Fun Facts about my poli sci prof

[jake williams]

He:

... claims it's a "communist myth" that Hitler was backed by the German bourgeoisie

... insisted on Nazism's status as a "socialist movement"

... recommends Solzhenitsyn's "One Day in the Life of Ivan Denisovich" as an introduction to modern Russian history and politics


Yep, gonna be a good semester. I don't really go to class much so while we've started Russia I'm not really sure what he's saying about it. I can guess though.

[JazzRemington]

I had an international business class once. The teacher, while knowing a great deal about international economics, couldn't help but descend into tirades about conspiracy theories and how the EU and UN are evil, satanic organizations bent on global domination. I, of course, was sitting right in the middle front of the class.

[spiltteeth]

He:

... claims it's a "communist myth" that Hitler was backed by the German bourgeoisie

... insisted on Nazism's status as a "socialist movement"

... recommends Solzhenitsyn's "One Day in the Life of Ivan Denisovich" as an introduction to modern Russian history and politics


Yep, gonna be a good semester. I don't really go to class much so while we've started Russia I'm not really sure what he's saying about it. I can guess though.

Give him Blackshirts and Reds by Michael Parenti

[GPDP]

Sounds like you got a hell of a reactionary there.

Meanwhile, I've yet to get a Political Science professor who isn't at least a left-liberal. In fact, one of them is a self-professed Marxist (with an annoying obsession with Obama), while another is a fiery Vietnam veteran who only calls himself a "little-d democrat," but is in fact even more radical than the former, and even considers himself a revolutionary.

So yeah, I've been in good company for some time now. :)

[Sam_b]

recommends Solzhenitsyn's "One Day in the Life of Ivan Denisovich" as an introduction to modern Russian history and politics

Its an important landmark in the subversion of Soviet Socialist Realism and i've written on it extensively.

[NecroCommie]

Who the hell they let away with the title "professor" these days... :glare:

[#FF0000]

Well uh that communist myth should be easy to back up since it's true.

[jake williams]

Its an important landmark in the subversion of Soviet Socialist Realism and i've written on it extensively.
Whatever its importance in Soviet history, he's prescribing it as a basic introduction to Soviet society. Actually, more specifically he wants us to see the movie, so he's certainly not interested in the subtleties of its social and historical context.

[Invincible Summer]

I stopped taking poli sci classes because the profs got increasingly reactionary, and lots of the other students were either hardcore conservatives or centre-left liberals that think Canada is socialist.

[spiltteeth]

You college folks should drop out. Let's all get together and start a real college!

[Guerrilla22]

what college do you go to?

[jake williams]

what college do you go to?
Me? McGill University. It's got a "good" reputation in Canada for being, well, frankly, exclusive. It's got a bad reputation, however, in a lot of Québec, for being elitist and anglo-chauvinist.

It's a long story as to why I'm going here, I'd really rather not go into it.

[Angry Young Man]

Me? McGill University. It's got a "good" reputation in Canada for being, well, frankly, exclusive. It's got a bad reputation, however, in a lot of Québec, for being elitist and anglo-chauvinist.

It's a long story as to why I'm going here, I'd really rather not go into it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0yKvi5CYWM
Go to 4:44 for my response. Sorry, I couldn't find just that bit

[jake williams]

Go to 4:44 for my response. Sorry, I couldn't find just that bit
Hahaha. That's a long clip for a brief response.

[Angry Young Man]

Like I say, I couldn't find the 'I do, I do/I must, I must' bit. Shame, really, cos that'd be a good meme in my eye

[black magick hustla]

this is why i study hard sciences. nobody rambles about commies and millenarian sects. nor i have to strike the ego of a shitty prof by making notes about his opinions on the issue because well ---- a lot of politics oriented degrees are majors in opinions lol

[Invincible Summer]

this is why i study hard sciences. nobody rambles about commies and millenarian sects. nor i have to strike the ego of a shitty prof by making notes about his opinions on the issue because well ---- a lot of politics oriented degrees are majors in opinions lol


A lot of Arts & Humanities degrees are majors in opinions... and you're marked on how well you can back up your opinion with random academic journal articles.

[spiltteeth]

He:

... claims it's a "communist myth" that Hitler was backed by the German bourgeoisie

... insisted on Nazism's status as a "socialist movement"

... recommends Solzhenitsyn's "One Day in the Life of Ivan Denisovich" as an introduction to modern Russian history and politics


Yep, gonna be a good semester. I don't really go to class much so while we've started Russia I'm not really sure what he's saying about it. I can guess though.

Just tell him "Comrade Stalin knew what to do with professors like you- You'd be teaching your frozen toes how to stay warm in the gulag!"

[JazzRemington]

A lot of Arts & Humanities degrees are majors in opinions... and you're marked on how well you can back up your opinion with random academic journal articles.

Yes. But the hardest part of it is when you have no particular opinion on something.

[RHIZOMES]

Hahaha owned. Some of the fun facts about my Sociology lecturer:

*He was a part of the British far left, met Tony Cliff

*Inserted Zizek in the course (Previously didn't have Zizek) and quoted Ernest Mandel, Antonio Negri/Michael Hardt in lecture slides and had "Postmodernism: The Cultural Logic of Late Capitalism" and "State and Revolution" on the reading list, among others.

*One of the assignment questions is " Is Slavoj Zizek correct to claim that a revolutionary terror which necessarily rejects ‘a priori norms’ such as human rights and democracy the only realistic option for transforming society? Is such a praxis justifiable?"


*When a student asked if he could make an essay critical of Marxism he said it'd be hard to do since Marxist analysis is so rooted in reality and most arguments against Marxism are logically flawed

*In the last lecture, the conclusion from everything we'd learnt the entire semester was "communism is the only answer"

[RHIZOMES]

how the EU and UN are evil, satanic organizations bent on global domination.

Other than satanic that's pretty much true.

I stopped taking poli sci classes because the profs got increasingly reactionary, and lots of the other students were either hardcore conservatives or centre-left liberals that think Canada is socialist.

Out of all the Arts depts at my University, I'd say Pol Sci is the most reactionary overall. They take a lot of bourgeois concepts completely for granted and there usually isn't much room to display radicalism (Except in like 2 or 3 papers).

[Kayser_Soso]

He:

... claims it's a "communist myth" that Hitler was backed by the German bourgeoisie

... insisted on Nazism's status as a "socialist movement"

... recommends Solzhenitsyn's "One Day in the Life of Ivan Denisovich" as an introduction to modern Russian history and politics


Yep, gonna be a good semester. I don't really go to class much so while we've started Russia I'm not really sure what he's saying about it. I can guess though.


LULZ aplenty. As for the first "myth", tell him to get ahold of the copy of BBC's documentary on Nazism. Apparently they didn't think it was a Communist myth at all.

[jake williams]

Hahaha owned. Some of the fun facts about my Sociology lecturer:

*He was a part of the British far left, met Tony Cliff

*Inserted Zizek in the course (Previously didn't have Zizek) and quoted Ernest Mandel, Antonio Negri/Michael Hardt in lecture slides and had "Postmodernism: The Cultural Logic of Late Capitalism" and "State and Revolution" on the reading list, among others.

*One of the assignment questions is " Is Slavoj Zizek correct to claim that a revolutionary terror which necessarily rejects ‘a priori norms’ such as human rights and democracy the only realistic option for transforming society? Is such a praxis justifiable?"


*When a student asked if he could make an essay critical of Marxism he said it'd be hard to do since Marxist analysis is so rooted in reality and most arguments against Marxism are logically flawed

*In the last lecture, the conclusion from everything we'd learnt the entire semester was "communism is the only answer"
Fuck you that's awesome. What the hell university?

[Il Medico]

Hahaha owned. Some of the fun facts about my Sociology lecturer:

*He was a part of the British far left, met Tony Cliff

*Inserted Zizek in the course (Previously didn't have Zizek) and quoted Ernest Mandel, Antonio Negri/Michael Hardt in lecture slides and had "Postmodernism: The Cultural Logic of Late Capitalism" and "State and Revolution" on the reading list, among others.

*One of the assignment questions is " Is Slavoj Zizek correct to claim that a revolutionary terror which necessarily rejects ‘a priori norms’ such as human rights and democracy the only realistic option for transforming society? Is such a praxis justifiable?"


*When a student asked if he could make an essay critical of Marxism he said it'd be hard to do since Marxist analysis is so rooted in reality and most arguments against Marxism are logically flawed

*In the last lecture, the conclusion from everything we'd learnt the entire semester was "communism is the only answer"
What fucking school do you go to?? I must transfer there!

[black magick hustla]

man you guys are boring. id rather have a conservative maverick as a professor than someone who just jacks me off and says the same shit i would say. there is no learning whatsoever if smart people dont question ya

[Invincible Summer]

man you guys are boring. id rather have a conservative maverick as a professor than someone who just jacks me off and says the same shit i would say. there is no learning whatsoever if smart people dont question ya

True. At the same time though, if they're totally ignorant then it's probably more aggravating than "mentally stimulating."

[Bilan]

Mine just masturbates over Plato, Aristotle and Machiavelli.

[Bilan]

man you guys are boring. id rather have a conservative maverick as a professor than someone who just jacks me off and says the same shit i would say. there is no learning whatsoever if smart people dont question ya

Werd.

[jake williams]

man you guys are boring. id rather have a conservative maverick as a professor than someone who just jacks me off and says the same shit i would say. there is no learning whatsoever if smart people dont question ya
But they're not 'smart' and they don't question me. Folks like this aren't even aware of the objections I have to them. You really have to try to comprehend how narrow their pretend understanding of the world is. If ever I raise "Marxist objections" (for lack of a better way of putting it), the general response is, that sounds weird, I've never really thought of it before.

[Il Medico]

man you guys are boring. id rather have a conservative maverick as a professor than someone who just jacks me off and says the same shit i would say. there is no learning whatsoever if smart people dont question ya
The problem I have found with Conservative professors/teachers is that when it comes down to politics they are just conservatives (aka know absolutely nothing but 40 year old American propaganda.)

[Nwoye]

Hahaha owned. Some of the fun facts about my Sociology lecturer:

*He was a part of the British far left, met Tony Cliff

*Inserted Zizek in the course (Previously didn't have Zizek) and quoted Ernest Mandel, Antonio Negri/Michael Hardt in lecture slides and had "Postmodernism: The Cultural Logic of Late Capitalism" and "State and Revolution" on the reading list, among others.

*One of the assignment questions is " Is Slavoj Zizek correct to claim that a revolutionary terror which necessarily rejects ‘a priori norms’ such as human rights and democracy the only realistic option for transforming society? Is such a praxis justifiable?"

*When a student asked if he could make an essay critical of Marxism he said it'd be hard to do since Marxist analysis is so rooted in reality and most arguments against Marxism are logically flawed

*In the last lecture, the conclusion from everything we'd learnt the entire semester was "communism is the only answer"
that would be pretty cool at first, and i would love to sit down and have coffee and what not with your prof, but you're still essentially getting a degree in opinion.

[Nwoye]

man you guys are boring. id rather have a conservative maverick as a professor than someone who just jacks me off and says the same shit i would say. there is no learning whatsoever if smart people dont question ya
and this too

[black magick hustla]

But they're not 'smart' and they don't question me. Folks like this aren't even aware of the objections I have to them. You really have to try to comprehend how narrow their pretend understanding of the world is. If ever I raise "Marxist objections" (for lack of a better way of putting it), the general response is, that sounds weird, I've never really thought of it before.

idk where you are studying. the polisci profs i had (ive taken just some of those for the kicks) are generally acquainted with marx. maybe its because ive only taken political philosophy, not polisci perse, but my profs know marx fairly well simply because he is just too big to not notice in political philosophy. one ofmy profs was this really old conservative black guy and he was one of the best profs ive ever had. the leftists hate his guts but thats because a lot of leftists just want people to suck their dicks/vaginaes rather than be questioned


The problem I have found with Conservative professors/teachers is that when it comes down to politics they are just conservatives (aka know absolutely nothing but 40 year old American propaganda.)
a lot of highschool teachers are dumb as stones but college professors probably know marx a fair bit. i mean you have to study that shit deeply to get a phd in poli sci, or whatever they call that mickey mouse shit nowadays.

[Il Medico]

a lot of highschool teachers are dumb as stones but college professors probably know marx a fair bit. i mean you have to study that shit deeply to get a phd in poli sci, or whatever they call that mickey mouse shit nowadays.
The Political Science professor I talked to (along with a number history professors) were aware that there were different tendencies of leftism, but insisted that Trotskyist, Left Communist, Stalinist, and Anarchist all wanted the same thing. According to them that thing is to have a despotic dictator, rob everyone of individuality, and punish people who work hard. They don't seem all that learned to me. They certainly believe the shit their saying, but I guess if your going to hire people to indoctrinate students with lies, you should pick people who actually believe them.

[manic expression]

man you guys are boring. id rather have a conservative maverick as a professor than someone who just jacks me off and says the same shit i would say. there is no learning whatsoever if smart people dont question ya

Having an anti-socialist professor isn't as cool when your position gets misrepresented and shouted down for the tenth time. Or when the entire context of situations gets ignored and twisted to support the anti-socialist viewpoint. Sure, there's a difference between being questioned and having to endure an intellectual hack, but in some cases, I've found that conservative professors simply can't tell the difference.

[jake williams]

The Political Science professor I talked to (along with a number history professors) were aware that there were different tendencies of leftism, but insisted that Trotskyist, Left Communist, Stalinist, and Anarchist all wanted the same thing. According to them that thing is to have a despotic dictator, rob everyone of individuality, and punish people who work hard. They don't seem all that learned to me. They certainly believe the shit their saying, but I guess if your going to hire people to indoctrinate students with lies, you should pick people who actually believe them.

Having an anti-socialist professor isn't as cool when your position gets misrepresented and shouted down for the tenth time. Or when the entire context of situations gets ignored and twisted to support the anti-socialist viewpoint. Sure, there's a difference between being questioned and having to endure an intellectual hack, but in some cases, I've found that conservative professors simply can't tell the difference.

This and this.

[Glenn Beck]

this is why i study hard sciences. nobody rambles about commies and millenarian sects. nor i have to strike the ego of a shitty prof by making notes about his opinions on the issue because well ---- a lot of politics oriented degrees are majors in opinions lol

Yeah, there are a hell of alot of fucking prima donnas in the social sciences, though it doesn't have to be that way academia really encourages that kind of shit and the fact that they're all a bunch of liberals doesn't help any. The worst is when you get one of those pricks yet one who happens to call himself a Marxist... When he finds out your views he expects nothing more than a circle jerk lovefest and it really gets in the way of any kind of constructive discussion