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Reuben
2nd October 2009, 10:38
This is an article I recently posted up on The Third Estate (http://thethirdestate.net/).

Well apparently September is fashion season in London. This is probably not common knowledge in the left blogosphere. In fact, as somebody who invariably dresses in bad leather jackets and beanies, catwalk events barely registered on my radar until the shitstorm kicked up a few years ago about so-called ’size zero’ models. It was a strange moment in time, when – on the surface – the Daily Mail seemed to be saying things that feminists had always said. At the time I was skeptical about the simplistic and depoliticised manner in which images of skinny women were connected to anorexic behaviour. Equally I was instinctively uncomfortable with the demands made that city councils – such as London or Milan – should issue ordnances regulating the size and shape of women who appeared in public.


Today the rhetoric is still being regurgitated, if in a less hysterical manner. This is in part because the fashion industry has moved on. This year the media have been congratulating some designers for using models who are a little less thin. Mark Fast, in particular, has won attention (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/fashion/london-fashion-week/6223994/London-Fashion-Week-may-not-be-ready-but-women-love-a-curvy-model.html) for his apparently bold decision to use a size 14 model. Yet implicit in such praise has been the same, actually quite unwarranted, vitriol towards skinny women that has been pedalled since the size zero controversy first blew up.


As the Telegraph’s Daniella Agnelli put it in her praise for Fast’s decision, “Mark’s vision is of a more womanly woman.” (My emphasis). Elsewhere the shift has been repeatedly described in terms of models beginning to look more like “real women” (http://www.cbc.ca/consumer/story/2009/09/22/catwalk-larger-models-mark-fast.html). In this sense the attacks on skinny or size zero celebrities are not all that different from more traditional, and more explicitly sexist commentary about women’s appearances. Skinny women are deemed not only to be aesthetically unappealing but to stand outside the boundaries of true womanhood. When a woman becomes too thin she is seen to negate her human and feminine essence.


Perhaps the chief red herring in all of this is the appeal to nature. Skinny celebrities are constantly contrasted with those of a more “natural” appearance. You only have to consider it for a minute to realise that this line of thinking is utter nonsense. If I asked you to draw a picture of what a woman looked like “naturally” you would not be able to. This is because throughout human history the shape and appearance of both male and female bodies has been mediated by culture and by social circumstances. It has varied by place and time. As such, to deliniate a certain range of body shapes – usually around sizes 12-18 – as natural, and all others as a perversion of nature, is somewhat arbitrary.


Meanwhile it remains completely acceptable to be utterly vitriolic about the appearance of skinny women. Thus the likes of Paris Hilton and Victoria Beckham face constant rants about how scrawny they are. Part of the logic behind such attacks is that such women promote anorexia and bulemia. I remember, when the shitstorm about skinny celebrities was in full swing, seeing an article in a women’s magazine by a woman who claimed that a particular femal celebrity – and indeed a particular picture of her – had “caused” her daughter’s anorexia. We recently have been treated to the mirror image of such arguments with claims that fat celebrities encourage obesity (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/8123741.stm).


Behind both of the above a frankly disturbing approach to women’s bodies. Women may be fat or thin, famous or unseen. But the point is surely that women’s bodies are NOT a public utility. They should not be expected to shape their bodies in such a way as to promote healthy eating or positive body images or to meet any other public interest criterion. If many women are risking their health and well being to copy ultra-skinny filmstars this raises questions that are far broader than ‘what can we do about air brushing’ or ‘how can we change the shape of female celebrities’. Rather we should be asking about the way such images are recieved and responded to, rather than simply taking this as a given. We should be asking about why our culture is so top down, why millions want to ape a a tiny number of people, and why men and women apparently respond differently to certain cultural signals – why for example a picture of some muscular male celebrity doesn’t drive millions of men to excessive gym use. This, of course, would mean talking about power, politics and patriarchy, rather than simply BMIs and waist measurements.

yuon
2nd October 2009, 11:38
I'm pretty sure I understand the point you are trying to make here. However, let me say, briefly, what I think it is, and then move on.

You are arguing that we should reject attempts by the media (and others) to set a "normal" body shape (or weight). And that it is bullshit for the media to condemn certain celebrities for being "too skinny". And it's also bullshit for this designer to get lots of press for using a size 14 model.

Or something.

Really, I totally agree with the point you make in the last paragraph. "[W]hy [do] millions want to ape a a [sic] tiny number of people"?

May I just make a small suggestion, start out your article explaining, briefly, what the point is? So that people understand what you are arguing throughout the piece. It would make it stronger, me thinks.

Invincible Summer
2nd October 2009, 18:14
This is slightly off-topic, but I find there's also reverse-discrimination against women who are "size zero." My girlfriend is naturally a size zero (some clothes she is double zero) - she doesn't try to diet (she actually makes great pie and cheesecake) and she isn't an exercise freak. People always criticize skinny women for being "unhealthy role models," but some women just can't help it.

Le Libérer
2nd October 2009, 18:35
They say the average American woman is a size 16. A woman's beauty should not be judged by her size or appearance, I find most women beautiful in spite of societal norms. Most pubescent females in this country find it very hard to internalize what the media has forced on them as what is normal. They suffer from the effects in many degrees from low self esteem to eating disorders.

IMO, the size 14 model featured in this article is hotter than the size 0 models that are following her on the cat walk.

LuĂ­s Henrique
2nd October 2009, 19:04
I once saw a series of drawings about women's sizes and self-perceived sizes.

It showed a normal sized woman with the caption "how she actually is". Then a slightly chubbier version of the same woman, with the caption "how she thinks she is". Then a much slimmier woman, with the caption "how she thinks men would like her to be", and finally a woman, slightly chubbier than the second one, with the caption "how men actually would like her to be".

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I would agree that the actual problem is that so many women are worried about their external appearance, but not with the idea that skinny women are victims of social discrimination. The opposite seems to be true: fat women (and to a lesser extent, men) are discriminated and even ridiculed for their appearance. And it seems more than likely that the promotion of an underweight "beauty standard" - which includes the selective procedures for fashion models spontaneously favoured by the fashion industry - reinforces this discrimination.

Luís Henrique

Le Libérer
2nd October 2009, 22:37
I once saw a series of drawings about women's sizes and self-perceived sizes.

It showed a normal sized woman with the caption "how she actually is". Then a slightly chubbier version of the same woman, with the caption "how she thinks she is". Then a much slimmier woman, with the caption "how she thinks men would like her to be", and finally a woman, slightly chubbier than the second one, with the caption "how men actually would like her to be".

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I would agree that the actual problem is that so many women are worried about their external appearance, but not with the idea that skinny women are victims of social discrimination. The opposite seems to be true: fat women (and to a lesser extent, men) are discriminated and even ridiculed for their appearance. And it seems more than likely that the promotion of an underweight "beauty standard" - which includes the selective procedures for fashion models spontaneously favoured by the fashion industry - reinforces this discrimination.

Luís Henrique
I agree. for instance, those who suffere from anerexia perceived themselves to be fat, even when they are malnutrious. How much of these new founded disorders have to do with the media? And the pressures society puts on girls to be perfect?

Lyev
2nd October 2009, 22:58
There does seem to be a lot of pressure in the vacuous fashion industry where woman, and men to an extent, feel somewhat obliged to conform to societies norms. What maybe fuels this is those dreadful 'OK!' and 'Hello' magazines; I sometimes see, on the covers, celebrities that have 'been caught out' looking a bit on the tubby side at the beach or something. Those sort of magazines are kinda like pipes through which ideas of 'normality' are pumped into the reader, if you get my drift.

MilitantAnarchist
2nd October 2009, 23:26
Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder...
Unfortunatly the media seems to dictate what people see as beautiful, it isnt just skinny models, its the whole 'plastic surgery makes you a better person' thing to.

Revy
2nd October 2009, 23:30
I agree. for instance, those who suffere from anerexia perceived themselves to be fat, even when they are malnutrious. How much of these new founded disorders have to do with the media? And the pressures society puts on girls to be perfect?

Remember that being considered "too skinny" is not a diagnosis of anorexia.

Furthermore, someone who is skinny enough to be considered anorexic by others (falsely) can be driven to obesity with the pressure to eat.

I am speaking from experience, though I am not a woman.

brigadista
3rd October 2009, 00:00
those "size 14 models" look pretty skinny to me.. its all BS