View Full Version : No wonder the public has such a weird view of socialism....
RadioRaheem84
12th November 2009, 20:30
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gIxuOabGBE&feature=related
Laughable parables about how capitalism is such a great system while socialism is a prison.
This is really weird. His assumption of what socialism is is all wrong. Why do Americans think that all Socialism is just a bunch of free handouts. The first one is too laughable. The second one treats the American public as if they're little children.
Psy
12th November 2009, 21:28
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gIxuOabGBE&feature=related
Laughable parables about how capitalism is such a great system while socialism is a prison.
This is really weird. His assumption of what socialism is is all wrong. Why do Americans think that all Socialism is just a bunch of free handouts. The first one is too laughable. The second one treats the American public as if they're little children.
The hen story was stupid, capitalists don't do productive work, the hen would simply have owned the land for the crops, tools to harvest and kitchen to bake into bread then paid the other animals that did all the work a tiny fraction of what they produced.
gorillafuck
12th November 2009, 21:49
That hen wasn't bourgeois, she was petty-bourgeois.
Psy
13th November 2009, 00:48
That hen wasn't bourgeois, she was petty-bourgeois.
No the hen would be an artisan as the hen owns no means of production. Notice that the hen first asked who would do the labor in such away she could have easily lost control over the commodity of bread as in the story she had no way to limit access to the means to produce bread as the only justification was that it was her bread since she made it, and not the capitalist and petite-capitalist justification that is was her bread because she owned the means to produce bread.
RadioRaheem84
13th November 2009, 20:35
Growing up in the USA you're left with this impression that capitalism/free markets = democracy but this doesn't seem to be the official view of other people around the world.
For instance when I told my cousins and family in Chile a few years back that I was a Democrat, having no real knowledge of American politics, they assumed that I meant I was left wing. When I told them that
Democrats weren't exclusively left wing, they told me that if you're Democratic in Chile you're closer to the left because you're advocating for democratic say in the economy. This was news to me. I had always thought that the economy was separate from the government, and economic matters were not to be voted on except for a few issues like minimum wage and whatnot.
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