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Guerrilla22
16th October 2009, 00:21
NEW ORLEANS – A Louisiana justice of the peace said he refused to issue a marriage license to an interracial couple out of concern for any children the couple might have. Keith Bardwell, justice of the peace in Tangipahoa Parish, says it is his experience that most interracial marriages do not last long.
"I'm not a racist. I just don't believe in mixing the races that way," Bardwell told the Associated Press on Thursday. "I have piles and piles of black friends. They come to my home, I marry them, they use my bathroom. I treat them just like everyone else."
Bardwell said he asks everyone who calls about marriage if they are a mixed race couple. If they are, he does not marry them, he said.
Bardwell said he has discussed the topic with blacks and whites, along with witnessing some interracial marriages. He came to the conclusion that most of black society does not readily accept offspring of such relationships, and neither does white society, he said.
"There is a problem with both groups accepting a child from such a marriage," Bardwell said. "I think those children suffer and I won't help put them through it."
If he did an interracial marriage for one couple, he must do the same for all, he said.
"I try to treat everyone equally," he said.
Bardwell estimates that he has refused to marry about four couples during his career, all in the past 2 1/2 years.
Beth Humphrey, 30, and 32-year-old Terence McKay, both of Hammond, say they will consult the U.S. Justice Department about filing a discrimination complaint.
Humphrey, an account manager for a marketing firm, said she and McKay, a welder, just returned to Louisiana. She is white and he is black. She plans to enroll in the University of New Orleans to pursue a masters degree in minority politics.
"That was one thing that made this so unbelievable," she said. "It's not something you expect in this day and age."
Humphrey said she called Bardwell on Oct. 6 to inquire about getting a marriage license signed. She says Bardwell's wife told her that Bardwell will not sign marriage licenses for interracial couples. Bardwell suggested the couple go to another justice of the peace in the parish who agreed to marry them.
"We are looking forward to having children," Humphrey said. "And all our friends and co-workers have been very supportive. Except for this, we're typical happy newlyweds."
"It is really astonishing and disappointing to see this come up in 2009," said American Civil Liberties Union of Louisiana attorney Katie Schwartzmann. She said the Supreme Court ruled in 1967 "that the government cannot tell people who they can and cannot marry."
The ACLU sent a letter to the Louisiana Judiciary Committee, which oversees the state justices of the peace, asking them to investigate Bardwell and recommending "the most severe sanctions available, because such blatant bigotry poses a substantial threat of serious harm to the administration of justice."
"He knew he was breaking the law, but continued to do it," Schwartzmann said.
According to the clerk of court's office, application for a marriage license must be made three days before the ceremony because there is a 72-hour waiting period. The applicants are asked if they have previously been married. If so, they must show how the marriage ended, such as divorce.
Other than that, all they need is a birth certificate and Social Security card.
The license fee is $35, and the license must be signed by a Louisiana minister, justice of the peace or judge. The original is returned to the clerk's office.
"I've been a justice of the peace for 34 years and I don't think I've mistreated anybody," Bardwell said. "I've made some mistakes, but you have too. I didn't tell this couple they couldn't get married. I just told them I wouldn't do it."

Stranger Than Paradise
16th October 2009, 07:48
Very fucking sad that things seemed to have not changed in the minds of the Louisiana lawmakers in fifty years.

RedAnarchist
16th October 2009, 12:08
NEW ORLEANS – A Louisiana justice of the peace said he refused to issue a marriage license to an interracial couple out of concern for any children the couple might have. Keith Bardwell, justice of the peace in Tangipahoa Parish, says it is his experience that most interracial marriages do not last long.

His experience? I bet this guy lives nowhere near anyone from an ethnic minority. It's not his place to put experience over the rights of other people.


"I'm not a racist. I just don't believe in mixing the races that way," Bardwell told the Associated Press on Thursday. "I have piles and piles of black friends. They come to my home, I marry them, they use my bathroom. I treat them just like everyone else."
Bardwell said he asks everyone who calls about marriage if they are a mixed race couple. If they are, he does not marry them, he said.


"I'm not a racist, but...". Wow, that's a new one! Also, piles and piles? These are people, not your laundry. Also, asking them if they are a mixed race couple is just wrong.



Bardwell said he has discussed the topic with blacks and whites, along with witnessing some interracial marriages. He came to the conclusion that most of black society does not readily accept offspring of such relationships, and neither does white society, he said.

That doesn't mean that the couple cannot get married. They seem to have plenty of support for their marriage on both sides, so in case the massive generalisations are obviously false.



"There is a problem with both groups accepting a child from such a marriage," Bardwell said. "I think those children suffer and I won't help put them through it."

There are good parents and bad parents, and if the child is unlucky enough to get bad parents, then they will suffer. They won't suffer just because their parents are an interracial couple. Yes, there are morons out there who will discriminate against them, just like you're discriminating against their parents.

Jazzratt
16th October 2009, 12:32
Jesus fucking christ. I thought that, aside the single-digit IQ pond scum that post on places like scumfront, america had more or less got over this shit. I hope this overtly racist dickhead loses his job.

Adding to RA's comments on his "I'm not racist, but..." statements: saying that someone can come to your house or use your bathroom, while requiring a certain level of friendship, isn't going to have you hailed as a great friend of black people given the fact that kind of shit should be implicit when you say "friend".

Comrade Gwydion
16th October 2009, 12:54
Wel, I hope this dude is a catholic priest, so he won't be allowed to create any offspring either.

harry roberts
16th October 2009, 17:42
whenever i hear stuff like this particularly from America its quite shocking. You sometimes forget that scum like this still exist. In America is overt racism still quite prevalent? or is that just a stereotype that you get from movies and tv.
Has this case made the news because blatent racism like this is not the norm?

excuse my ignorence

Orange Juche
16th October 2009, 20:22
NEW ORLEANS – A Louisiana justice of the peace said he refused to issue a marriage license to an interracial couple out of concern for any children the couple might have.

Because, as we all know, not having a marriage contract recognized by a state institution influences one's ability to reproduce.

proudcomrade
17th October 2009, 00:16
"I'm not a racist. I just don't believe in mixing the races"I shudder to imagine what is racist by this person's definition, then. It just doesn't get much more racist by definition than "I just don't believe in mixing the races".

...and the fact that we're still even using terms like "interracial marriage" in 2009 is equally depressing.

Guerrilla22
17th October 2009, 00:43
I shudder to imagine what is racist by this person's definition, then. It just doesn't get much more racist by definition than "I just don't believe in mixing the races".

...and the fact that we're still even using terms like "interracial marriage" in 2009 is equally depressing.

I know that quote is unbelievable. I thought it was 2009.

Ol' Dirty
17th October 2009, 02:46
I'm one one confused mongrel he should be concerned about:cool:.

gorillafuck
17th October 2009, 02:48
whenever i hear stuff like this particularly from America its quite shocking. You sometimes forget that scum like this still exist. In America is overt racism still quite prevalent? or is that just a stereotype that you get from movies and tv.
Has this case made the news because blatent racism like this is not the norm?

excuse my ignorence
It's most often not so bad that people of different races can't even marry.

Die Rote Fahne
17th October 2009, 02:54
This is some serious bull shit.

If I was ever denied on the basis of race, which is much more unlikely here in Canada, I would become violent.

Le Libérer
17th October 2009, 05:57
Between this and giving embryos the right to sue after a fertility clinic labeled them wrong, Louisiana shines as the wtf state.

Louisiana is governed by Napoleonic Civil Code, which means there arent laws, but rules, and can leave interpretation of the law in the hands of the judge. It will probably be over turned at the Supreme Court level.

The Accomplice
17th October 2009, 07:17
What a shitty reason to deny a couple from their marriage license! He's even done this other interracial couples!

I hope he gets booted out of his job.

LuĂ­s Henrique
17th October 2009, 18:19
Louisiana is governed by Napoleonic Civil Code, which means there arent laws, but rules, and can leave interpretation of the law in the hands of the judge.
How that?

Practically all Western non-Anglo World is ruled by something based on the NCC, and we do have laws, not mere rules, and their interpretation by judges is, I dare say, much less lax than in Common Law systems.

Luís Henrique

Le Libérer
17th October 2009, 22:00
The legal system in Louisiana, unlike that of any other state derives from the Civil Code established by Napoleon 1804. Four years before Louisiana became a state in 1812, the former French and Spanish colony adopted a version of the Napoleonic Code. The resulting system of civil law differs from the other states common law traditions in terms of methodology. Rulings in the French influenced system derive from direct interpretation of the law, rulings in the common-law system give greater authority to legal precedent.
In theory, a judge in Louisiana decides a case based on her own interpretation of the code, not those of prior courts. In the other states, judges are supposed to make decisions based exclusively on previous rulings. But in practice, the two systems often work the same. Louisiana judges have the benefit of 200 years of case history, even if case law isn't used as the fundamental basis for their rulings. And judges in other states can stray from a legal precedent if they deem it grossly unjust.


When I skimmed over another version of this story, I had read the idiot who refused to marry the couple was a judge, when in fact he is just a justice of peace.


Since this story broke, Senator Landreiu and Governor Jindal has called for the resignation of this JP.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZ9jE0CT73o&feature=player_embedded

Misanthrope
17th October 2009, 23:13
Racism is still alive in the American south.. Sad

LuĂ­s Henrique
18th October 2009, 04:42
The legal system in Louisiana, unlike that of any other state derives from the Civil Code established by Napoleon 1804. Four years before Louisiana became a state in 1812, the former French and Spanish colony adopted a version of the Napoleonic Code. The resulting system of civil law differs from the other states common law traditions in terms of methodology. Rulings in the French influenced system derive from direct interpretation of the law, rulings in the common-law system give greater authority to legal precedent.
In theory, a judge in Louisiana decides a case based on her own interpretation of the code, not those of prior courts.
Ah, I see. Sort of they managed to get the worst of each system.

Luís Henrique

Le Libérer
18th October 2009, 18:10
Ah, I see. Sort of they managed to get the worst of each system.

Luís Henrique
Exactly. And thats why I have termed the name for Louisiana as the WTF state. :)

Budog
18th October 2009, 18:18
:huh: When I first heard about this I was shocked that something like this could still happen in America today. But, you have to remember this is in the fundamentalist Southern "Bible Belt". Many of these inbred hicks don't even realize that the Civil War is over and they lost! Well this yayhoo will get his, the U.S. Justice Department is getting involved with this as will I am sure the ACLU will. They will be all over his ass like flies on dog shit! I hope they revoke his status as a Justice of the Peace and throw his ass in prison with a bunch of African Americans...

Budog.

gorillafuck
19th October 2009, 00:45
Racism is still alive in the American south.. Sad
Racism is alive in the North, too. It's just more prominent in southern states.