Obama: "I am a NEW Democrat"....

[RadioRaheem84]

Apparently all "change" meant was a change from neo-conservatism to the "New" Democrat Policies of the old Clinton Administration.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0309/19862.html



“I am a New Democrat,” he told the New Democrat Coalition, according to two sources at the White House session.


The group is comprised of centrist Democratic members of the House, who support free trade and a muscular foreign policy but are more moderate than the conservative Blue Dog coalition.


Jeez, Clinton was the mongrel that shifted the party to the right! How was this man even considered a progressive? Does the press not even understand the word?

[Uncle Ho]

When compared to the Reagan/Bush dynasty, most leaders seem progressive.

Besides, any real progressives would be shouted down by our corporate media for being evil pinkos these days.

[proudcomrade]

He might as well admit it straight out. He has long since struck me as being the next Clinton on several matters. Good of him to quit his usual eloquent hot air and just say it outright, I guess.

[Tatarin]

There were a lot of these neo-cons, so now naturally they have to make a lot of neo-dems also. Some decade after this, these two very democratic and wildly different ideologies will combine, and you will be left with the neo-condemns. They will in turn merge the two parties into one entity called the Condemned Party of America.

I'll go to bed now.

[RadioRaheem84]

New Democrats have been around since the start of the Clinton era. They're the dominate force behind the Dems and you usually have to go through them if you want to seek power under their banner. They have all the Wall Street, big business money that was dumped on Clinton in the 90s after Clinton dumped the unions and the working class.

[Revy]

New Democrats have been around since the start of the Clinton era. They're the dominate force behind the Dems and you usually have to go through them if you want to seek power under their banner. They have all the Wall Street, big business money that was dumped on Clinton in the 90s after Clinton dumped the unions and the working class.

Yes, they emerged after the Reagan era. Republicans kept getting elected because the Democrats were seen as too liberal. So the New Democrats came along and shifted it all to the right.

[RadioRaheem84]

Actually it was because the Reagan GOP had created such a pro-business atmosphere in DC that it was impossible to win without their support. There had been so much deregulation at that point that business was king of the street. The only way to govern at that point was to compromise. New Democrats later influenced 'third way' economics which led to Tony Blair moving his party to the right too.

Listen to Bill Clinton debate Amy Goodman in this late 2000 interview. I know Goodman's heart is in the right place but she seemed totally nervous confronting a giant like Clinton. Clinton is such a great speaker that I was totally sold on most of this shtick until the question about NAFTA came up. Then I realized just how much of a huckster he really is. He kept rambling on about "these are the facts", even when he gave the same confident BS about NAFTA as he did about alleviating poverty!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2qczXNnxV5I&feature=related

Watch it. He will have you rooting for him and thinking that Goodman was beat, until he gets to NAFTA and then you realize his confidence trick.

[ls]

Tartarin summed it up stunningly well. :p

[RedSpartacus]

Nice one Tatarin :lol:

New Labour / New Democrats...same sh*t different smell