Swine Flu - Pandemic or Propoganda?

[hefty_lefty]

Scare tactic, diversion, world emergency or just another money making scheme?
S.A.R.S in pigs clothing?
What are your thoughts on it?

[Die Rote Fahne]

It's real.

It's not as dangerous, at least to healthy young adults, or as deadly as the media portrayed it.

It is dangerous to elderly, preggo women, and young kids, so I advocate getting the shot, not for your sake, but their sake.

The vaccine is 99% identical to the regular flu shot. That 1% is that the inoculated virus is the H1N1 instead of the Human flu.

[Dooga Aetrus Blackrazor]

It's real.

It's not as dangerous, at least to healthy young adults, or as deadly as the media portrayed it.

It is dangerous to elderly, preggo women, and young kids, so I advocate getting the shot, not for your sake, but their sake.

The vaccine is 99% identical to the regular flu shot. That 1% is that the inoculated virus is the H1N1 instead of the Human flu.

The elderly are actually less likely to develop H1N1. They suspect an H1N1-like phenomenon occurred in previous generations that has made them immune.

http://www.cidrap.umn.edu/cidrap/content/influenza/swineflu/news/oct2909estimates.html

"The report also offers estimates of H1N1's impact in different age-groups, which align with the general view that children and young people have been hit hardest. The median estimated incidence of cases is lowest in people aged 65 and older: 107 per 100,000. At the other end of the scale are those between 5 and 24 years old, with an estimate of 2,196 cases per 100,000."

The elderly in this case, unlike in the case of seasonal flu, seem to be at a significantly low risk for developing H1N1.

[hugsandmarxism]

I've been sick with it for over a week and a half now (got tested and everything) and I say don't worry about it.

[*Viva La Revolucion*]

I'm scared of swine flu, but that's only because I'm the type of person who worries about things like that. Sometimes I hate the media...do they want to create mass hysteria? I wouldn't call it progaganda though.

[9]

I had it, no big deal, only lasted about five days for me. So no, it's not propaganda. This sort of conspiratorial thinking is just sort of ridiculous if you ask me. My brother's one of the idiots (I love him, but he's a total idiot) who thinks the vaccines are laced with some sort of drug that makes people apathetic. He's two years older than me, he's obsessed with Jungian philosophy/psychology, and (following from the last point) he never learned critical thinking skills. I work in the medical field and in the US, all people in the medical field have been mandated to get the vaccination. I didn't need to since I've already had the virus, but all my coworkers got the shot (or the live virus via nasal inhaler) a couple days ago. They had some pretty rotten symptoms (as is common for many people after getting any flu vaccination) a couple hours after, but they were all back to normal the following day and feeling fine.
Of course, I don't mean to imply that any concern about getting the vaccination necessarily comes down to conspiratorial thinking. There are many legitimate reasons to be concerned about getting flu vaccinations - they contain trace amounts of mercury and have in the past led to birth defects and (I think) autism in some cases. So that's always good to keep in mind. But if you fall into one of the at-risk categories (pregnant women and, if I remember correctly, young people aged 18-25) and/or you have a shitty immune system, it may be something to consider. And the vaccinations are free (in the US, anyway), though they are on back order in many places.

[Ovi]

I had it, no big deal, only lasted about five days for me
In that case I would take it as harmless. I had the worst flu in my life this year, it lasted 2 weeks with over a week of fever. It was the first time in the last 10 years or so when I had to take pills.

So no, it's not propaganda. This sort of conspiratorial thinking is just sort of ridiculous if you ask me.
Propaganda as in whether the mass hysteria surrounding it is justified. If a single death would be attributed to swine flu in my country they would probably discuss it for over a week, despite the fact that the "usual" flu kills half a million people each year. However the death rate of this strain is 1% compared to 0.1% to normal flu, which, if for some reason it would infect just as many people, would mean it would kill 10 times as many, around 5 million people.

But just like all the other "imminent" threats over the last few years, much of it is used for distraction and of course selling billions of dollars worth of vaccines. By the way is there a reason to believe this strain will infect hundreds of millions of people or even more as some scientist predict? Is it more infective?

[Black Star]

It's both. I know people who've had it and they say it is one of the worst flus they can remember, but at the same time they said at no time did they feel like they were going to die because the virus. So, it is a nasty little virus that's going to around the world - thus being a notable pandemic. However, it's not the Spanish Flu, there aren't going to be millions upon millions dying from it like the propaganda surrounding it says.

[The Accomplice]

I don't really know. It could be both a money making scheme and a legitimate illness. I just don't want to take the vaccinations because like Apikoros mentioned, these vaccines have been known to contain neurotoxins that have permanently effected some people (although not a huge amount of folks). I just don't want to take that chance.

[CELMX]

It's not as bad as it sounds...just like regular flu extended.
The fucking media, though, just has nothing else to talk about, so they grasp onto this minor thing and make it seem like a major 'epidemic'.
Mostly, it's propaganda.
I would say, the vaccine isn't worth it. If ya get, wtv. It's just like the flu. Plus, the side affects aren't worth it, in my opinion. And I don't like injecting random stuff in my body.

*sigh* i just wish everyone around me would just stfu about swine flu (>.<) -_-

[Muzk]

Less propaganda and more interesting story the masses tend to read now-a-days

Don't you like horror movies?

[ls]

I think I've got it and it's fucking pissing me off. Also, people are correct in saying it's partly both.

[*Viva La Revolucion*]

What's actually the difference between swine flu and normal flu? Is it more severe, or just a different strain?

[The Author]

It's a different strain I believe, and I think the Spanish Flu of 1918 was a different strain from the current "swine flu."

I recovered from a bout of illness a couple of weeks ago, and I wasn't worried in the least bit. I think it's more paranoia to keep people in their homes. I found it a bit odd earlier this year how this pandemic was reported in Mexico and other countries right around the time May 1 was taking place. It seemed more a scare tactic to me and I think that's what's going on now.

[proudcomrade]

They are still hoarding understocked supplies of vax here, and telling the rest of us to go fuck ourselves and "check back later". Great times.

Meanwhile, one news article tells me that it's the bubonic plague and that it just killed another pile of healthy people my age; the next article tells me to wash my hands a lot and have a nice day.

I don't know what the hell to think at this point; and I am rapidly getting tired of avoiding fun things and routine tasks due to the possibility of catching it in a crowd. This is really getting to be a bit much.

[RotStern]

Oh fuck I think I may have it my muscles and bones ache I have headache sore throat a cough sneezes.
Its not fun.
Not even worth skipping school.

[Sasha]

never had such an serious flu before, cant stand on my feet... but i guess it will pass...

[Bandito]

Had the bloody thing. Two days and finito!
Seriously, you can easilly scare people when they don't know enough about a specific matter. When it comes to viruses, we, as a human species, don't know enough, let alone people who are not involved in medicine. We could be scared of swine flu, but if we are, why not be scared of HIV getting "airborne"?
All viruses mutate all the time. So can HIV. It can mutate ,become transferable through drops and be spread like flu.
Should we lock ourselves into a mountain cottage with a shotgun because of that? Nah.

Does anyone here take antiviral pills when you get sick? I recon not. I recon 99% of you simply lay in your bed, drink lots of fluid and lemon. Well, the only difference between aH1N1 and normal flu is that swine flu does not react on antiviral drugs, just on TAMIFLU by Roche.

Marketing campaing over people's ignorance.
So typical of capitalism.

[Искра]

I also had swine flue. It wasn't nice, but my organism was week because I was working all day long etc. I had big temperatures and get rid of the shit in few days.
Swine flue's nothing special, and media's made of this buggy man powerful and deadly like AIDS.

[RedRise]

I remember when there was the big bird flue scare. I got it and I was only about eight at the time or something. I was away from school for a while but I came through fine. Couldn't work out why everyone got so worked up about it!
When I saw the media reports on swine flue and saw all these people being taken into the hospital in stretchers with oxygen masks and stuff I thought holy crap it's deadly! I personally haven't contracted swine flu but I know heaps of people who have and they were all fine. It's just a bug - nothing to worry about!:rolleyes:

[black magick hustla]

man i have it. that shit is nasty. also i have a fabulous pneumonia too. hell yea. college is not good for health. i took today like 5 different pills and i havent finished

[proudcomrade]

man i have it. that shit is nasty. also i have a fabulous pneumonia too. hell yea. college is not good for health. i took today like 5 different pills and i havent finished
Whoa, actual pneumonia? Have you gone to the doctor for it?

[Sasha]

if he takes 5 different pills i assume he did.
no pneumonia here but an horible troath pain

[Tatarin]

The swineflu is clearly capitalist propaganda to make money in a time where the economy is stagnant. If you can't get money, you have to threaten people. It's an old trick.

[Moon23]

There is some wako conspiacy doing the rounds about the swine-flue vaccine. Honestly when you think most of the people like David Icke who come up with these things make a living out of conspiacy theories, it's not surprising then is it.

[RotStern]

man i have it. that shit is nasty. also i have a fabulous pneumonia too. hell yea. college is not good for health. i took today like 5 different pills and i havent finished


it suckss :(
have a warm bath, it helped me a lot.

[Luisrah]

The fact that there is more panic than necessary makes me suspicious.
The swine flu is the leat dangerous flu of all. Yet they all talk about this one, and they never talk about the B, C, D etc flus that kill much more people.

I wouldn't mind them talking about the swine flu, if they talked about the rest.
The problem is that all news on TV start with ''another victim of H1N1 in (somewhere)'' and it doesn't start with '' another victim of H1N1 in (somehwere) 25 thousand victims of hunger in (somewhere else) etc.''

There are even rumors that the virus was created in laboratories. And I always find it funny that those viruses never show up in first world countries.
It's always in third world ones. This was for example in Mexico.

But even if the virus wasn't created and wasn't freed on purpose, there is money behind all this. Because the more panic people have of the flu, the more masks and pills they will buy, the more calls they will make to get info etc.
The swine flu distracts the people from the problems of the world. Just like the gladiators distracted the Romans from the corruption.
The more panic there is, the more will the Tamiflu producers make.

You can be sure that there are people getting stupidly rich out of this, and even if it wasn't all planned (just like the Twin Towers) it sure came in handy.

[Česká Zbrojovka]

Scare tactic, diversion, world emergency or just another money making scheme?
S.A.R.S in pigs clothing?
What are your thoughts on it?

It's not as dangerous as the media propaganda makes it out to be IMO, and, I think there are far more sinister agendas going on. By that I mean, there is the possibility that this, like the plagues in China and the Ukraine going on right now, have been released by very evil people against the populations of the world. The vaccine is proven by major scientists to be a fraud -- a deadly fraud.

[9]

^Yeah, teh J00z


The vaccine is proven by major scientists to be a fraud -- a deadly fraud.
Citation needed.

[Česká Zbrojovka]

^Yeah, teh J00z


Citation needed.

Here's one of many:

November 2 2009

A letter from RUSSELL L. BLAYLOCK, M.D.

(His credentials follow in the letter.)

No one should take the swine flu vaccine. It is one of the most dangerous vaccines ever devised.

It contains an immune adjuvant called squalene (MF-59) which has been shown to cause severe autoimmune disorders such as MS, rheumatoid arthritis and Lupus. This is the vaccine adjuvant that is strongly linked to the Gulf War syndrome, which killed over 10,000 soldiers and caused a 200% increase in the fatal disease ALS (Lou Gehreg disease).

This virus H1N1 kills by causing a ”cytokine storm," which means that it cause the body's immune system to overreact and that is why it is killing young people and is a mild disease in the elderly. (The elderly have weakened immune systems.) This vaccine is a very powerful immune stimulator and carries the real possibility of making the lethality of the virus much greater.

One's best protection is vitamin D3. One should take 5000 IU a day now and when the disease begins to spread increase the dose to 15,000 IU a day. Vitamin D3 modulates the immune reaction, reducing the chance of an overreaction and stimulates the body to produce what are called antimicrobial peptides, which are powerful killers of viruses that does not involve immunity. This is dose related, which means the higher the dose of vitamin D3 the better the protection. Fish oils (the best is Carlson's Norwegian lemon flavored fish oil) also reduce immune overreaction. One teaspoon a day should be sufficient. For severe symptoms, one teaspoon twice a day. Antioxidants of various kinds also help. This includes quercetin, curcumin, grapeseed extract, vitamin C and natural vitamin E. A good multivitamin/mineral is also essential.

Feel free to spread this around. People need to know how to protect themselves.


RUSSELL L. BLAYLOCK, M.D.

Dr. Russell Blaylock is a board certified neurosurgeon, author and lecturer. He attended the LSU School of Medicine in New Orleans and completed his general surgical internship and neurosurgical residency at the Medical University of South Carolina in Charleston, South Carolina.

During his residency he ran the neurology program for one year and did a fellowship in neurosurgery after his residency.

For the past 25 years he has practiced neurosurgery in addition to having a nutritional practice. He recently retired from both practices to devote full time to nutritional studies and research.

During his residency training he worked with the eminent neurosurgeon, Dr. Ludwig Kempe.

Together they developed the transcallosal removal of intraventricular tumors, which is still used today.

Dr. Blaylock presented their cases utilizing this technique to the Congress of Neurological Surgeons.

They also developed the ventriculolymphatic shunt in the treatment of hydrocephalus.

In addition, they conducted neuroanatomical studies together with the aim of developing improved approaches in vascular intracranial surgery.

It was during his residency that Dr. Blaylock did much of the primary work on intraventricular monitoring of craniocerebral trauma patients, which was reported in the scientific literature.

He also worked closely with Dr. Peter Jannetta during Dr. Jennetta’s early research on vascular compression of the cranial nerves as a cause of trigeminal neuralgia and hemifacial spasm.

Dr. Blaylock was one of the first neurosurgeons to utilize high-intensity nutritional supplementation in craniocerebral trauma patients, which met with great success.

Dr. Blaylock has written and illustrated three books. The first book was on the subject of excitotoxins (Excitotoxins: The Taste That Kills) and how they are related to diseases of the nervous system. His second book, Health and Nutrition Secrets That Can Save Your Life, covers the common basis of all diseases, nutritional protection against diseases of aging, protection against heavy meta l toxicity, the fluoride debate, pesticide and herbicide toxicity, excitotoxin update, the vaccine controversy, protection against heart attacks and strokes and contains a new chapter on omega-3 fats.

This book has been newly revised as an oversized paperback. His third book, Natural Strategies for Cancer Patients, was released in April, 2003 and discusses the ways to defeat cancer, enhance the effectiveness of conventional treatments and prevent complications associated with these treatments.

In addition, he has written and illustrated three chapters in medical textbooks, written a booklet on nutritional protection against biological terrorism and written and illustrated a booklet on multiple sclerosis. He has written over 30 scientific papers in peer-reviewed journals on a number of subjects.

Since the publication of his first book he has been a guest on numerous national and international syndicated radio programs and appeared on the 700 Club several times. He appeared on Nutritionally Living with Dr. Ward Bond.

Presently, he is engaged in a monthly radio program discussing his book, Health and Nutrition Secrets on Raymond Francis program Beyond Health. The series will run for 12 months. He lectures widely to both lay and professional medical audiences on a variety of nutritional subjects.

Dr. Blaylock serves on the editorial staff of the Journal of the American Nutraceutical Association and is the associate editor of the Journal of American Physicians and Surgeons, official journal of the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons.

He has a monthly nutrition newsletter, published by NewsMax.com, The Blaylock Wellness Newsletter.

Dr. Blaylock serves as the medical consultant f or the Fluoride Toxicity Research Collaborative .He was recently awarded the Integrity in Science award by the Westin Price Foundation. Presently, he is a visiting professor in the department of biological sciences at Belhaven College in Jackson, Mississippi.

At present he is a member of the American Association of Physicians and Surgeons, the American Nutraceutical Association, the International and American Associations of Clinical Nutritionist, the International Academy of Oral Medicine and Toxicology, American College of Nutrition, American Association for Health Freedom, National Health Federation, American Academy of Anti-Aging Medicine and the Price-Pottenger Nutrition Foundation.

He was recently appointed as a member of the Academy of Anti-Aging Medicine and the Price-Pottenger Nutrition Foundation. He was also recently appointed as a member of the Scientific Advisory Panel of the Life-Extension Foundation.

[Česká Zbrojovka]

And it has nothing to do with jews or race.
It's about powerful people with too much money
and time on their hands.

[chegitz guevara]

If you have it, H1N1 is about as dangerous as the regular flu. H1N1, however, is much more contagious, so more people will get it, hence, more people will die from it. As the elderly were more likely to have been exposed that last time around, 1976, they already have an immune response which will most likely prevent them from being sick, or from being as sick. For the young, who've never been exposed, they have no such immunity.

The only people who need to get the vaccine are health care workers, people who interact with lots of people, and those with compromised immune systems or respiratory problem, i.e., the same group who should usually be vaccinated, minus the elderly. Since I'm an asthmatic, I plan to get the vaccine. Also, because I'm not a flying moron who thinks vaccines are more dangerous than the disease*.




*In 1976, the swine flu vaccine was more dangerous than the disease, for two reasons. One, the 1918 Flu had been called the Swine Flu, so everyone was freaking out that the '76 flu was going to be deadly (before they discovered through genetic sequencing that the 1918 flu was actually a bird flu). As a consequence, the rushed an improperly prepared and tested vaccine out which killed 25 people, versus the one who died from the flu. Also, five hundred people may have gotten Guillain-Barré syndrome from the vaccine.

H1N1 has already killed almost 100 people since August in the U.S. alone. Not a lot, but proof enough that it isn't completely harmless either.

[9]

Here's one of many:

November 2 2009

A letter from RUSSELL L. BLAYLOCK, M.D.

(His credentials follow in the letter.)

No one should take the swine flu vaccine. It is one of the most dangerous vaccines ever devised.

It contains an immune adjuvant called squalene (MF-59) which has been shown to cause severe autoimmune disorders such as MS, rheumatoid arthritis and Lupus. This is the vaccine adjuvant that is strongly linked to the Gulf War syndrome, which killed over 10,000 soldiers and caused a 200% increase in the fatal disease ALS (Lou Gehreg disease).

This virus H1N1 kills by causing a ”cytokine storm," which means that it cause the body's immune system to overreact and that is why it is killing young people and is a mild disease in the elderly. (The elderly have weakened immune systems.) This vaccine is a very powerful immune stimulator and carries the real possibility of making the lethality of the virus much greater.

One's best protection is vitamin D3. One should take 5000 IU a day now and when the disease begins to spread increase the dose to 15,000 IU a day. Vitamin D3 modulates the immune reaction, reducing the chance of an overreaction and stimulates the body to produce what are called antimicrobial peptides, which are powerful killers of viruses that does not involve immunity. This is dose related, which means the higher the dose of vitamin D3 the better the protection. Fish oils (the best is Carlson's Norwegian lemon flavored fish oil) also reduce immune overreaction. One teaspoon a day should be sufficient. For severe symptoms, one teaspoon twice a day. Antioxidants of various kinds also help. This includes quercetin, curcumin, grapeseed extract, vitamin C and natural vitamin E. A good multivitamin/mineral is also essential.

Feel free to spread this around. People need to know how to protect themselves.


RUSSELL L. BLAYLOCK, M.D.

Dr. Russell Blaylock is a board certified neurosurgeon, author and lecturer. He attended the LSU School of Medicine in New Orleans and completed his general surgical internship and neurosurgical residency at the Medical University of South Carolina in Charleston, South Carolina.

During his residency he ran the neurology program for one year and did a fellowship in neurosurgery after his residency.

For the past 25 years he has practiced neurosurgery in addition to having a nutritional practice. He recently retired from both practices to devote full time to nutritional studies and research.

During his residency training he worked with the eminent neurosurgeon, Dr. Ludwig Kempe.

Together they developed the transcallosal removal of intraventricular tumors, which is still used today.

Dr. Blaylock presented their cases utilizing this technique to the Congress of Neurological Surgeons.

They also developed the ventriculolymphatic shunt in the treatment of hydrocephalus.

In addition, they conducted neuroanatomical studies together with the aim of developing improved approaches in vascular intracranial surgery.

It was during his residency that Dr. Blaylock did much of the primary work on intraventricular monitoring of craniocerebral trauma patients, which was reported in the scientific literature.

He also worked closely with Dr. Peter Jannetta during Dr. Jennetta’s early research on vascular compression of the cranial nerves as a cause of trigeminal neuralgia and hemifacial spasm.

Dr. Blaylock was one of the first neurosurgeons to utilize high-intensity nutritional supplementation in craniocerebral trauma patients, which met with great success.

Dr. Blaylock has written and illustrated three books. The first book was on the subject of excitotoxins (Excitotoxins: The Taste That Kills) and how they are related to diseases of the nervous system. His second book, Health and Nutrition Secrets That Can Save Your Life, covers the common basis of all diseases, nutritional protection against diseases of aging, protection against heavy meta l toxicity, the fluoride debate, pesticide and herbicide toxicity, excitotoxin update, the vaccine controversy, protection against heart attacks and strokes and contains a new chapter on omega-3 fats.

This book has been newly revised as an oversized paperback. His third book, Natural Strategies for Cancer Patients, was released in April, 2003 and discusses the ways to defeat cancer, enhance the effectiveness of conventional treatments and prevent complications associated with these treatments.

In addition, he has written and illustrated three chapters in medical textbooks, written a booklet on nutritional protection against biological terrorism and written and illustrated a booklet on multiple sclerosis. He has written over 30 scientific papers in peer-reviewed journals on a number of subjects.

Since the publication of his first book he has been a guest on numerous national and international syndicated radio programs and appeared on the 700 Club several times. He appeared on Nutritionally Living with Dr. Ward Bond.

Presently, he is engaged in a monthly radio program discussing his book, Health and Nutrition Secrets on Raymond Francis program Beyond Health. The series will run for 12 months. He lectures widely to both lay and professional medical audiences on a variety of nutritional subjects.

Dr. Blaylock serves on the editorial staff of the Journal of the American Nutraceutical Association and is the associate editor of the Journal of American Physicians and Surgeons, official journal of the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons.

He has a monthly nutrition newsletter, published by NewsMax.com, The Blaylock Wellness Newsletter.

Dr. Blaylock serves as the medical consultant f or the Fluoride Toxicity Research Collaborative .He was recently awarded the Integrity in Science award by the Westin Price Foundation. Presently, he is a visiting professor in the department of biological sciences at Belhaven College in Jackson, Mississippi.

At present he is a member of the American Association of Physicians and Surgeons, the American Nutraceutical Association, the International and American Associations of Clinical Nutritionist, the International Academy of Oral Medicine and Toxicology, American College of Nutrition, American Association for Health Freedom, National Health Federation, American Academy of Anti-Aging Medicine and the Price-Pottenger Nutrition Foundation.

He was recently appointed as a member of the Academy of Anti-Aging Medicine and the Price-Pottenger Nutrition Foundation. He was also recently appointed as a member of the Scientific Advisory Panel of the Life-Extension Foundation.

I think it is generally a good idea to investigate sources.

"Blaylock wrote that the Medical University of South Carolina (where he did his internship) was "deeply embroiled in a leftist-initiated war on Western Culture". He called the American medical system 'collectivist', and blamed this collectivism for the retirement of his friend Miguel Faria."

"Blaylock has asserted that behind the US drug problem was a "nefarious program created in the former Soviet Union that exceeds even the far-reaching imaginations of Hollywood writers". The drug problem, he writes, would weaken the resistance of Western Society (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_Society) to Soviet invasion, undermine religion (which he calls 'the foundation of Western stability and morality'), target schools, harm the work force and work ethic (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Work_ethic), make the youth "unable to resist collectivism", and create a "totalitarian mindset within the United States government". He implicates Fidel Castro (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fidel_Castro), Nikita Kruschev (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikita_Kruschev), Leonid Brezhnev (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leonid_Brezhnev), organized crime syndicates, and their American "leftist accomplices" in the formation of US drug culture. Blaylock implies that the Soviet program was linked to crack-cocaine (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crack-cocaine), fentanyl (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fentanyl), ecstasy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ecstasy) and methamphetamine (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methamphetamine), and that it was responsible for "an epidemic of hepatitis (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hepatitis), AIDS (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AIDS), venereal diseases (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venereal_diseases) and highly resistant tuberculosis (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuberculosis)". He accuses the US media and the US government of knowing about the Soviet plot, but failing to expose it".[27] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russell_Blaylock#cite_note-neuropharm-26)[28] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russell_Blaylock#cite_note-27)[29] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russell_Blaylock#cite_note-28)[30] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russell_Blaylock#cite_note-29)


Seriously...:closedeyes:

[Revy]

Look, it is a pandemic. It's not the common cold we are talking about here. It's not "propaganda". Flu pandemics happen once in a while. For example, the Hong Kong flu in the late '60s, killed 1 million people worldwide, including more than 30,000 in the US. And pandemic experts consider that a "low" death rate. So, many people are going to die, unfortunately, but is there much we can do about it (besides vaccination, or flu treatment)? There's a lot of death that happens due to capitalism and imperialism, that we could change. Flu pandemics are a lot like natural disasters, in fact, they probably can be defined as such.

[Luisrah]

Look, it is a pandemic. It's not the common cold we are talking about here. It's not "propaganda". Flu pandemics happen once in a while. For example, the Hong Kong flu in the late '60s, killed 1 million people worldwide, including more than 30,000 in the US. And pandemic experts consider that a "low" death rate. So, many people are going to die, unfortunately, but is there much we can do about it (besides vaccination, or flu treatment)? There's a lot of death that happens due to capitalism and imperialism, that we could change. Flu pandemics are a lot like natural disasters, in fact, they probably can be defined as such.

The thing is, while the flu may kill a few people (yes, a few), it distracts the people from the problems of the world.
This flu brings 2 major bad things, and they are both related to the panic generated.

1st- Even if the news show that lots of people die of hunger in the world (really lots, 10 million a year), some news about the A flu will quickly make them forget.

2nd- Everyone is afraid of getting the flu and diyng (sp?), people will buy masks, alcohol, lots of soap, they will call the calls centers for info, they will get medicine, they will get the vaccine.
The flu is less dangerous than all the others. All the others kill many more than the A does. According to the WHO, and the pandemic video you all probably know about, it is more probable to die because of a lightning in a storm, than because of the A flu.

But the people fear it. The news and everyone tells them that the A flu kills. And they believe it, as if the A flu was a threat to mankind, as if it was going to kill most of the people on Earth.
And they buy all the stuff I already told you about. And when they buy, someone profits. Yes, profit, the thing we all hate.

There are rumors that the H1N1 is an ''escaped virus''. It showed up on Mexico (of course! I'll tear off my eyes when a ''dangerous'' disease pops up in a first world country)
But even if the virus did appear on Mexico, and only bad living conditions had to do with it, there's profit around.
If this virus wasn't created in a laboratory, and set out on purpose, it sure came in handy to, for example, the producers of the Tamiflu.

They are making fun of us. Just like advertisements/commercials, that make you believe that you need to buy that new vaccum cleaner, or that washing machine, just because it's 1% better than the one you have, those bastards are mocking us by telling us that the flu is super dangerous, that it will spread all over the world, because they know, that when we believe in that (we already do heh) we will run to the shops and buy whatever they tell us we need so that we won't die.

It sure came in handy.

[Plagueround]

It's not anything worth panicking and heading to Nebraska to seek out an elderly black woman with supernatural ties to god, but I would recommend anyone who is able to get the vaccine does so.

[Manifesto]

http://www.revleft.com/vb/picture.php?albumid=360&pictureid=3060

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MS Paint makes it more accurate:

http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs50/f/2009/315/0/0/kshfe_by_rockthemandolin.jpg

[choff]

About 20% of my school is absent because of it, and the district-wide statistic is slightly larger. They've begun talks of closing the schools, but I think they'll wait for the percentage to get higher.

I'll agree with what some of the people on here are saying about some people capitalizing on the fear and naivite of the masses, but I think trying to say it was orchestrated by some big scary "evil" corporation is a little much. I remember reading something relevant to this in one of those Loose Change discussions (crackpot 9/11 conspiracy videos if anyone here is unaware), and someone made a good point that I'll paraphrase. If there was even a shred of credible evidence suggesting a capitalist government unleashed a pandemic on its people, and then followed that up with a cure that was much more dangerous than the original virus in itself, revolution would come in an instant.

As it stands, though, statements like that strike me as rather idealist.

[BogdanV]

The major issue would be the lack of basic knowledge in regards to sanitation. Like washing your hands, or covering your mouth when coughing and sneezing.Its because of these things that such viruses get to spread and proliferate.
Not that I'm comparing the The Plague killed so many people in Europe because they washed themselves about twice an year. The french nobility even had golden scratchers instead of soap!
I'm mostly worried because I'm not a strong type of guy and my school colleagues don't seem to know what soap means, as for the vaccine, it will be a local one, developed by the Cantacuzino Institute. So far, tests done on volunteers seem to be fine.If all goes well, on the 26th, the vaccination campaign begins.

Honestly, the world would've been safer if companies and people would take hygiene seriously (not go wild, just common sense), but in these times, probably some cappie assholes decided to cut spending on maintaining a proper sanitation in farms.

[liono4407]

I remember when there was the big bird flue scare. I got it and I was only about eight at the time or something. I was away from school for a while but I came through fine. Couldn't work out why everyone got so worked up about it!
When I saw the media reports on swine flue and saw all these people being taken into the hospital in stretchers with oxygen masks and stuff I thought holy crap it's deadly! I personally haven't contracted swine flu but I know heaps of people who have and they were all fine. It's just a bug - nothing to worry about!:rolleyes:

Yeah but isn't avian flu like 10x deadlier than normal flu? Or at least that's what I've heard. I'd be more worried about avian flu then swine flu.

I just got the vaccine two days ago so I'm not worried and I wasn't worried about it even before! The only reason I did worry was because I didn't want to miss any classes since this is my first semester of college.

[piet11111]

its nothing to be concerned about but i am still doing my part by consuming a lot of alcohol especially the belgian ones :lol: