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cameron222
26th October 2009, 01:38
does anyone know how incapacitating a rubber bullet really is? I am trying to find a nonlethal self defense weapon for my own personal safety.
I am thinking of buying a handgun or taser - the handgun i'd load with rubber bullets, b/c i get more shots than a taser, and i think more range, however I am not sure how incapacitating that truly is, vs, a taser, one shot, incapacitates no mater where you hit them.... a rubber bullet would allow my potential assailant to harm me, when he recovers, if i hit them anywhere except the stomach, groin, or head, no?

note: this post is NOT about weapons, shooting cops, etc, it really is a question for people that have been to demonstrations or know... chitchat.

poll: would you rather shoot someone with a taser, or a rubber bullet,

Pirate turtle the 11th
26th October 2009, 01:41
tazers are better at stopping people although i imagine that rubber bullets are a better deterent.

#FF0000
26th October 2009, 01:49
I'd say rubber bullet, mostly because I'm more comfortable with guns. However, I think a gun is a better deterrent, and people won't be able to tell what kind of bullets it's loaded with. So, yeah.

The Douche
26th October 2009, 06:53
Rubber "bullets" are not fired from firearms, they're fired from paintball guns. You can fire riot control shells from a 12 gauge shotgun, but thats it.

If you use a firearm in the US then it doesn't matter what kind of ammo you use, so you might as well use a round that will stop and kill your assailant. If you're uncomfortable with that then get pepper spray or a tazer, both a quite effective and will give you time to run away.

Sasha
26th October 2009, 07:28
Rubber "bullets" are not fired from firearms, they're fired from paintball guns. You can fire riot control shells from a 12 gauge shotgun, but thats it.


not completle true, you can also use rubbercoated rifle bullets like the israeli army uses: http://www.mindfully.org/Health/2002/Rubber-Bullets-Israeli-Arab25may02.htm
or special pistols like these: http://www.roehm-rg.de/wbk_waffen_rg.html?&L=1 (wich i asume is what the OP is revering to)
by the way, exept the IDF most army's use now a days plastic bullets that come in 357/.38/9 mm, .44, and .45 calibers

The Douche
26th October 2009, 08:13
not completle true, you can also use rubbercoated rifle bullets like the israeli army uses: http://www.mindfully.org/Health/2002/Rubber-Bullets-Israeli-Arab25may02.htm
or special pistols like these: http://www.roehm-rg.de/wbk_waffen_rg.html?&L=1 (wich i asume is what the OP is revering to)
by the way, exept the IDF most army's use now a days plastic bullets that come in 357/.38/9 mm, .44, and .45 calibers

I stand corrected. All I've ever used as far as rubber bullets were either paintball guns or 12 gauge shotguns.

yuon
26th October 2009, 08:30
Rubber bullets can kill just as easily as "normal" bullets. Don't forget that.

:blink:

Dr Mindbender
28th October 2009, 01:13
Rubber bullets can kill just as easily as "normal" bullets. Don't forget that.

:blink:

This is true, anti riot pigs in Northern Ireland have killed people with rubber bullets.

TBH the only way to guarantee not killing someone with a rubber bullet would probably to hit them only in the arms or legs which i could imagine is rather impractical in the heat of the moment, since the torso provides the biggest profile. In a gunfight you wont have time to take aim, especially with short range ammo.

For unarmed scenarios or blade fights my advice would be to learn a martial art. Preferably one that encorporates weapons training.

bcbm
28th October 2009, 01:36
http://www.defensedevices.com/mace-pepper-gun.html

Holden Caulfield
28th October 2009, 01:38
if I lived in America I would totally be a gun nut,
I'ld shoot all sorts of fools who came on my property, when in Rome

Il Medico
28th October 2009, 01:42
if I lived in America I would totally be a gun nut,
I'ld shoot all sorts of fools who came on my property, when in Rome
Sadly this is true. When I first moved to the neighborhood I live in it was full of right wing gun nuts. A friend of mine was actually shot at by some crazy old guy for taking a short cut across his property. (There was no fence or anything, just trying to cut down the time he had to walk to get home.)

gorillafuck
28th October 2009, 02:20
Rubber bullets are lethal.

Dr Mindbender
28th October 2009, 03:00
http://th06.deviantart.net/images/300W/i/2003/39/a/e/Grey_Fox_Cyborg_Ninja.jpg

''Only a fool trusts his life to a weapon''. -Grey Fox.

Epic quote. :lol: