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chegitz guevara
7th November 2009, 19:16
Last night I attended a Militant Labor Forum (Socialist Workers Party USA) about the African socialist, Thomas Sankara, leader of the country of Burkina Faso (formerly Upper Volta). It has become all to clear to me in recent years that my knowledge of African socialism is sorely deficient. Why is this? A legacy of my Trotskyist past, to be sure, but also, there just isn't that much out there on the great African revolutionaries: Kwame Nkrumah, Thomas Sankara, Amílcar Cabral, Samora Machel, and how many more can I name? Not many. And what can I tell you about their politics or theories? Nothing.

Unfortunately, the SWP left me with more questions than answers. They talked about a revolution, but from what I can read, it was a coup d'etat. Sankara's politics and ideas were great. In the four years of his rule, infant mortality dropped from 208 per 100,000 to 146 per 100,000, a 30% drop. He outlawed female genital mutilation. He had the northern part of the country reforested to defend against the encroachment of the Sahara.

Yet, I can find nothing about the self-organization of the masses. A revolution isn't just great politics. It isn't doing good works, of which Sankara did many (required all ministers to fly coach, sold the government's fleet of Mercedes-Benzes and replaced them with Renaults). It just seems like top-down socialism to me.

You can read up a little bit of what Sankara wrote here:
http://www.themilitant.com/2009/7314/731449.html

And a little about the Burkinabé Revolution here:
http://reddiarypk.wordpress.com/2008/11/07/on-the-burkinabe-revolution/

Die Neue Zeit
8th November 2009, 04:38
What about Patrice Lumumba?

chegitz guevara
8th November 2009, 16:21
He was a glaring deficiency from my list, definitely. From what I can tell, though, Lumumba wasn't a socialist.

chegitz guevara
8th November 2009, 16:23
But hey!

http://www.marxists.org/subject/africa/index.htm

Die Neue Zeit
8th November 2009, 17:41
Oh well, I think Patrice Lumumba was a positive example of what later on became the "tankie" theory of national-democratic "non-capitalist development":

More Maoist than Mao: Brezhnev? (http://z11.invisionfree.com/Kasama_Threads/index.php?showtopic=434)

BobKKKindle$
8th November 2009, 18:15
A revolution isn't just great politics.

Agreed - although the thing you said at the end about Sankara's rule being a case of "top-down socialism" is a contradiction in terms, because socialism by definition can only be created and run through the efforts of working people acting collectively. If this is so, however, then why do you regard Cuba and Maoist China as examples of socialism in action, given that, in both of those cases, the working class did not come to power, even if it gave support to those who did?

chegitz guevara
9th November 2009, 05:01
I'd rather not get into a discussion on Cuba or China here. :)

Die Neue Zeit
11th November 2009, 03:38
So, any thoughts on "national-democratic revolution" and "non-capitalist development" per the Soviet foreign policy, beyond just "buying friends even where it had military supremacy"?