My problem with the talking people over theory.

[RED ARMY FACTION]

People on here say we can beat capitalism and groups like the BNP by talking to the public, but here is how i know you are wrong.

An old mate of mine who i now hate, is a BNP supporter, he is a racist islamophobe, but here is the thing.
He really thinks that blacks and muslims want to destroy britain, he is fucking brainwashed beyond any point of return, and itrs sad, c=because he used to be smart, he used to have a black best friend.
Now he spews all this bile and hate, and it is clear he fucking beleives everything he says.
He is terrified, he is scarred to death of "the country being overun, then what will we do".
I think alot of this stems from his mother being robbed at knifepoint by two black lads from the estate.
This is the reason i do n ot like gangsta rap, it encourages youths to commit crime, then they do and now a whole white family has a racial stereotype in their brain(but thats another matter).
So is this guy beyond redemption, and two is he fair game for me even though we were mates for 14 years and his mother is my dads second cousin.
Please give me some advice because this guy is a charles manson waiting to fucking explode i can see it in him he is fucking going insane

[RED ARMY FACTION]

plus a few others near me are turning into BNP NF morons, and when people say why they are wrong for joining it makes no difference, most of them are itching for blood aswell

[Havet]

If he's abandoned reason then there's no way you'll win him over using reasonable and logical arguments.

Show him this to see what he thinks (it's comedy btw...)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DgnyBIRQN-Q

[LeninBalls]

Point a gun to his head, he'll be a commie in no time.

[Robert]

his mother is my dads second cousin.

Wouldn't it be simpler and more direct, though equally irrelevant, to observe that you and he are third cousins?

[Honggweilo]

Maybe you should watch "death of a president", an alternative reality where bush is assinated by a parent of a soldier who died in Iraq, and look at the direct consiquences

[danyboy27]

People on here say we can beat capitalism and groups like the BNP by talking to the public, but here is how i know you are wrong.

An old mate of mine who i now hate, is a BNP supporter, he is a racist islamophobe, but here is the thing.
He really thinks that blacks and muslims want to destroy britain, he is fucking brainwashed beyond any point of return, and itrs sad, c=because he used to be smart, he used to have a black best friend.
Now he spews all this bile and hate, and it is clear he fucking beleives everything he says.
He is terrified, he is scarred to death of "the country being overun, then what will we do".
I think alot of this stems from his mother being robbed at knifepoint by two black lads from the estate.
This is the reason i do n ot like gangsta rap, it encourages youths to commit crime, then they do and now a whole white family has a racial stereotype in their brain(but thats another matter).
So is this guy beyond redemption, and two is he fair game for me even though we were mates for 14 years and his mother is my dads second cousin.
Please give me some advice because this guy is a charles manson waiting to fucking explode i can see it in him he is fucking going insane

agree with him on the point that islamism is a dangerous religion (like the other ones anyway) but make him understand that someone else race is not really a problem at all. a thug is a thug, black white or yellow, there is no need to focus on race, just condemn tuggery all together.

talk about the holocaust, a lot. bring that issue has much has you can, how so called national socialist bombed Brittish civilian during ww2. being fascist will result of being has stupid has the nazi, national socialism and hatred cannot substain itself without killing, destruction lead to more destruction that the way it is mate.

dont be shy to bash stalin or other leftist leader during the discussion, being critical to the people who are on your side is a great sign of maturity, plus it avoid stalin debate.

[Bud Struggle]

RAF makes a good point--that these Fascists do BELIEVE in what they preach. After all of the years of schooling that teach equality and all of the (Christian) religions that are supposed to teach the same thing--it's interesting that someone could learn so much falsehood so fast--and then believe it all without reflection.

[Honggweilo]

RAF makes a good point--that these Fascists do BELIEVE in what they preach. After all of the years of schooling that teach equality and all of the (Christian) religions that are supposed to teach the same thing--it's interesting that someone could learn so much falsehood so fast--and then believe it all without reflection.
Ofcourse fascists believe what they preach, and fascism isnt illogical, its very rational in the sence that it does work to sustain capitalism in its highest stages of crisis and wants to get rid of laizzer-faire capitalism, it works much more effectively in sustaining capitalism through its vertical corporatism (forced class collaboration) then social democracy does at horizontal corporatism (intermediating class collaboration) at the moment. Fascism does try to get mass appeal through irrational sounding rethoric (provocation, intollerance, glorification of voilence, traditional rolemodels, rascism, anti-modernism, imperialism, mythical spiritualism and extreme nationalism) but with a rational goal.