pic of marx... - .. it made me sick....

[Felicia]

http://www.algonet.se/~stampede/marx.jpg

[Wolfie]

Probobly done by some american whose hasnt been taught politics. Just that nazi's and communists, and basicly anyone who disagrees with them should be put in one camp while all ideology that adores them to be put in another. It makes me sick.

[Ian]

It doesnt even look like our Karl!

[Subcomandante Marcos]

completely nonsene, what does marx have to do with Nazis ??

This totally shows the level of ignorance of yankis, I wonder if they are going to dress Bakunin like hitler or Fidel like Saddam just because they are anti-american.

(Edited by Subcomandante Marcos at 10:53 pm on April 16, 2003)

[Kapitan Andrey]

Ha-ha! Funny pic!!!

[synthesis]

Complete ignorance! Marx was Jewish!

Hitler utterly despised Marx. The ideologies of the two are entirely unrelated.

[SwedishCommie]

In another forum some one sent me a quote were Hitler said that he had taken infuence from marxism!
I really doubt it was a real quot but it shows how badly educated right wingers are!

[mentalbunny]

Felicia, where did you find the pic?

I know I don't know very much but ignorance like that really gets my goat.

[Felicia]

Quote: from mentalbunny on 9:12 am on April 17, 2003
Felicia, where did you find the pic?

I know I don't know very much but ignorance like that really gets my goat.
I just did a search for pictures of "Marx" and that was one of the results.

SwedishCommie,
well, hitler came to power under the cloak of "socialism" but it's obvious that he wasn't a socialist :biggrin:

[koffeekommie]

sorta like stalin

[Felicia]

Quote: from koffeekommie on 6:44 pm on April 17, 2003
sorta like stalin
heh, if you want to go there :-P

[angry]

ok, first of all..hehe not that it does matter, marx was grey haired..;) and hitler was further to the right than the left..

p.s. felicia what´s up with your stalin image..?
last time i rembember u weren´t a stalinist.. :/

[Kapitan Andrey]

Damn it, Felicia! Please, change your avatar!!! I can't see this DAMN BASTARD, that repressed my grand-fathers!!! :angry: :angry: :angry:

[notyetacommie]

For what?

[El Barbudo]

yep notyetacommie!
felicia, why do you use the avatar of stalin? he was a totalitarian dictator. He's no communist!

[chamo]

I sent the site owner an email, even though his article was in a Scandanavian language, I picked up what the article was about with words that were easy to notice. What can I say? Pure Bullshit. Here's the article (http://www.algonet.se/~stampede/marx.html)

And heres the email I sent:

"you are an idiot. I don't know where you get your crap information from, but how can Marx be an anti-semitist when he is Jewish? Hitler depised Marx's theory and the two idealologies are completley different.

It shows complete ignorance."

[Dawood]

The language is Swedish, my language, a short summary is that he considers Marx to be a antisemite because he used to call people "dirty jew" and such as a insult.
Hmm... if those quotes are real he really was an racist, I can say that much.

[angry]

You really are ignorant aren´t you, educate yourself and then you might be able to realise that marx was not anti semitist, and hitler didn´t want anything to do with him, nor i belive Marx would have wanted anything to do with hitler !!

There is no limit obviously for how STUPID and IGNORANT people can get in this world !

that´s what i sent him..i am not even thinking of answering the post from dawood, with all do respect, think..

[Dawood]

I did not say the quotes in the text are true. I agree with you. All I am saying that IF those quotes that the author had provided was true then Marx would have been a antisemitic racist.

Read what I said again, I did not give any personal opinions on the text, I merely gave a short summary of what the author had written.

[Pete]

Arabs are semites too.

Stalin was a communist. He is the reason that the ideology has even survived this long. Do not turn your back on history because capitalism has pumped you full of propaganda against Stalin. He did industrialize Russia in 10 years, and if he didn't Kapitan, you would be a Nazi slave right now.

[BRIN]

Right on crazy pete

[bluerev002]

That picture is stupid!! Hitler dismissed Communism as a Stupid Jewish belife. Show what an idiot he is whover made that picture.

Oh and Stalin was a Communist! He ran things pretty thightly because he was EXTREMLY paranoid.

And Crazy Pete is right, if it werent for him Hitler would have taken over the Soviet Union.

[Invader Zim]

Quote: from CrazyPete on 2:36 am on April 19, 2003


Stalin was a communist. He is the reason that the ideology has even survived this long. Do not turn your back on history because capitalism has pumped you full of propaganda against Stalin. He did industrialize Russia in 10 years, and if he didn't Kapitan, you would be a Nazi slave right now.


He did industrialize Russia in 10 years, and if he didn't Kapitan, you would be a Nazi slave right now.
with out the winter, he would be a slave under nazi rule as well, infact with out the winter he may b under French rule right now, thats id you want to get technical.

Do not turn your back on history because capitalism has pumped you full of propaganda against Stalin.

Its funny how thats exactly what Nazi's say about the holacaust, but there is only a fine line between stalinism and Facism.

[chamo]

Arabs and Jews are both semites but anti-semite only applies to anti-Jewish, I believe.

It's true Hitler despised Marx and Communism and blamed communism as being a Jewsih theory.

[SwedishCommie]

Ok im gonna translate the article for you!
its a quick translation:

"Many socialists truly believe that socialism is anti-nationalistic and anti-rasist. That some of the most socialistic countries in the world also are the most nationalistic(like The USSR, Kina och Northkorea) doesnt seem to bother anyone at all

Even stranger is that, people who believe that socialism is anti-rasist also states that the origin of socialism is like Karl Marx described it

To state this is very strange. Because Marx was a anti semite and rasist . Marx favorite "dirty word" was "jewboy", "dirty jew", "jewish nigger" and "nigger".

In his writing about the jew issue from 1844 Marx wrote the following:

I cant translate the first quote its to advance for me!
i cant find the english words but the soul meaning of the qoute is that Marx ment that the jews only god is money!

"A society that would abbolish the means of (this next word i dont know if its correctly translated!)chaffering, and there by the possibility of chaffering, would make the jew impossible"

"Money is Israels jealeous god, and no other god should be besides him."

"The Jews god has secularized and become the worlds god. The bill is the real jewish god. His god is only a illusionary bill."

About the socialistleader and competature Ferdinand Lassalle, that Marx hated, Marx said this:

"The jewish nigger"
"A dirty jew disguised with cheap jewelry"

"Its now clear for me that he, that his hair points out, is a offspring from thoose niggers that followed Moses thru Egypt (unless his mother or grand mother was a crossbreed of a nigger). this constelation of a german jew on a niggerbase truly produced a strange hybrid."

Marx cuban nefue Paul Lafarge (That is partialy african) was by Marx called for "the little nigger", "niggern" and "gorilla". Marx claimed that the nefue "problem that is commonly seen in the niggertribe -- he has no shame".
Marx antisemitism and rasism was denied by his new followers by that he was a jew. This is not true. Marx parents were jewish,but they converted to christianity when Marx was a little child.

The next collumn draws connection between Marx and a murder in Sweden

The idea of that socialism is anti-rasist is a lie.

Socialisms father Karl Marx, was a terrible rasist and a jewhater. "



This is purely Bullshit!!!
Or has any one heard or read this qoutes?
Any way my translation is bad so forgive me!

[Dawood]

As I said, if true it would prove that Marx was antisemite. however I think those 'quotes' are forged. He probably found them on some nazi-site

[kingbee]

in some biography of marx (wheen?), he mentions how one critic described marx as awful because he had spawned so many bad people.
1 i dont agree with this

2 wheen pointed out that its not marxs fault- its not as if when you have a bad apple you go to chop down the tree

[Kapitan Andrey]

This is BULLSHIT, and you know that, C.Pete!!!

stalin made hitler the cancler of Germany!!!

No stalin=No hitler.

[Malvinas Argentinas]

Funny picture... its just a picture, not to make a scandal

[NeedForRevolution]

dont make stalin a sort of nice man........
he may have had the basic ideas of communism but he completly missused it.....

[Malvinas Argentinas]

funny picture.., its only a picture, not to make such a scandal

[hoffer]

you are a filty nazi asshole f*cking american or whatever you are

[Felicia]

Angry, Kaptain Andrey, El Barbudo

haha, no way am I a Stalinist. I said before that I was using the avatar because I thought that he was sexy, lol :biggrin:


(Edited by felicia at 7:25 pm on April 24, 2003)

[nz revolution]

Once again AK47 has spouted off mindless rants.

The winter, the winter, once again the bourgeois system fills us with lies. The battle of stalingrad was nothing? why use bullets when you can pelt them with snowballs?

[Kapitan Andrey]

felicia...not sexy...not funny! :angry:

[Felicia]

Quote: from Kapitan Andrey on 3:01 am on April 25, 2003
felicia...not sexy...not funny! :angry:
well, I'm sorry for what he's done to your family. But the hotness thing is a matter of opinion :)

[Comrade Gorley]

Although Hitler's government may have been socialist, his person politics were clearly capitalist.

However the common stereotypes of Nazi Germany and Communist Russia were quite similiar (troops marching through the streets, shouting dictator, the colour gray, etc. etc. etc.) the right-winger who made the picture may have been working off that.

[LeonardSharkey]

Quote: from SwedishCommie on 11:41 am on April 17, 2003
In another forum some one sent me a quote were Hitler said that he had taken infuence from marxism!
I really doubt it was a real quot but it shows how badly educated right wingers are!

Hitler stole bits and bobs from everywhere, bastardised them and twisted them into his own ideology (see Swastika origins)
As for good beginnings leading to horrifying offspring, we dont blame the Beatles for the rise of Phil Collins do we? ;)

[Comrade Gorley]

Quote: from felicia on 7:28 pm on April 16, 2003
http://www.algonet.se/~stampede/marx.jpg


Look at this bull.
http://www.vho.org/GB/Journals/JHR/5/1/Whi...isker69-76.html (http://www.vho.org/GB/Journals/JHR/5/1/Whisker69-76.html)

More "Marx was anti-semitic" BS with very few authentic or valid points.

[Kwisatz Haderach]

Oh, this is fun! Nazis kept spewing out crap about Communism being a "jewish lie", and now their fellow right-wingers switched it to "anti-jewish lie".

Just goes to show that capitalist propaganda will call us whatever looks bad at the time.

[ID2002]

That's it, I am getting my Kalishnakoph and going after the white house!! ANFO included for Gorge W.

[inessa1917]

to tell the truth, I as a citizen of a nearly-fascist country, cannot be very surprised to see things like that. but I don't know how to react either. I could scream, really, but I rather stay silent.

[Yezhov]

I sense an abundance of Ignorance in this thread, in relation to Stalin. CrazyPete, are you perhaps a supporter of Stalin? If you are I thank you for your support.

I see western propaganda has gotten to a lot of you. Without the rearmament and industrialization, mother Russia would have surely fallen. Should that have occurred, it was extremely likely that Hitler would have ever been secure in his European foothold.

Whoever said that it was the winter is partially true, though they have disrearded the length of time that the Nazi forces were sieging Stalingrad and so on..

Nikolai

(Edited by Yezhov at 7:59 am on May 27, 2003)