Captialism is rapidly going KAPUT... Dou you have any plans?

[Omegared]

With the current declining state of the economic system, do any of you all have any special plans (i.e. more intensive organizing, recruitment for example)? Or will it be business as usual.

I am giving it a try and affiliating with local orgs because people may become much more open to Marxism and other the leftist ideals.

I want to eventually starting up social service programs and establishing a political base in the area in the coming year would be effective.

[Dante the Marxist]

Now is not the right time. The economy is weakened, but the armys are stronger than ever. We would be slaughtered.

[Omegared]

Well, my intentions for now were to study the methods of past groups such as the BPP and understand how they got the local community service programs started. I didn't mean take it to a guerrilla-type level yet.

[ArrowLance]

We should always be trying our hardest. The workers are not in a condition for revolution now, and likely will not be in the near future. But the times are a great tool we can use to evidence our claims.

[ellipsis]

I will be using the economic state of affairs as an 'in' to get people to listen about the true nature of their/our condition.

[Tribune]

Wary of the idea (set of ideas, really) that the capitalist system is in rapid collapse. I think a patient reading of history, or as much as is available, counters this too hopeful, too passive notion. Capitalist relations depend upon crisis, upon periods of economic distress. Gains are not lost during these crisis moments. They are consolidated.

Marx understood this, I think - which is why, contra Engels, he stressed action, deliberation, the creation (an effort this, not a received gift from History) of enduring friendship, and perhaps above all - the decision to see clearly.

Crisis does not work automatically to communal, common, social benefit - not when the commons are even more brutally enclosed.

Victory - however temporary - requires insurgence.

Fight, don't assume.

[Paul Cockshott]

With the current declining state of the economic system, do any of you all have any special plans (i.e. more intensive organizing, recruitment for example)? Or will it be business as usual.

I am giving it a try and affiliating with local orgs because people may become much more open to Marxism and other the leftist ideals.

I want to eventually starting up social service programs and establishing a political base in the area in the coming year would be effective.

For a detailed economic alternative see:
http://ricardo.ecn.wfu.edu/~cottrell/socialism_book/

[Omegared]

Thanks Tribune, Sounds like a book I was reading called Shock Doctrine: The Rise of Disaster Capitalism by Naomi Klein.

That is why I thought that plans for action were important because I am very well aware of the fact that this opportunity will not last forever and the Capitalist Class in the US and worldwide will use this to their benefit and offer some "solution" that will solidify their hold on power and that "solution", what ever it may be will unfortunately be accepted by the masses.

[xtremerebel]

Peacefully take advantage of the situation through political means, and work with other communist organizations in the area to progress through those means. The poster above is right. Military forces are stronger than ever. We would be slaughtered and decimated if we tried anything radical.

I also think that if history shows anything, it's that right before complete economic collapse happens, the state will turn into a dictatorship/police state where the citizens are brutally oppressed.

So we must be tame in our actions, or else all the work, all the progress, all the planning will be crushed.

[the last donut of the night]

My plans are sipping on a nice Bordeaux, kicking back and watching the working class rebel and bring in communism, because history is teleological and I don't have to do anything about it.


:rolleyes:

[KC]

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