What will riot police do to you....

[Nebuchadnezzar]

if you HERF their equipment from a second-story window?

This is to be taken with a grain of salt, I don't have a HERF gun lying around, but I would like to know how cops react to that sort of thing.

I also seriously doubt anyone has actually done this, but anything remotely similar will be satisfactory.

[ellipsis]

I don't think that they would have any idea what was going on. Do they even make HERF guns?

[NecroCommie]

Who is HERF?

[Nebuchadnezzar]

The police? I doubt it. If you mean anyone, then yes, HERF guns are made. They're just fairly uncommon, due to the fact that you need something like 10000 farads to put out a decent pulse, and that requires some serious capacitorage.

EDIT: HERF is High-Energy Radio Frequency, notably used to disable electronic systems.

[ellipsis]

I am aware that things like this do exist, but when you say gun (and I know military terminology is different) it makes me think a self contained unit which a person can carry. Is this the case?

[Nebuchadnezzar]

Yes. Such a unit must be charged with an outside power source, but yes, at least to my knowledge. As I said, I don't have one.

[ArrowLance]

I don't mean to be overly critical, but what the hell kind of a question is this. I don't think they'd do anything they wouldn't do otherwise.

I wonder what riot police would do if you were to attack them with small tactile nuclear weapons. . .

[ls]

It's probably been tried or done before (check archive.org/*/http://www.voltsamps.com/pages/projects/herf004/ (http://web.archive.org/web/20040603050647/http://www.voltsamps.com/pages/projects/herf004/)

[Catbus]

I mean, if you're on the second floor of a building, then you should have an easy enough time not getting seen.

[Nebuchadnezzar]

I mean, if you're on the second floor of a building, then you should have an easy enough time not getting seen.

That would be my hope.

[Drace]

Can someone explain more thoroughly what this HERF gun does?

[Nebuchadnezzar]

Put simply, it could be compared to directional EMP. It's a device which uses high-energy pulses to disable electrical systems. As soon as I hit 25 posts I'll put up a link.

[Uncle Ho]

Why bother with the HERF when the AK-47 is far more effective?

It's cheaper, too.

[Invincible Summer]

Why bother with the HERF when the AK-47 is far more effective?

It's cheaper, too.

Why do you always insist to make incriminating posts?


If you disable the riot police, I think that would be more confusing and debilitating than opening fire on cops that have tactical gear on. Plus, using assault rifles would simply create increased hostility

[Catbus]

What kind of noise does a HERF gun create? Could you semi-stealthily disable their electronics?

[Nebuchadnezzar]

Compared to a blasting LRAD, they're a goddamn whisper. I actually dunno how loud they are, but I know that much.

[Psy]

What would be the point, the only electronic device police rely on is their radio and that can easily be jammed especially if rioters get their hands of police radios as all their frequencies would programmed into their radio as pre-sets so you know what frequencies to jam.

[chegitz guevara]

I imagine if you pointed anything looking like a gun at the popo, they'd shoot you dead.

[ArrowLance]

I think on any small scale riot if something like that were to happen the police would just have a 'WTF?' moment. Or maybe they will call in the stealth bombers, who knows.

[ls]

I imagine if you pointed anything looking like a gun at the popo, they'd shoot you dead.

That's probably true, it's not an amazing idea to point stuff openly at coppers.

[ellipsis]

Tasers, LRADS and other high tech devices would go but they would still have tear gas and other chemical agents, guns, batons, water cannons, etc. So yah in the unlikely event that somebody would have a HERF, I don't think it would be put the the best of uses on riot police.

[Psy]

Tasers, LRADS and other high tech devices would go but they would still have tear gas and other chemical agents, guns, batons, water cannons, etc. So yah in the unlikely event that somebody would have a HERF, I don't think it would be put the the best of uses on riot police.

Right, jamming police radio frequencies would be easier and far more effective, without radios riot police would not be able to coordinate their movement or report what is happening. Epically if protesters are organized and can coordinate their movements without radios (probably be easier to coordinate protesters through signal flags then radios anyway).

[Pavlov's House Party]

if you HERF their equipment from a second-story window?

This is to be taken with a grain of salt, I don't have a HERF gun lying around, but I would like to know how cops react to that sort of thing.

I also seriously doubt anyone has actually done this, but anything remotely similar will be satisfactory.

you're most likely under police surveillance for writing that. if anyone disables police equipment with some kind of EMP device in your neighborhood, expect to have like 4 swat vans pull into your driveway.

[ellipsis]

if anyone disables police equipment with some kind of EMP device in your neighborhood, expect to have like 4 swat vans pull into your driveway.
I hate when that happens!:rolleyes:

[#FF0000]

Why bother with the HERF when the AK-47 is far more effective?

It's cheaper, too.

You have fun with that and tell us how it turns out.

I mean, for all the whining you do, I figured by now you would've gone out and done something that would've really made a statement.

So why are you still here, not arrested or dead, and talking about how we ought to cut straight to some protracted people's war, instead of out doing it yourself?

Answer:Because you're a cop

[Andropov]

Over here they shoot plastic bullets.
Some of the kids that military occupation have killed with the use of plastic bullets.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcdWB4ZqSLI&feature=related
In July plastic bullets were fired in Ardoyne.
It hasnt gone away.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fG0RZYu6ImU

[RED DAVE]

Has anyone around here ever been in an attack by riot cops? I have, twice.

It's horrifying, not funny, and last think you want to do is, as an individual, is try fighting back. As a group, it's possible to resist, but requires organization and discipline. As an individual, you get the fuck out of there.

Comrades should stop fantasizing about scifi weapons and guns and start thinking politically. If you even tried shit like that, you'd probably be caught and put in the slammer for a long time.

RED DAVE

[Psy]

Comrades should stop fantasizing about scifi weapons and guns and start thinking politically. If you even tried shit like that, you'd probably be caught and put in the slammer for a long time.

RED DAVE

Radio jamming dates back to World War 2 so I fail to see how it is sci-fi and Radio jamming can be done from afar and automated meaning it possible to have a unmanned radio jamming transmitter. I find it silly to think a revolutionary army won't even have the technology of WWII armies.

[RED DAVE]

Has anyone around here ever been in an attack by riot cops? I have, twice.

It's horrifying, not funny, and last think you want to do is, as an individual, is try fighting back. As a group, it's possible to resist, but requires organization and discipline. As an individual, you get the fuck out of there.

Comrades should stop fantasizing about scifi weapons and guns and start thinking politically. If you even tried shit like that, you'd probably be caught and put in the slammer for a long time.
Radio jamming dates back to World War 2 so I fail to see how it is sci-fi and Radio jamming can be done from afar and automated meaning it possible to have a unmanned radio jamming transmitter. I find it silly to think a revolutionary army won't even have the technology of WWII armies.
What will riot police do to you....
if you HERF their equipment from a second-story window?

This is to be taken with a grain of salt, I don't have a HERF gun lying around, but I would like to know how cops react to that sort of thing.

I also seriously doubt anyone has actually done this, but anything remotely similar will be satisfactory.The OP specifically refers to individual action, not action by a revolutionary army. In any event, it's a political jerk-off. Most people around here don't know how to organize a union rank-and-file caucus, let alone a revolutionary army.

RED DAVE

[Psy]

The OP specifically refers to individual action, not action by a revolutionary army. In any event, it's a political jerk-off. Most people around here don't know how to organize a union rank-and-file caucus, let alone a revolutionary army.

RED DAVE

Right but my point is even to a revolutionary army I don't see any point to HERF as the electronic device police rely heavily on are radios meaning just getting broadcast workers to turn large radio transmitters into radio jammers would be more far practical espically since radio jamming effects a large area instead of just a line of sight device, meaning all police in the effected area would lose contact with their HQ instead of just a hand full of police.

[pastradamus]

I've decided to close this Thread. Its outlived its usefulness and also does not help anyone here interested in Learning more about class struggle.