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Invincible Summer
4th November 2009, 07:08
Article here: http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2009/10/28/ugandas_do_ask_do_tell

An excerpt (emphasis mine):

On Oct. 14, Ugandan Parliamentarian David Bahati introduced the Anti-Homosexuality Bill of 2009, an effort, he says, to protect Ugandan families from what he terms the "creeping evil" of homosexuality

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Homosexuality has always been illegal in Uganda. The Penal Code, drawn heavily from British colonial laws, bans "carnal knowledge of any person against the order of nature," with a possible penalty of life imprisonment. Still, the issue has rarely been a high priority of enforcement for police or the government. Arrests are uncommon, and prosecutions almost nonexistent, in large part because the standard of proof requires authorities to catch offenders in the act.


Bahati's bill would make such arrests and prosecutions easier, something critics warn could be used to falsely accuse rivals or enemies, but proponents say is necessary to give the current ban teeth. In addition to outlawing "any form of sexual relations between persons of the same sex" with penalties up to life imprisonment, the proposed bill criminalizes attempted homosexuality, the aiding and abetting of homosexuality, and promotion of homosexuality -- each carrying a possible prison sentence of seven years. Failure to disclose an offense is also punishable by a fine and three years in prison. And anyone with knowledge of crimes committed is obligated to report them to the authorities within 24 hours. The legislation also creates a new category of offense, "aggravated homosexuality," which is punishable with death. The latter crime would include having homosexual sex with a minor or someone with a disability or having homosexual sex while HIV positive (the bill makes no distinction about whether offenders must be knowingly infected to qualify.)



If homosexuality were legalized, Bahati says, "Our moral fiber will just be torn down. Society will just be in chaos. You'll see men marrying men, which is contrary to what we believe in..."

What a reactionary country.... shit.

MarxSchmarx
4th November 2009, 07:25
Article here: http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2009/10/28/ugandas_do_ask_do_tell

An excerpt (emphasis mine):


What a reactionary country.... shit.

What a pity.

A lot of this is the doing of imperialist powers:


The International Gay and Lesbian Human Rights Commission last year said that it had uncovered evidence that the Bush administration has funded groups in Uganda that actively promote violence and discrimination against lesbians and gay men.

Among those receiving money, according to US government records, is Uganda Muslim Tabliqh, and the Makerere University Community Church,
http://www.365gay.com/news/uganda-to-tighten-law-against-homosexuality/

On the other hand, it hasn't passed and would invite universal scorn from Western donors.

the last donut of the night
6th November 2009, 03:10
What is the position of Ugandan communists on this?
Link, maybe?

h0m0revolutionary
6th November 2009, 09:51
On the other hand, it hasn't passed and would invite universal scorn from Western donors.

It would, but that will do little to help out LGBTQ individuals in that country. The Ugandan Government often paints homosexuality as a western phenomina and homosexuals as western influences in a traditional and religious country.

Western scorn plays into the hands of these tyrants, what is interesting though is that recent months have saw several such measures proposed by differetn countries from right accross the world. It was once true that such laws, especially in Africa were a throwback from colonialisation where the colonial powers introduced them many decades ago.

Now however states are pushing through homophobic laws. But it's not shocking I guess, with spiring inflation and high unemployment, homosexuals are a nice scapegoat.

puke on cops
29th December 2009, 11:13
what, a thread about a state imposing the death penalty and extradition rights over queer people, pushed to page 3 after less than 5 posts?

Surely not... seriously, slightly annoyed that I've read plenty of liberal blogs, journos, boards and more news over the BBC's major semantic fail than I have heard fellow Reds.
Hell, the SWP have actually got a news cutting about it, and even calls in the most vague terms for a rally... http://socialistworker.org/2009/12/17/us-ties-to-uganda-hate-law

Though
This is not the time to be silent. The organization Equality Across America has proposed a day of action to protest the proposed Ugandan hate law on February 4, 2010--the date of a national prayer breakfast in Washington, D.C. Please join in a protest to show you also favor the separation of church and state.

jake williams
31st December 2009, 02:26
I don't know if I'm hanging out with the wrong crowd but "aggravated homosexuality" sounds more like an excited description than a criminal charge.


The Ugandan Government often paints homosexuality as a western phenomina and homosexuals as western influences in a traditional and religious country. ... But it's not shocking I guess, with spiring inflation and high unemployment, homosexuals are a nice scapegoat.
It also isn't helped that so many Western liberal commentators, gay and straight, routinely talk about how gay rights are a part of our Western liberal tradition whereas backward Muslims and African Christians and so on are against it, which means their cultures are defective and we have to invade to fix them. It's really a tragedy that such positions have no interest in actual solidarity with oppressed communities, and are really only interested in racist posturing - because that sort of discourse is a major tool of imperialism.

Okay, they're liberals and we're not and actually we're in solidarity with all oppressed peoples against even the local ruling classes who use homophobia under the guise of anti-imperialism to divide the working class and peasants etc. etc. But the classic imperialist position is precisely to not recognize how easy we - and by 'we' I mostly mean Western culture in generla, but I also mean us more specifically - make it for them to do so.