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Dimentio
16th October 2009, 06:58
My first thought when I read this article (http://edition.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/europe/10/15/england.far.right.party/index.html?iref=topnews) from the CNN was a spontaneous WTF. I knew they were racists, but I didn't know they were so openly racist. I know far right parties like the Front National and the Sweden Democrats often accept members with foreign heritage as a cover.
BNP seems to be a bit closer to classical racist thought. How the **** do they manage to get such a support base?
jake williams
16th October 2009, 07:42
BNP seems to be a bit closer to classical racist thought. How the **** do they manage to get such a support base?
No viable political option for the British working class, especially within the economy + economic downturn + false consciousness.
Dimentio
16th October 2009, 11:51
Yes yes yes. But in other countries, the far right doesn't claim there is something wrong with people for not being white. Instead, they are targeting muslims. In Sweden we have that bizarre situation that fascists like Israel and hate muslims while nazis like muslims and hate Israel.
ellipsis
16th October 2009, 12:13
Maybe they should call tyrone biggums.
Jazzratt
16th October 2009, 12:22
Yes yes yes. But in other countries, the far right doesn't claim there is something wrong with people for not being white. Instead, they are targeting muslims. In Sweden we have that bizarre situation that fascists like Israel and hate muslims while nazis like muslims and hate Israel.
Well, currently the BNP is mainly having a go at muslims and, of course, "illegals" which are both "soft targets". However they have realised the strategic value of forming links with nonwhite groups, at least in this stage of their development and have actually managed to do so in some cases (apparently they have "good relations" with the Sikh community, or so I read on their website a while back). That they are now forced to accept members who are nonwhite is not going to stymie them in the way it was intended to, illustrate again that they are not a threat you can simpl "legislate away".
AntifaAustralia
16th October 2009, 15:20
sounds like pathetic international nationalists. this BNP policy minds me of the similar philosophy of the national anarchists, it is kind of a nihilist pessimistic attitude.
back in the australia against imperialist japan days an ex-communist fascist attempted to make peace with fascist japan! unbelievable stupidity! Anglo supremacist allying with a Japanese supremacist, i am speechless, it is pure stupidity :laugh:
Dimentio
16th October 2009, 16:11
sounds like pathetic international nationalists. this BNP policy minds me of the similar philosophy of the national anarchists, it is kind of a nihilist pessimistic attitude.
back in the australia against imperialist japan days an ex-communist fascist attempted to make peace with fascist japan! unbelievable stupidity! Anglo supremacist allying with a Japanese supremacist, i am speechless, it is pure stupidity :laugh:
In Sweden today, there is actually a national socialist-islamist alliance which is in the making. Mohamed Omar, a Swedish-Iranian poet, has started a blog where he attacks Israel and propagates Holocaust revisionism, leading to him being courted by neonazis.
In the 20th of September in Stockholm, he arranged the al-Qods demonstration (http://lassewilhelmson.files.wordpress.com/2009/09/lw_quds_20090920_p1.jpg) for the Palestinians, and it was a really bizarre sight. Neonazi skinheads demonstrating together with Palestinian Hamas supporters on the one side, and on the other side libertarian communists demonstrating together with Sweden democrats and Iranian royalists. It must have been the two most bizarre demonstrations ever.
Philosophical Materialist
16th October 2009, 16:38
They are racist and fascist. They are only now letting in non-whites because the law requires them to do this.
Although traditionally anti-Semitic, they dropped some of this dialogue to take advantage of anti-Muslim and anti-Asian sentiment post-9/11. In recent years Griffin went so far as to praise Israel foreign policy because their enemy of their new enemy was their temporary friend.
This trend has now been reversed, as BNP official propaganda has now been openly spreading Holocaust denial and anti-Semitism. Why the change? Well the BNP tried to harnass support from the lower middle class, and recently this sector of the population has become more disenchanted about the Iraq and Afghan Wars. The result being is that the BNP has reversed its previous pro-war position into an anti-war position, calling these wars for the "benefit of Zion".
Showing how the BNP have reverted to type this year is the following article "Jewish Bolsheviks to blame for Holocaust" as reported on by a Jewish community blog. http://thecst.org.uk/blog/?p=470
There is also the cyclical nature of the business cycle and capitalist crises. Anti-Semitism usually finds fertile ground in such an environment.
Dr Mindbender
16th October 2009, 17:17
From what i understand, the BNP arent going to take in non whites, but instead freeze the new member procedure so they cant be accused of racism and still not have to worry about recruiting anyone who isnt white.
Either way, it seems like theyre facing a legal check mate because either their party numbers will remain stagnant and shrink with the help of the grim reaper or they will continue to shrug off the legislation and become banned.
Redmau5
16th October 2009, 17:31
They are only now letting in non-whites because the law requires them to do this.
Exactly. The BNP will simply remove the part of their constitution which makes reference to 'caucasian only' membership. Although they will soon be legally obliged to accept non-white members, how many non-white people are actually going to apply for membership of the BNP? Even if (for whatever bizarre reason they want to join) a non-white person is successful in their application for membership, how would they be treated by the so-called "indigenous" members of the party?
I don't think this decision will have any real effect on the make-up or racist policies of the BNP, although it is certainly humiliating for them having to back track.
Dimentio
16th October 2009, 21:29
Exactly. The BNP will simply remove the part of their constitution which makes reference to 'caucasian only' membership. Although they will soon be legally obliged to accept non-white members, how many non-white people are actually going to apply for membership of the BNP? Even if (for whatever bizarre reason they want to join) a non-white person is successful in their application for membership, how would they be treated by the so-called "indigenous" members of the party?
I don't think this decision will have any real effect on the make-up or racist policies of the BNP, although it is certainly humiliating for them having to back track.
I guess the BNP aren't ashamed for being racist. The Sweden democrats are actively trying to recruit immigrants as a sort of "we are not racist-alibi"-
Yazman
31st October 2009, 09:07
Just because they're legally required to do it it doesn't mean they will approve non-white memberships anyway. Even if they remove that part of the constitution they can just arbitrarily approve memberships so as to keep a white-only member base anyway.
ls
31st October 2009, 09:20
I guess the BNP aren't ashamed for being racist. The Sweden democrats are actively trying to recruit immigrants as a sort of "we are not racist-alibi"-
The BNP do this too attempting to use hindus/sikhs (http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2001/dec/23/race.politics) & jews (http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2008/apr/10/thefarright.race) against "the threat of Islam".
The European far-right seeks to scapegoat Muslims more than any other minority at the moment, purely for popularity reasons. The far-right always seeks to do things like this, haven't there been meetings between the NOI and the KKK before?
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