Why is the navy more mutinous then the army?

[Pirate turtle the 11th]

The army vary rarely mutinites or does anything rebellious unless its concrpited howeverwith the navy we have examples made clear by this libcom artical

http://libcom.org/history/1918-1930-mutiny-and-resistance-in-the-royal-navy

[manic expression]

Just offering first impressions, but I feel there are a few factors. If you mutiny on a ship, it's far more easy to take control of the vessel than to have an entire army refuse orders in the field. I think that the isolated nature of a naval mutiny gives it a better chance of success. Also, in some ways, "rogue" ships are more viable than a "rogue" division, since armies need supply lines; even though ships obviously need supplies, I think that a mutinous vessel can operate independently better than a group of soldiers. And lastly, sailors have more bargaining power because their roles are oftentimes quite specific and a ship doesn't work if a large enough group doesn't show up for duty; armies can still work if a large group refuses orders.

Individual desertion, not mutiny, is more widespread in land armies IIRC.

But I could be wrong, so it'd be neat to hear other posters' views.

[Psy]

Ships are also far more easy to defend since even special forces would have a very hard time clearing a navy ship due to narrow passage ways with many corners and most navy ships have armories with enough firepower to repel a boarding party.

[Pirate turtle the 11th]

Yeah but I want to find out what shapes the two differing mentalities. If you look at for instance British army forums you will see they are full of stories about smashing people in the face rants against Muslims and calling any women who posts a slut. However the navy fourms seem to be full of people who don't seem like mentally unstable right wingers , it seems they have more of a civilian mentality. I'm sure here are more reasons then the army being the first stop for any psycho wanting to kill people legally.

[fidzboi]

Better uniforms, without a doubt! ;)

Seriously though, can't say I've ever thought about this particular conundrum, so I was interested to see what this thread held. And based on what's been said so far, I'd proffer the following reason: the navy is a lot broader than the army, and there's more to the navy than just war. Whilst the same could be said of the army, it is to a much lesser degree.

As Joe put it, there is more of a 'civilian mentality' to the navy forums, and whilst I'll freely admit to not knowing much about naval tasks, I'd speculate that they do more general maritime work than the army does 'land work'. Making the navy more like every other job, and therefore more prone to bouts of working class militancy.

That seems a reasonable explanation to me, but I have no idea whether objective evidence would support this thesis...

[Psy]

Better uniforms, without a doubt! ;)

Seriously though, can't say I've ever thought about this particular conundrum, so I was interested to see what this thread held. And based on what's been said so far, I'd proffer the following reason: the navy is a lot broader than the army, and there's more to the navy than just war. Whilst the same could be said of the army, it is to a much lesser degree.

As Joe put it, there is more of a 'civilian mentality' to the navy forums, and whilst I'll freely admit to not knowing much about naval tasks, I'd speculate that they do more general maritime work than the army does 'land work'. Making the navy more like every other job, and therefore more prone to bouts of working class militancy.

That seems a reasonable explanation to me, but I have no idea whether objective evidence would support this thesis...

Well even on a cargo ship you find the a relationship between crew and ship similar to the relationship between factory workers and factory, the ship can't even have electricity without the labor of the crew. Basically the navy does not attract the lone warrior type as it is basically a floating industrial environment were every action a warship does requires the labor of a large number of people.

[GPDP]

Can we at least agree they're both better than the goons on the Air Force? :D

After all, listening to them, there's no problem that cannot be solved with a little bombing!