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This is an extract from "Gorky Park" written by Martin Cruz Smith. It is said by an American police officer "William Kirwill" to Russias chief homicide investigator "Arkady Renko"
"Women are saints or c*nts. Commies are jews, Irish priests drink, the rest are fags. Blacks are sex crazed and great fucks. The best book ever written was The thirteenth, The Greatest of all centuries by John J. Walsh, the nuns tell you. Hoover was a queer, Hitler had a point. A district attorney will piss in your pocket and tell you its raining. Those are the facts of life and the Golden Rules; the rest is horseshit. You think I'm a pretty ignorant son of a *****, don't you?"
Classic stuff. I think it's what a lot of poeple who have power think (at least along similar lines) but don't actually say.
What do you guys think?
--IHP
Jaceau
1st May 2003, 04:39
I don't think Hitler had much of a point, just hatred.
There's a grey area between saints and ****s. Not all Irish people drink, I like homosexual people, black people aren't sex crazed, but they may, in fact, be "great fucks" for all I know. Hoover was a fucking murderer, but I don't think he was gay.
Or something, I had a point in there somewhere, and I forgot it. The rest is horseshit =D
suffianr
1st May 2003, 17:18
I think Martin Cruz Smith smokes way too much weed.
Jaceau
2nd May 2003, 02:20
Alice in Wonderland was written by that guy who smoked too much opium, and it was a great book. So yeah, what's my point? Nobody knows!
Leftist Spider
3rd May 2003, 19:49
LOL. I smoke weed :cool:, but uhhhhhh, I really think that dude is an @sshole. He doesn't exactly say what's wrong with Queers. He almost uses it as an insult. Blah!
And Hoover wasn't gay. :biggrin: Am glad he wasn't. Phewwwwwwwww. It would be a disgrace to us gays. :shocked:
Thanks for the input guys.
Jaceau: I don't know if you're serious but it's not supposed to be taken literally. I was more after what other members thought of the mindsetof the powerful.
suffianr: Probably, with a bit of reformasi He might be able to do it legally (what a multi-linguist I am!)
leftist spider: My head exploded trying to read what you mean! :)
--IHP
Leftist Spider
5th May 2003, 01:40
>leftist spider: My head exploded trying to read what you mean! :)
Ehehhehehe. :biggrin:
;)
Rastafari
13th May 2003, 18:19
I always read Hoover was gay.
Or that he skipped and jumped, he liked to press wildflowers, he put on women's clothing and hung around in bars.
Hampton
13th May 2003, 20:37
I always heard that he liked to wear women's clothes. I think it was all reinforced by reading some Panther speaches where they say that Hoover is Nixon's half sister.
canikickit
13th May 2003, 23:48
Yeah, I heard that Hoover was gay also. And that he wore women's clothing - that was in the Simpsons as well, I think.
But just because a man wears female's clothes, doens't make them gay.
I thought that quote was pretty much a non-event for me. I guess it would be effective in the middle of the book, when the scene is set and what not, but for me it didn't really mean much.
I too was under the impression that Hoover was a "queer".
cani, yes, well I suppose you'd have to be there for it. Good book if you're interested in the late Soviet era.
--IHP
Urban Rubble
26th May 2003, 07:52
I don't know if Hoover was gay but I do know he dressed in women's clothes.
The guy that quote cam from sounded way drunk. Perhaps on russian vodka ?
the SovieT
26th May 2003, 22:10
i saw taht movie...
it was pretty damn cool not to mention the sight of my beloved Soviet Union :D...
never read the book though...
Urban: Well, they were actually drinking Vodka in Moscow, but Cruz Smith makes deliberately points out that although Kirwill (the American) has been drinking a lot, he didn't have the hallamkrs of being drunk.
sovieT:You sould read it, though I'm never too keen on reading a book after I have the movie, because I find that they're too different. as well as I have an image of what the characters look like whereas when I read a book I like to create my own image.
--IHP
CruelVerdad
2nd June 2003, 04:15
People can say a lot of shit!
Just prove their twisted and sick point of view of life.
Hoover was gay, but too shy to fuck his assistant he really quite did fancy, from what i've heard, from a reliable source... ;) i've tapped his telephone lines ever since he is in office(i am ery old, mind you). And they never found out.
well, actually they did but they recruited me to infiltrate in a evil organization - since i am very good with computers -: che-lives.com
hahahahaha
:evil:
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