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Bitter Ashes
13th October 2009, 01:33
I'm unsure whether this is a good idea to post this or not. I know that in some places it's perfectly legal to flypost, however I'm not in one of those places and it's an arrestable, criminal offence where I am. If on that basis this thread disapears, I wouldnt be surprised, or offended.
Handing out flyers in the street is out of the question as again, it's illegal, although not criminal. If you happen to have £100 lying around then you can buy apply for a permit, which even if I did have two week's wages lurking around then it's still likely the application would be denied on the grounds of it not bieng a buisness venture.
Basicly, there's an issue in my local area (town of about 150,000) and I thought it'd be a good idea to try draw more attention to it and try see if it could help with getting people involved in a public meeting on the matter. Of course, the issue is, if I ever called such a meeting I'd expect to find a couple of men in uniform waiting for the organiser (me) and put me in a cell for the night while they start drawing up a list of charges, most of which would stick with a magistrate. Intrestingly, the SP, a rather conservative reformist group engadges in flyposting and not only seems to get away with it, but without ruffling thier "socialists in suits" appearance.
So, I guess what I'm asking is if anyone has any tips to getting this done without ending up in court. After taking one look at myself in the mirror dressed head to toe in black with a rucksack on my back and a cap pulled over my eyes I kind of got the idea that outfit may do more harm than good. I'm even wondering if it'd actualy be less suspicous if I even did it in broad daylight, but maybe that'd be too bold I dont know. Sorry for bieng a n00b. :blushing:
BobKKKindle$
13th October 2009, 09:16
Do it at night, just dress in normal but dark clothes, and preferably do it with a buddy so that whilst one person applies the paste the other can keep a look out for the police. If they do show up, dump the stuff, and separate, walking away calmly.
Anton
13th October 2009, 09:57
I'm unsure whether this is a good idea to post this or not. I know that in some places it's perfectly legal to flypost, however I'm not in one of those places and it's an arrestable, criminal offence where I am. If on that basis this thread disapears, I wouldnt be surprised, or offended.
Handing out flyers in the street is out of the question as again, it's illegal, although not criminal. If you happen to have £100 lying around then you can buy apply for a permit, which even if I did have two week's wages lurking around then it's still likely the application would be denied on the grounds of it not bieng a buisness venture.
Basicly, there's an issue in my local area (town of about 150,000) and I thought it'd be a good idea to try draw more attention to it and try see if it could help with getting people involved in a public meeting on the matter. Of course, the issue is, if I ever called such a meeting I'd expect to find a couple of men in uniform waiting for the organiser (me) and put me in a cell for the night while they start drawing up a list of charges, most of which would stick with a magistrate. Intrestingly, the SP, a rather conservative reformist group engadges in flyposting and not only seems to get away with it, but without ruffling thier "socialists in suits" appearance.
So, I guess what I'm asking is if anyone has any tips to getting this done without ending up in court. After taking one look at myself in the mirror dressed head to toe in black with a rucksack on my back and a cap pulled over my eyes I kind of got the idea that outfit may do more harm than good. I'm even wondering if it'd actualy be less suspicous if I even did it in broad daylight, but maybe that'd be too bold I dont know. Sorry for bieng a n00b. :blushing:
i'm a noob at this as well, but depending where in Yorkshire you are I may be able to give you a hand.
Holden Caulfield
13th October 2009, 14:19
what kindles said.
you will need a carried bag without holes in it and a paste brush.
Put the paste in the bag then off you go.
I would do four stokes on the wall I want to put the poster on, put the poster on the paste, then do another four ontop of the poster. That should keep it down easily.
And the SP isn't conservative
Code
13th October 2009, 19:18
What is the best paste?
CELMX
13th October 2009, 21:27
What is the best paste?
hope this helps:
wallpaper paste
look at the flyposting Guide on libcom.org/organise/flyposting-guide...just google Flyposting Guide...sorry I couldn't post a link, I only have 23 posts:(
for more information, you could look at this Flyposting Guide.:thumbup1:
Dóchas
13th October 2009, 21:52
this is pretty good
Anarchist Guide To Flyposting (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TlBEV5_tgp4)
CELMX
14th October 2009, 00:57
"this is pretty good
Anarchist Guide To Flyposting (http://www.anonym.to/?http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TlBEV5_tgp4)"
Thanks, this was pretty helpful, too...and they have british accents!:rolleyes:sorry, ignore me, i'm a idiotic american that gets excited by this kind of stuff
It seems pretty stupid to be vandalizing/spray painting during the day time though...:p
Dr Mindbender
14th October 2009, 02:02
its a good idea to have at least 2 lookouts.
Have them stand within shouting distance and covering both sides of the road to keep an eye out for pig cars.
Oh, and also be mindful of unmarked cop cars. Once while flyposting back at uni a comrade of mine got caught on the first poster and he was forced to bin the lot and tip the paste down the gutter. He wasnt arrested or anything but a whole day of preparing posters was wasted and he was pretty pissed off about it.
Holden Caulfield
14th October 2009, 09:49
its a good idea to have at least 2 lookouts.
fair enough for safety and what not but fly posting is relatively easily done. Its been done with one person before and I, erm I mean they, never had any problems.
For paste I would say just go to Wilkinsons and buy whatever they got, own brand will do the job, plus let sell little brushes there as well you can put in your paste bag
Sasha
14th October 2009, 19:42
if you want your posters to stick for ever ad some waterglass to your paste (sodium silicate is the scientific name i think) if you do that and also do some brushes over your poster after you posted it some realy hard water proof film is formed.
and if you would go out and stick posters on an nazi pub or front door you could (theoreticly and all offcourse ;)) ad grinded up tube lights, but thats an realy mean thing to do and should not be done if the person who ends up cleaning it is an normal worker.
Dr Mindbender
14th October 2009, 21:22
if you want your posters to stick for ever ad some waterglass to your paste (sodium silicate is the scientific name i think) if you do that and also do some brushes over your poster after you posted it some realy hard water proof film is formed.
and if you would go out and stick posters on an nazi pub or front door you could (theoreticly and all offcourse ;)) ad grinded up tube lights, but thats an realy mean thing to do and should not be done if the person who ends up cleaning it is an normal worker.
Flyposting over billboards is always guilt free.
The Ungovernable Farce
20th October 2009, 00:31
Basicly, there's an issue in my local area (town of about 150,000) and I thought it'd be a good idea to try draw more attention to it and try see if it could help with getting people involved in a public meeting on the matter. Of course, the issue is, if I ever called such a meeting I'd expect to find a couple of men in uniform waiting for the organiser (me) and put me in a cell for the night while they start drawing up a list of charges, most of which would stick with a magistrate. Intrestingly, the SP, a rather conservative reformist group engadges in flyposting and not only seems to get away with it, but without ruffling thier "socialists in suits" appearance.
The vital thing is that the SP's flyposters (and anyone else's) will always have a "NOT FOR FLYPOSTING" disclaimer on the bottom. This means that the people who produced the posters can clearly say if challenged that they didn't intend for them to be flyposted, and they can't be held responsible for the behaviour of any naughty people who might disobey their instructions, any more than we could get the tories fined by illegally flyposting their literature up.*
I also think you possibly might be overestimating the amount that the police are bothered by such things. They definitely don't turn up to every event that gets flyposted for (otherwise, as you say, they'd have busted the SP long ago), and even if they did, how can they say who organised it and who happened to turn up off the street?
The guide ComradeLenin mentioned is here: http://libcom.org/organise/flyposting-guide
The other top tip is to go for pedestrianised shopping areas, cos they tend to be really busy during the day, but really empty during the night. So you should be able to do your stuff pretty freely, and even if you do encounter any cops, they'll be on foot not in a car, and so considerably easier to get away from.
* If I was the kind of person who did illegal things, I might remember once going out on a flyposting mission when the person who'd made the posters forgot to put the disclaimer on them, so the flyposting team had to sit around writing "NOT TO BE FLYPOSTED" by hand on each poster before they were ready to be posted up. But of course I would never do anything illegal, so I have no such memories.
rosie
20th October 2009, 15:53
What is the best paste?
Wheat paste works really well also. You can't remove it, but if you get caught using it you can also get charged with destruction of property. Be careful, Comrades! My advice is to dress like a professional business person, suit, tie, shiny black shoes, the works. Act as if you are doing nothing wrong. And if the police confront you, make sure you remain calm and professional. No sudden movements, no fast speaking. Cops are like a wild animals. They will attack when frightened or "attacked".
Sasha
25th October 2009, 20:52
My advice is to dress like a professional business person, suit, tie, shiny black shoes, the works. Act as if you are doing nothing wrong. And if the police confront you, make sure you remain calm and professional. No sudden movements, no fast speaking.
almost 100% sound advice, i advice you to:
dress like a professional flyposting person, coveralls, reflective shirt, workshoes, the works. Act as if you are doing nothing wrong. And if the police confront you, make sure you remain calm and professional. No sudden movements, no fast speaking.
oh and if you go out like this, dont do it at night but early in the morning (7/8 ish)
fillipscorn
19th November 2009, 07:15
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ellipsis
21st November 2009, 05:23
If you happen to have £100 lying around then you can buy apply for a permit, which even if I did have two week's wages lurking
Geez I hope that you aren't working full time.
Drace
21st November 2009, 05:34
Why do you have to put "not for flyposting" on everything?
BobKKKindle$
21st November 2009, 12:54
Why do you have to put "not for flyposting" on everything?
If what you're posting up has been produced by a national organization like the SWP, it stops them getting prosecuted by the police, as they can basically say they aren't responsible for what other people do with stuff that isn't suppossed to be used for something illegal.
Patchd
21st November 2009, 15:49
Handing out flyers in the street is out of the question as again, it's illegal, although not criminal. If you happen to have £100 lying around then you can buy apply for a permit, which even if I did have two week's wages lurking around then it's still likely the application would be denied on the grounds of it not bieng a buisness venture.
You shouldn't really get any problem for handing out political material. I don't know if it depends from council to council (it probably does), but next time you get stopped for handing out political literature, tell the person to call back to their superiors and check it up, because in most places, political and religious material can be handed out without having to purchase a permit. It's usually commercial flyering which require permits.
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