best we forget?

[Pierson's]

as you may have noticed (and listening to the news or reading a newspaper is sure to make it be noticed) today is 11/11, rememberence day. anyway, i was wondering, what do revolutionary leftists generally think about this?

lest we forget? best we forget? which one do you think is a better slogan?

[Drace]

Remembrance of what?
I count on google.com's logo for my daily news so all I know right now is that its Sesame stree'ts 40th anniversary

[CELMX]

remembrance of VETERANS (do you live in america?!?)
lol on the sesame street :laugh:

best we forget...totally

or maybe one against war: fight the rich, not their wars!

[CELMX]

"Bourgeois patriotism, as I view it, is only a very shabby, very narrow, very mercenary, and deeply antihuman passion, having for its object the preservation and maintenance of the power of the national state—that is, the mainstay of all the priveleges of the exploiters throughout the nation."
—Mikhail Bakunin, Letters to a Frenchman

[CELMX]

http://www.seesharppress.com/warquotes.html

great quotes here ^^^

sorry, kinda unrelated, just quotes against war

[Kwisatz Haderach]

This is what we should never forget:

Bent double, like old beggars under sacks,
Knock-kneed, coughing like hags, we cursed through sludge,
Till on the haunting flares we turned our backs
And towards our distant rest began to trudge.
Men marched asleep. Many had lost their boots
But limped on, blood-shod. All went lame; all blind;
Drunk with fatigue; deaf even to the hoots
Of tired, outstripped Five-Nines that dropped behind.

Gas! Gas! Quick, boys! – An ecstasy of fumbling,
Fitting the clumsy helmets just in time;
But someone still was yelling out and stumbling,
And flound'ring like a man in fire or lime...
Dim, through the misty panes and thick green light,
As under a green sea, I saw him drowning.
In all my dreams, before my helpless sight,
He plunges at me, guttering, choking, drowning.

If in some smothering dreams you too could pace
Behind the wagon that we flung him in,
And watch the white eyes writhing in his face,
His hanging face, like a devil's sick of sin;
If you could hear, at every jolt, the blood
Come gargling from the froth-corrupted lungs,
Obscene as cancer, bitter as the cud
Of vile, incurable sores on innocent tongues,
My friend, you would not tell with such high zest
To children ardent for some desperate glory,
The old Lie; Dulce et Decorum est
Pro patria mori.

[Note: This is a WW1 poem by Wilfred Owen, and "Dulce et decorum est pro patria mori" is a famous Latin phrase meaning "It is sweet and right to die for your country"]

[Vladimir Innit Lenin]

We should remember the sacrifice that many people made (I am speaking from the point of view of a Briton), and we should also remember how this demonstrates the destructive nature of war. Instead of turning it into a celebration of 'good vs evil', as capitalism often does, we should really use such an occasion to educate people on the wrongs of war, and spread a message of peace and civility.

[Drace]

Lol, You can just edit you know?

And to the OP, forget what?

[LOLseph Stalin]

We should be remembering the great sacrifices troops made for Imperialism and Capitalism. They have helped the working class.

Oh wait...

[Pierson's]

Remembrance of what?
I count on google.com's logo for my daily news so all I know right now is that its Sesame stree'ts 40th anniversary
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remembrance_Day
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armistice_Day
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veterans_Day
same thing really.

@Kwisatz Haderach
so, you say we should never forget the horrors of war?

And to the OP, forget what?
forget the crap.

we are supposed to remember all those people who died in 'imperialist' wars. they didn't die for themselves, their family, but for the leaders of the country. for king and country!

something on the news yesterday was talking about people who had died in afganistan. why are they dieing? they aren't dieing for me or my kin or my friends. it's only for the interests of the bosses.

should we commemerate the fight between nations?

[Decolonize The Left]

as you may have noticed (and listening to the news or reading a newspaper is sure to make it be noticed) today is 11/11, rememberence day. anyway, i was wondering, what do revolutionary leftists generally think about this?

War is the material conquest of resources. The idea of 'veterans day' is idealism and sophomoric sentimentalism.


lest we forget? best we forget? which one do you think is a better slogan?

We should not forget any wars. All wars are horrible events and we should mourn those who are fighting and lost for no other reason than war is a terrible, terrible, place to find oneself.

That said, we do not support or justify imperialist wars. But our lack of support and justification, and our constant critique of these wars, does not equal cold-blooded anti-human sentiments towards the people who are told to kill and die. It merely shows a larger perspective.

- August