a neo-Liberal political position which, when it comes from above, we must oppose. Opening borders for job opportunities does not create class unity or consciousness. What it does is create a situation of precarity, where foreign workers are paid less, undercutting the wages of the entire working class in the nation. So many anarchists are drawn into supporting open borders policy that it makes me sick, I even saw some Anarchists handing out leaflets telling me than Asylum seekers bring in 8million net profit to the UK per anum. In other words glorifying their utility as cheap labour.

Class solidarity comes from union internationalism. Not support for capitalist neoliberalism. In fact the EU fucks the working class quite royally.