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AK
3rd October 2009, 09:34
Another one of my stateless society questions. I'm sorry about these. If anyone could recommend to me a text on the stateless society then I would be greatly appreciative. We've covered the whole Law Enforcement issue and the idea of workers' militias has been suggested time and time again it appears. But what would become of institutions such as Schools, Libraries, Universities/Colleges and Hospitals? These require heavy government funding and after an anti-establishment movement they would be obsolete, or would they?

yuon
3rd October 2009, 11:38
Again, I would suggest that you don't need a state, or the sort of system that requires that sort of top-down structure.

I'll start with the easiest of the institutions you mentioned, and then move on to the "harder" ones.

So, Libraries. Without the profit motive, or copyright, there is nothing stopping libraries from printing books "on-demand" for people. And, once they have a stock, there isn't a big "cost" in maintaining that stock. Big deal, libraries don't need resources, except to staff them (and you don't need as many staff if you don't have to worry about stopping people stealing books, or fining people for bringing them back late), and to get new items. Not costly.

Schools are similar to libraries except that they need equipment for certain subjects, and teachers. They can just put in a request for the equipment, and the teachers are workers just like the people who make the equipment, and the workers who deliver it to the school.

Hospitals and Universities are similar again. The equipment is more specialised than your average high school, but not overly so. Just ask for it, it will be sent on over.

You see, in a communist society, you don't have to worry about the cost of things.

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As for texts, have a look at The Conquest of Bread (http://dwardmac.pitzer.edu/Anarchist_Archives/kropotkin/conquest/toc.html) by Kropotkin.

I'm sure that there are plenty of similar writings on how things might operate. Remember, though, we aren't aiming to make blueprints that must be followed. We are merely suggesting ideas, that will be used only if they suit the conditions. If the "material environment" isn't good, well, the people will use a different idea. :thumbup1::cool:

AK
3rd October 2009, 11:49
I see, so in communist society everything is integrated? Just ask and you will recieve? Is this what would make such a society successful?

yuon
3rd October 2009, 12:32
I see, so in communist society everything is integrated? Just ask and you will recieve? Is this what would make such a society successful?

In a communist system that's the case. That's what it's all about.

AK
3rd October 2009, 13:03
Lol I can't believe I went a few months without figuring that part out.

yuon
3rd October 2009, 13:17
From each according to their ability, to each according to their need.

That's what most communists would say would be the founding economic principle of communism.

Now me, I don't call myself a communist. I have real problems with how that principle can be interpreted. But, assuming that it doesn't mean that you have to work 10 hour days simply because you can (which I don't think most people would argue it does), it's probably fine. :thumbup1:

Don't worry about the learning process, and don't worry about asking questions.

AK
3rd October 2009, 13:21
Thanks anyway :lol: