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abbielives!
8th November 2009, 21:24
We are Glenn Becks Nightmare

We all agree its about to explode. Not so long ago in France the Invisible Committee released a pamphlet called The Coming Insurrection. It became the primary piece of evidence in the prosecution of the Tarnac 9. Subsequently The Coming Insurrection spread over the world like wild fire. In its wake, radical communities and outlaw culture rise organically under the banner All Power to the Communes.
Anarchist groups in Eugene, including the Black Tea Society and the Student Insurgent have come together to reprint 1500 copies of this pamphlet for local distribution. We are holding a release party on Saturday the 14th of November at the Campbell Club Co-operative, 1670 Alder St., Eugene Oregon, Anarchist capital of the United States. There will be a potluck and a live jug band performance by the Dirty Commies. As part of building a precedent in the Anarchist community, known snitches, perpetrators, and snitch sympathizers are not welcome.

Please come, bring your friends and food to share. Fuck the 90s fight now!

For more information: http://tarnac9.wordpress.com/

Česká Zbrojovka
9th November 2009, 07:23
As far as Glenn Beck is concerned, I really don't think he fully understands what communism is all about. He uses these as buzzwords to attack the Obama administration because we all know how the right wingers have been socially engineered to, when the word socialism or communism springs up, they immediately think of the Cold War and those evil Russians with all the nukes pointed at them, and the American nukes at them. When they hear him say that, they think immediately about global nuclear homicide.

Red Label
9th November 2009, 13:52
glen becks wife cheated on him with a black Bi communist from russia.
Thats why he turned into a republican, it met all his new bitter needs.
Anti Black
Anti Gay Bi
Anti anyone from the east:)

Česká Zbrojovka
9th November 2009, 18:26
Beck is nothing but a blowhard.
Unfortunately, being the media whore he is;
He is in a very powerful and influential position.
And he has a huge following.

ellipsis
13th November 2009, 15:02
Glen beck has poor tastes in gun stores!

Pirate turtle the 11th
13th November 2009, 16:39
We are Glenn Becks Nightmare


No that would be a pay cut.

Dimentio
14th November 2009, 23:29
I cannot understand the greatness of Beck or Limbaugh.

Limbaugh is worst. He basically only shouts down his opposition. I don't understand this American tendency where you could win a debate by actually domineering over your opponent.

In Sweden, such a behaviour will lose you about half your support. No one likes a man who shouts.

heylelshalem
15th November 2009, 04:10
glen beck is a crackpot. I think the only reason he is on Faux news is that he is very entertaining. Ok well i guess that for some reason he is popular with the fringes of the right wing..like say the birthers and the teabaggers etc. al...

Ravachol
16th November 2009, 00:38
As far as Glenn Beck is concerned, he's like any conservative crackpot. Repreating the old Dirty Communists (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/DirtyCommunists) stereotype over and over again.

What i'm more concerned with is the fixation of parts of the autonomous movement with 'The coming insurrection'.
As someone who hovers between Anarcho-Syndicalism and Post-Operaismo inspired Autonomism, I find it difficult to understand how an extremely non-constructive text composed of a blend between pure rethoric and poetry inspires the Autonomous movement. Now, I can understand not everyone likes dry politico-economic theory and the resulting class analysis, but I think the tendency around 'The coming insurrection' and the affiliated theories as published in Tiqqun are harmfull to Autonomism as a whole.

Not only do they distance themselves from mass-action, any form of class-struggle advocacy is absent as well.

And, I hate to say this but it's true, the perspective from which this text was written is quite petit-bourgoise in nature. It seems to me that the writers consider cultural conditions more important than actual socio-economic relations. Their references to the 'boredom of everyday life' and struggle as an escape from this are closer to Fight-club-esque Nietzschean prose than to any actual form of Anarchism or Autonomism.

The proposal of a 'Great Refusal' and the 'Human Strike' are just absurd.
Control of the means of production and the transformation of social relations from the logic of capital and profit to a free-association based society with workers self-governement isn't going to happen by 'refusing sex to collaborators of capitalism' or "transforming one's view of reality to escape capitalist logic" as proposed by some Tiqqunist papers.
Also, distancing oneself from the masses isn't only gonna be counter-productive, it's just plain impossible to retreat from the social relations that govern modern-day capitalism. First of all, the petit-bourgois romantic ideal of the 'autarkic self-reliant peasant commune' which bears close resemblance to the 'undefined' communes 'the coming insurrecton proposes' doesn't make any sense in the context of 21st century capitalism. It's not desirable, it's a step backwards for the movement and it just doesn't contribute to class struggle AT ALL.

Sure, I guess it's nice to retreat to some commune where you grow your own little crops, debate endlessly over your 'undefined faceless resistance brewing in your commune' whilst wages are being cut, the labour market is being liberalized, jobs are lost, racism is on the rise and the nevermind imperialism and the starving third world.

Retreating in some nonsense neo-romantic commune has been done before by an entire generation of hippies together with their 'all we need is love' bullshit. What did it result in? Exactly, nothing. Half of them are carreerist 'green' politicians rejecting class struggle in favor of reformist nonsense, the other half became apolitical junkies continuing their little 'seperate communes' for the sake of goa-parties (not that I dislike those) and growing weed.

Class Struggle is carried out in everyday life, on the workfloor, in the offices, in the schools, yes INSIDE the system of capitalist logic. Distancing oneself from these relations is distancing oneself from Class Struggle. Not that I oppose the formation of Autonomous Zones within society, whether inside Squats or inside entire neighbourhoods, I'm all for that. But retracting from society isn't gonna solve anything.

Also, the absurd situationist desire to remain 'undefined' and reject any form of organization, in some cases even rejecting ideology is utter nonsense leading to unorganized, unproductive randomness.

I urge any Autonomist or Anarchist taking the struggle seriously to support constructive struggle and above all constructive analysis.

Not to offend any genuine Anarchist/Autonomist seeking to create a better world, but I am convinced the absurd counter-productive theories put forward by the Tiqqun-Tendency (The Coming Insurrection included) are just harmfull to the movement as a whole.

Honggweilo
16th November 2009, 14:26
maybe they could team up with the great peasant commune of the "rural peoples party" :rolleyes:

http://ruralpeople.atspace.org/central_peoples_commune_update.htm

all kidding aside, this kind of collective autism haunts the whole spectre of the left and is fulled by petit-bourgeois radicalism and failing to understand the concrete reality of this age. Once real mass class struggle errupts, these tendencies tend to fade away due to the priority for survival instead of utopianism.

wow that sounded condecenting :p

bcbm
16th November 2009, 14:47
First of all, the petit-bourgois romantic ideal of the 'autarkic self-reliant peasant commune' which bears close resemblance to the 'undefined' communes 'the coming insurrecton proposes'

not really.

Ravachol
16th November 2009, 18:58
not really.

Retreating from society to build one's own communes without any ties to the existing society is as autarkic as it gets imho.

swirling_vortex
17th November 2009, 01:17
I cannot understand the greatness of Beck or Limbaugh.

Limbaugh is worst. He basically only shouts down his opposition. I don't understand this American tendency where you could win a debate by actually domineering over your opponent.

In Sweden, such a behaviour will lose you about half your support. No one likes a man who shouts.
If you think Limbaugh's bad, try listening to Savage. Not only does he always get pissed, but he constantly blames everything on Muslims and calls Obama a "neo-Marxist", whatever the heck that means. But yeah, I never understood how other Americans are so attracted to someone simply shouting at people.

How is Sweden? Is it Glenn Beck's worst nightmare? :)

bcbm
17th November 2009, 07:29
Retreating from society to build one's own communes without any ties to the existing society is as autarkic as it gets imho.

which isn't at all what is proposed in tci.

Kayser_Soso
17th November 2009, 12:03
glen becks wife cheated on him with a black bi communist from russia.
Thats why he turned into a republican, it met all his new bitter needs.
Anti black
anti gay bi
anti anyone from the east:)


please tell me this is true!!! I want to believe!!!

Axle
18th November 2009, 03:13
If you think Limbaugh's bad, try listening to Savage. Not only does he always get pissed, but he constantly blames everything on Muslims and calls Obama a "neo-Marxist", whatever the heck that means. But yeah, I never understood how other Americans are so attracted to someone simply shouting at people.

How is Sweden? Is it Glenn Beck's worst nightmare? :)

As much as I hate Limbaugh and Beck, its Savage who I think is the absolute worst. I mean, THE worst. I don't hesitate to rip into right wing pundits, but I usually stop short of calling them fascists. Michael Savage doesn't get that courtesy from me.

heylelshalem
18th November 2009, 08:01
do the people who follow his ideas even know that he is insane? One would only have to prove that he is a crackpot and we could move on. this is no time for punditry and even the democrats who supposedly run our government piss their pants at the barking of the repubicants .. I would think in a time that liberals in general should be making claims of reperations for the economic damage done by certain corporate interests. Socialized governments in europe take responsibility for their working class. If the difference between the working man and his employ is adversarial..why is the working man out their having tea-bag partys..and the right cackle in their obscenitys commited on the american people.

In a time of economic upheaval the right looked towards the state to prop up what has failed. If the preservation of the old order is necessary? I find a great offense at the usage of FAUX news and other corporate punditry to push certain agendas. We at this point should push in some aspect the value of bohemain rhetoric and say we have been fed a line. But when we have dangerous crackpots running loose with a pulpit so to speak..we can see others who are led astray into their lunacy. I see Mr. beck as a challenge to return the principle of education in contrary form to at least parody this striking event. We can have others who would deny certain realitys, but we also seem to be seeing here certain realitys are so daftly ignored that i find it almost criminal.

We should see journalism as an art in which the word "punditry" is a grave sin. The truth must serve the public and inform them of their position. When are the public then allowed proper tools in which to make their decisions in matters of which i find to be to their benefit.

healthcare is an essential need and that issue has becoming a flogging horse of the far right. In that manner the corporate interest has failed greatly. Some have said that it was not a necessary pursuit...but it was and remains today to be the largest burden of debt that is placed on people.

We should remind mr beck that he recieves rather good health insurance and should possibly seek treatment for his manic depression. A simple dosage of lithium could do him wonders...

swirling_vortex
18th November 2009, 13:14
As much as I hate Limbaugh and Beck, its Savage who I think is the absolute worst. I mean, THE worst. I don't hesitate to rip into right wing pundits, but I usually stop short of calling them fascists. Michael Savage doesn't get that courtesy from me.
I feel the same way. Limbaugh for the most part is just annoying and just rambles on about liberals do this and liberals do that and etc. But Savage has said some very offensive things, such as killing Muslims, deportation of all Muslims, and especially hated for immigrants and immigration reform. Browsing through Wikipedia, the worst comment he probably made was when he entitled Elizabeth Smart as "Snow White Gets Raped By Bum In White Robes." Nice to know you're so caring about rape victims Michael.